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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26196127 - 09/18/19 05:07 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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The prepoured agar plates that I bought said once spores are added to then put it in the dark. Is this still current procedure? I know that older info told you to put jars in the dark but that has been debunked. Is it better to keep them in the dark or on a shelf out in the open?
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Old info. Don't trip on light but don't put them in direct sun light
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#26196861 - 09/19/19 05:53 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sankhara said: Well i have a question... A very noob question but, what the hell, i didnt find almost anything about it.
How does mycelium look to you when its germinating on agar?
....... I know time will tell, but i am just curious!
Well... i think it aint looking pretty, am i right?

It cant be cobweb, its been like 4 days to get this kind of growth
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GypsyCurse said: You dicked with black kow at all?
Yeah, I need to give it another try when I am settled down a little more on what I'm growing. BK really takes advantage of anything wrong with your spawn, so when I did fuck around with it I ended up going green well before the first flush, the box I did side-by-side with just coir went 2.5 flushes before going green. I don't know how the green got in, but it came from spawn, that's for sure.
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Edmunter said: Good to know im not alone!!!!
8 varieties - 4 species 4 varieties on grains - 2 species 2 varieties on dowels - 2 species 2 grows on chips - 2 varies - 2 species 1 variety on straw - 1 species
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verum subsequentis said: I have.... quite a few projects going too
Oh, I'm sure there's many of us with this problem! I didn't even mention the other dozen or so plates that I have in my fridge that I need to do something with. This life is real hard ya'll. The struggle is real.
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ShaperDreaming said:
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GypsyCurse said: You dicked with black kow at all?
Yeah, I need to give it another try when I am settled down a little more on what I'm growing. BK really takes advantage of anything wrong with your spawn, so when I did fuck around with it I ended up going green well before the first flush, the box I did side-by-side with just coir went 2.5 flushes before going green. I don't know how the green got in, but it came from spawn, that's for sure.
If anything, Black kow is more forgiving. What your saying is based on one use, and its just not true. You didn't even show pics of your experiment, when you posted your comments in my thread,(kinda like, pics or it didnt happen)lol. I'm done trying to convince people to try it.... But I will continue to defend its validity in the hobby!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26197300 - 09/19/19 11:36 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well was the black kow pasteurized? If not you can't fully blame your spawn. I know some folk were saying before that they were using it straight out of the bag but that is playing with fire in my opinion.
I used bk many hears ago and in my experience with it, it had to be pasteurized.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26197312 - 09/19/19 11:42 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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it's poop. Pasteurize it. If you can tho, use fresh shit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26197329 - 09/19/19 11:56 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whats the fun in that? If everyone does everything by the book then they wouldnt have something to blame their failures on!lol. I know I use it at my own risk. It's worked well for me!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26197367 - 09/19/19 12:16 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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BigSurMoon said: If anything, Black kow is more forgiving. What your saying is based on one use, and its just not true. You didn't even show pics of your experiment, when you posted your comments in my thread,(kinda like, pics or it didnt happen)lol. I'm done trying to convince people to try it.... But I will continue to defend its validity in the hobby!
I 100% posted pictures?
a few days in:
  
Black Kow was moving faster and looking better at this point.
One week later side by side:
 
Close up of the BK:

Yeah, it was one experiment. It went bad fast, the coir tub ended up going for 2.5 flushes, harvested a bit under 3oz from it. BK: 0oz0g Coir: 2oz 18g
I said I need to try it again when I have spare time to fuck around. I also posted in your thread that it was my spawn that contaminated it What else you want from me? I was asked my opinion and my first statement was to say I don't have as much experience as I would like to make a definitive statement.
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Camera93
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What else you want from me?
1st born male child might suffice
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26197377 - 09/19/19 12:20 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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BigSurMoon
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ShaperDreaming said:
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BigSurMoon said: If anything, Black kow is more forgiving. What your saying is based on one use, and its just not true. You didn't even show pics of your experiment, when you posted your comments in my thread,(kinda like, pics or it didnt happen)lol. I'm done trying to convince people to try it.... But I will continue to defend its validity in the hobby!
I 100% posted pictures?
a few days in:
  
Black Kow was moving faster and looking better at this point.
One week later side by side:
 
Close up of the BK:

Yeah, it was one experiment. It went bad fast, the coir tub ended up going for 2.5 flushes, harvested a bit under 3oz from it. BK: 0oz0g Coir: 2oz 18g
I said I need to try it again when I have spare time to fuck around. I also posted in your thread that it was my spawn that contaminated it What else you want from me? I was asked my opinion and my first statement was to say I don't have as much experience as I would like to make a definitive statement.
I'm calling it like I see it. You said something that's not true, misinformation if you will. And you are saying you got 3 dry oz from two flushes with no pics. Not attacking you as a person. Just saying that the information your giving is wrong. If you got such good results with the coir tub then why not post the pre harvest pics?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26197418 - 09/19/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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BigSurMoon said: I'm calling it like I see it. You said something that's not true, misinformation if you will. And you are saying you got 3 dry oz from two flushes with no pics. Not attacking you as a person. Just saying that the information your giving is wrong. If you got such good results with the coir tub then why not post the pre harvest pics?
That's right, I'm saying exactly how my experiment went and showing pictures. None of what I stated is misinformation, it's just different from your experience. Once I tossed the BK box in this experiment I stopped taking pictures. I don't take pictures of most of what I'm doing anymore because it's extra effort and I'm usually running a lot of shit at the same time and don't need to draw attention to what I do.
And yeah, I don't see why 3 oz is outrageous, since it was significantly less than I was expecting. That's a 16qt bin with 5qt of spawn in there. That's about 740 wet grams of mushrooms, which is really low for 2 flushes worth of mushrooms coming from 5qt of spawn. My average is around 300g wet per qt on the first flushs. So rather than get the 3000 wet grams I expected from that box, I got about a quarter of that.
BK Bin: trich pre-first flush Coir Bin: trich mid-third flush
That simple
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I thought they were shoboxes, my bad, what you told gypsy curse was wrong. Its that simple.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26197454 - 09/19/19 01:27 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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BigSurMoon said: I thought they were shoboxes, my bad, what you told gypsy curse was wrong. Its that simple.
But others have said similar
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BigSurMoon said: Keep us posted on the coir tub. I'm betting it will contaminate also.
Goddamn, yup. Got two decent flushes out of it then a small pile of green at the start of the third flush. I'm going to cut it out and let it finish...
Fuck, I haven't had a tub go green in a long time! Damn, it usually happens earlier (like on grains).
Still, end results:
- Coir: 2.5 Flushes (3oz dried total, way lower than expected)
- BK: 0 Flushes (0oz dry)
I'm retracting my statements about it being trich tek. However, if you have any hidden contams they will exploit the BK substrate significantly faster than coir.
I've tried BK 4-5 times withoit much luck except with about a 40/60 mix with coir on tamps. Really want it to work I just think the BK in my region isn't very good - lots of dirt and muddy. It's a trich farm mostly for me. Glad it works for a lot of you. I pasteurize as well.
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FishLevelMidnight said: I have been doing 2 qt coir, 1 qt verm and 1 qt black kow with a pinch of gypsum and it has been doing well. I pasteurize this for 2 hours at 150 in an oven.
I think the trick with BK is to mix it with coir or at least verm- there is too much seasonal and geographic variety in the composition for everyone to use "straight from the bag"
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Nobler Hino said: I totally agree. Pasteurize that shit, it still makes it convenient for growers to find poo. I feel more comfortable hitting up Lowe's instead of calling up a farm and asking for poo.
I know this has potential to work without pasteurizing, but so does wet coir. I still make sure to bucket the coir before hand just to be sure.
I'd like to point out that if your doing well with bk straight out the bag, that points to solid sterile work and clean spawn.
Not my conversation really but I have been following that thread and am excited myself to try it eventually, and I don't think anyone is trying to steer people away from it or put some kinda less then ideal rep to it. It's just what others are experiencing with the product
sounds like depending on location, straight from bag (whats the point if not..i know) is a crap shoot if there is any flaw in sterile tek leading to spawning. And a few posts prior in this very thread we have cultivators saying IME it needed to be pasteurized
how can she be wrong in relaying her experience to someone who asked her? would it have helped if she snuck a IME* in there 
Have you noticed any significant difference between pasteurizing it vs not?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26197471 - 09/19/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I jst like walking around my house hacking from hot dabs and yelling "Black Kow!" in between convultions.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion *DELETED* [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26197474 - 09/19/19 01:41 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by jbgtaa
Reason for deletion: just doesnt matter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26197482 - 09/19/19 01:44 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hopefully the neighbors don't hear 😆
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion *DELETED* [Re: jbgtaa]
#26197496 - 09/19/19 01:54 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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jbgtaa said: Reason for deletion: just doesnt matter
Yup I agree! Thanks bb, I see you.
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