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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #26147612 - 08/22/19 09:10 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah you killed the myc with heat. Grain jars should be room temp, anything above 110 can kill mycelium..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bph]
    #26147664 - 08/22/19 09:35 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Quirkmeister92 said:
So I PCd 3 bags of Milo yesterday and 2 if not 3 didn't seal up properly. Poofed up or wrinkled and let air through.:facepalm:




I've been thinking of an impulse sealer




So, I've been experimenting with Bag Clamps with... mixed success. It seems like about 50% of the bags inflate and flop around in there? The clamps (almost always) stay on, but ... I can't seem to figure out how to make them fucking not inflate (unless the PC is jam packed full of bags).

Any tips?

Quote:

Bph said:
Do you guys take clones of clones of clones? Is it wise to use your fruiting chamber as a way to isolate genetics? Just keep cloning for the phenotype you most desire?



I believe that's how some people do it. I think that it depends on what your aim is. If you do it this way you will have to take it to spore at some point to ensure that it actually creates fruits in the phenos you've been picking for. Like, APE is a good example of this: the spores from APEs tend to not produce true APEs in future runs, but clones will. If you just want to clone into clones into clones for yourself (or if you share a wedge with others) then this will work. If you aim is to store spores of it that will re-grow, then you'll have to take spore prints and keep growing out from spores hunting further for the phenos you want until the mushroom produces spores that will reproduce the results you want.

Hope that made sense, lol.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #26147818 - 08/22/19 11:12 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I might have to invest in them. I can always use my impulse for those nice mylar bags that you can't see through. Would be nice for discreet transportation.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #26149475 - 08/23/19 12:10 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

So I just inoculated a pint of Milo with a beautiful BHT culture and then accidentally inoculated the same jar with a Shiitake culture.:facepalm:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #26149478 - 08/23/19 12:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Anything in these that would be detrimental? Also, suggestions on how much to use per ounce / liter





And I'm just messing around with a couple cakes, so don't get all preachy on me for experimenting


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: vinnie boombotz]
    #26149764 - 08/23/19 03:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Is one of the ingredients asparagus


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26149800 - 08/23/19 04:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Is one of the ingredients asparagus



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26149824 - 08/23/19 04:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Mr bungle :manofapproval:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26149827 - 08/23/19 04:44 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Is one of the ingredients asparagus



Astragalus



Hahahahaha sorry but I thought it was funny.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26149830 - 08/23/19 04:45 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Both plants at least lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26149857 - 08/23/19 05:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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gizmo1 said:
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Randalf the Grey said:
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gizmo1 said:
Is one of the ingredients asparagus



Astragalus



Hahahahaha sorry but I thought it was funny.




Oh,I see. A human joke. I've heard of those, who said I haven't...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26150052 - 08/23/19 07:31 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Randalf the Grey said:
Quote:

gizmo1 said:
Quote:

Randalf the Grey said:
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gizmo1 said:
Is one of the ingredients asparagus



Astragalus



Hahahahaha sorry but I thought it was funny.




Oh,I see. A human joke. I've heard of those, who said I haven't...
Hahaha
I never figured out that whole human interaction thing.



Oh yea because you're a Grey. :thumbup:
What planet do the Greys journey from?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #26150117 - 08/23/19 08:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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FishLevelMidnight said:
Quote:

Quirkmeister92 said:
So I PCd 3 bags of Milo yesterday and 2 if not 3 didn't seal up properly. Poofed up or wrinkled and let air through.:facepalm:




I've been thinking of an impulse sealer




So, I've been experimenting with Bag Clamps with... mixed success. It seems like about 50% of the bags inflate and flop around in there? The clamps (almost always) stay on, but ... I can't seem to figure out how to make them fucking not inflate (unless the PC is jam packed full of bags).

Any tips?

Quote:

Bph said:
Do you guys take clones of clones of clones? Is it wise to use your fruiting chamber as a way to isolate genetics? Just keep cloning for the phenotype you most desire?



I believe that's how some people do it. I think that it depends on what your aim is. If you do it this way you will have to take it to spore at some point to ensure that it actually creates fruits in the phenos you've been picking for. Like, APE is a good example of this: the spores from APEs tend to not produce true APEs in future runs, but clones will. If you just want to clone into clones into clones for yourself (or if you share a wedge with others) then this will work. If you aim is to store spores of it that will re-grow, then you'll have to take spore prints and keep growing out from spores hunting further for the phenos you want until the mushroom produces spores that will reproduce the results you want.

Hope that made sense, lol.





That made perfect sense. For me that's a yes. I'm nowhere near creating a strain or anything lol. A good culture is all I'm after.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26150350 - 08/24/19 02:53 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Edmunter said:



How long before harvest?



How long have they been in there, you can go up 9 months, heard anyway, never tried.



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Edmunter said:



How long before harvest?



How long have they been in there, you can go up 9 months, heard anyway, never tried.



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Crackatoa said:
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Edmunter said:



How long before harvest?



How long have they been in there, you can go up 9 months, heard anyway, never tried.



Quote:

Crackatoa said:
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Edmunter said:



How long before harvest?



How long have they been in there, you can go up 9 months, heard anyway, never tried.



Quote:

Crackatoa said:
Quote:

Edmunter said:



How long before harvest?



How long have they been in there, you can go up 9 months, heard anyway, never tried.



Quote:

Crackatoa said:
Quote:

Edmunter said:



How long before harvest?



How long have they been in there, you can go up 9 months, heard anyway, never tried.



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When did you make that jar? I picked mine at 3months. Could of let them go longer but I wanted frootz




These are under 3 months alt#7.  How would u spawn the leftovers?  Do they grow in monos?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26150708 - 08/24/19 10:49 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Edmunter

Lots of good info here
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22527453

I've only fruited in shallow pans in GH, not sure how a mono would go.  They like lots of water.  I took about half the sclerotia out, the bigger ones, and left the smaller ones in the sub.  The stones got really big in the pan and grew up through the surface.  Check out that thread though, lots of experienced growers in there, more specific info.

Here's some Galindoi I've been too busy to mess with.  Probably try to fruit this fall/winter.  Stones are a pain in the ass to clean lol



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SunnyDayze]
    #26150934 - 08/24/19 02:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Trying to understand the best way to describe generations of agar to agar transfers when starting from spores.

If I go spores -> agar -> agar, am I at T1 or T2?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bongoman]
    #26150942 - 08/24/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Whichever you prefer just stick with your convention


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bongoman]
    #26150943 - 08/24/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

T1. Generations occur when spores mate
It really depends on what the variable t stands for.

Some people use it to signify transfers, others use it to signify generations


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bongoman]
    #26150992 - 08/24/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Trying to understand the best way to describe generations of agar to agar transfers when starting from spores.

If I go spores -> agar -> agar, am I at T1 or T2?



I think of germ plates as the origin or T0

Generations would be the next spores, they're usually noted with F1 F2 etc. Or just Gen X in my care.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #26151129 - 08/24/19 05:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Quick question. How forgiving is pasteurized coir? I've had my stack of jars covered in fool for about a week now. Should I just pasteurize again for good measure?


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