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MLPismyOPSEC
That One Ponyfucker


Registered: 11/13/18
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Quirkmeister92 said: We should be recycling the plastic after disposing the organics.
Of course we should, but polystyrene (petris) aren't very easily recycled by most. I'm in the suburbs and my recycling bin won't accept it, and actually i can't quickly find a center in my entire county that will. I'm fortunate enough that i do have curbside yard waste pickup, so i can toss my spend substrate in with my lawn clippings, roll the bag up, and Bob's your uncle.
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TheOtherOtherBarry said: Maybe I’m just paranoid, ok I’m definitely paranoid, but I’m not sending anything like that out with the garbage.
Definitely paranoid. If you bag up your petris in a shopping bag/garbage bag like the rest of your trash, no one will be the wiser.
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TheOtherOtherBarry
Noob
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#26128717 - 08/09/19 03:07 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: What are you doing with it instead? Hoarding it?
Agar goes into the back yard, any kind of burnables get burned. I haven’t been doing this long enough to really produce much waste yet.
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Funky Monkey
Human Suppository



Registered: 05/14/19
Posts: 1,099
Loc: In your MOM's poop shoot
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TheOtherOtherBarry said: Agar goes into the back yard, any kind of burnables get burned.
I'm sure there are more environmentally friendly ways to go, no?
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TheOtherOtherBarry
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26128868 - 08/09/19 05:57 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe, and I’m open to suggestions. If I lived somewhere with public dumpsters I’d just go drop bags off there but where I’m at it’s all house pickup and I don’t feel comfortable putting a bunch of cultivation stuff in the garbage can out front. I’m reusing as much as I can but any kind of paper waste is going in with the leaves, limbs, and other burnables from the yard. In my area you can’t really have someone come pick up your yard trimmings and stuff so everyone just burns it. I’ve got a bag I’ve been putting gloves and other plastics in that I’ll probably go stick in a can at a gas station or something soon.
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mushboy
modboy



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Dude just throw the shit out. No one cares about your trash.
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Yesum
Furry as Fuc



Registered: 11/05/12
Posts: 13,124
Loc: Central Part of Town
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#26128893 - 08/09/19 06:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Dude just throw the shit out. No one cares about your trash.

I just finger out the agar and throw the plastic into the garbage now that I'm in a more populated area.
Stare that's an excellent idea the way your disposing of your substrate material into dog food bags. Which is basically mylar with a paper coating on it.
I like it
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Funky Monkey
Human Suppository



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum]
#26128902 - 08/09/19 06:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am team trash can too.
Woot-WOOT!
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Camera93
We got dicks like Jesus



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26128928 - 08/09/19 06:42 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Funky Monkey said: I am team trash can too.
Woot-WOOT!
Im one of several apartments, mine goes in the big can with everyone elses trash as well
-------------------- All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I’m fine. Whatever you decide won’t really impact our survival Close your eyes, and do the best that you can
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TheOtherOtherBarry
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26128939 - 08/09/19 06:50 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry y’all I know I’m being silly. Old paranoia can be hard to kill at times, I probably smoke too much herb, might have to back off a bit. Thanks for the reality check.
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Munchauzen


Registered: 06/22/11
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The only people looking through trash are homeless people, and they are looking for either food or receipts (so they can steal an item and return it with a receipt for cash).
even if a regular person did find cult trash, I can't imagine they would have any clue what its for. agar? probably think thats jello. moldy jello. grains? pet food. spent substrate? dirt. actual mushrooms? poisonous.
mush cult is soooo far off the radar for normal people, they never have thoughts anywhere close to anything we do.
kind of an aside, both my parents have seen my 100 qt SAB. I told them I made it in college to spray glue inside of @ my art studio. I legit built models at the time and we got tons of rain, so I just said made the "gluebox" so I could work inside and not disturb my classmates. I keep it around my apartment now and just use it as a normal storage tote when its not being used as a SAB.
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#26128961 - 08/09/19 07:09 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only way I'd think anyone would find cult trash to be suspicious is if you are driving around illegally dumping the items.
..or tossing used gloves/syringes in a gas station trashcan. That equals sketch as f in my book.
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TheOtherOtherBarry
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26128966 - 08/09/19 07:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushboy said: The only way I'd think anyone would find cult trash to be sketchy is if you are driving around illegally dumping the items.
Good point. Considering that I won’t be selling any of my mushrooms the chance of police going through my garbage is pretty damn small, I just live in a place where they like to throw the book at people for even just a bit of cannabis, so someone cultivating mushrooms even for personal use would likely be put away for quite a while. My first ever dealer back in the day wouldn’t even drop his garbage bags in a dumpster without first splitting the bag open with a knife. “Now it’s everybody’s,” he’d happily say as he dumped the bags out. I guess his paranoia rubbed off and stuck with me, though I’ve never been quite that bad.
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Funky Monkey
Human Suppository



Registered: 05/14/19
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#26129021 - 08/09/19 07:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: mush cult is soooo far off the radar for normal people, they never have thoughts anywhere close to anything we do.
I rest easy with this knowledge too. I LOVED mush before I got into cult, and I would have had ZERO idea what I was seeing if you showed me a pile of all of the supplies it takes to get from spore to harvest unless I saw the physical shrooms growing out of it...
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Bumholio
What's the craic



Registered: 07/23/18
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Loc: Shroomsville
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TheOtherOtherBarry said:
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Quirkmeister92 said: What are you doing with it instead? Hoarding it?
Agar goes into the back yard, any kind of burnables get burned. I haven’t been doing this long enough to really produce much waste yet.
Shit dude, I was just joking. Throw them out. If you're worried put them in someone else's bin
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filthyknees
no coincidence


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bumholio]
#26129245 - 08/09/19 11:51 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Got my trash can and my hot trash can. Fire in the back yard for the cardboard.
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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Bra
grow panaeolus, it's easy

Registered: 07/12/19
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
#26129281 - 08/10/19 01:55 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you so much.
Nice day
Edited by Bra (09/22/21 06:51 PM)
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Ferather
Mycological



Registered: 03/19/15
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bra]
#26129374 - 08/10/19 06:10 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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It would appear the cellulases (or array) produced by Cubensis are not as effective as those produced by Lignicolous mycelium. The more complex and complete the cellulose, the less likely Cubensis will decay it, it must be less complex.
The cellulose in dung (up to 40%), will mostly be pre-decayed and easily accessible.
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Cubensis does not seem to decay lignin, in any form, however it does decay and convert, tea phenols.

Links: Lignin | Phenol | White rot fungi
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On WL-Tek, Oysters only need about 2-4% spawn, as they can fully decay cellulose with their own array of enzymes. Cubensis will still need much more spawn on 'complex' cellulose, due to lack of decay ability.
I also found that Cubensis, like Oysters, utilize the added nutrients in WL-Tek.
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Best results with paper, was when it was boiled for 1 hour, then reduced.

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Note: Lignicolous mycelium can germinate on lignin and other phenols, this includes molds.
https://www.maximumyield.com/the-chemistry-of-coco-coir/2/2678 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid-free_paper
Edited by Ferather (08/10/19 06:35 AM)
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Failboat
Fuck Up

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 Sketchy McKenna jar
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Ferather
Mycological



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#26130680 - 08/11/19 07:12 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Continuation from my previous post (here), for educational purposes.
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To germinate Cubensis on acid free paper, I had to add essential nutrients (WL-Tek), and sucrose (soluble sugar).
A wooden toothpick was cut down, and cooked in 10% sucrose water. Once flamed over, spores where collected on the tip. The spore peg was then placed into WL-Tek (general recipe), additional sucrose water was added after day 3.
Without the sucrose, the Cubensis would not be able to produce enzymes and new cells.

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As mentioned previously, lignicolous mycelium can germinate on soluble phenols, such as lignin, like the sucrose above. Any material that contains acidic phenols, will have a chance to germinate and support lignicolous growth.
Older wood will have decayed partly (acidic phenols), additionally the phenols will have oxidized.
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For experimental purposes, the Cubensis peg was placed into T-Gel, with added MG and sucrose. The plate fully colonized, and attempted to fruit (reaction to low sucrose and nutrients).


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A wedge was transferred to T-Gel, plain (just tea), which produced thick growth.


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After the above plate colonized, a wedge was transferred to brown rice.


It produced actives, seen as bruising when mixed.
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tryptkaloids
Learner



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#26130973 - 08/11/19 11:36 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said:
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tryptkaloids said: If you can help me get a decent flush off an unmodded tub im open to advice, but ever since I drilled holes in my tubs i got bigger, more full flushes
   
Showing me a picture of a full tub that clearly wants more air isn't going to tell me how or convince me I can do that in my environment.... It's so much easier to dial in poly and my mushrooms look much happier.. My modded tub full of yeast put out more than my unmodded tub that was much cleaner.
To each their own.
It makes me depressed how much the people in this hobby bag up living thungs and send them to the landfill.... There, organic matter releases methane instead of carbon... That shit is horrible for the environment. Compost what you can people.
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