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Yesum
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#26123704 - 08/06/19 06:38 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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No it grows on the tip of the toothpick making it so you dont have to use a knife to cut out a wedge and make a transfer. Just transfer with the toothpick
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum] 1
#26123738 - 08/06/19 07:24 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yesum said: No it grows on the tip of the toothpick making it so you dont have to use a knife to cut out a wedge and make a transfer. Just transfer with the toothpick
Exactly. That is provided you are using a mini round or something similar with taller sides than a standard agar dish (like the ones I use) to accommodate the piece of wood sticking out of your agar while still being closed.
It is a cool idea if you are going to go that route because you can just toss one in pre-PC and you cut a transfer step or two depending on how you look at it.
However, if you are looking to do a lot of agar work though it is best to just go ahead and get a temp gun for $15 on Amazon so you can take the guesswork out of getting perfect pours every time with the standard agar plates, as they are much easier/convenient to work with IMO than pasty plates once you have the gun. The benefits of using standard agar dishes are many.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26123750 - 08/06/19 07:40 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never used a temp gun. A little experience is all you really need.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
#26124098 - 08/06/19 12:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the bottle is cool enough to hold and still liquid, you're good to pour. I just leave it in the sab and feel it now and then till it's ready.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#26124112 - 08/06/19 12:35 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: Never used a temp gun. A little experience is all you really need. 
For sure broskie. This is true, but for the beginner, this will bridge the gap and they will have perfect pours from the first pour with little to no condensation problems.
It got me into doing much more confident/smooth agar work, so the end certainly justified the means/purchase.
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LtLurker said:
If the bottle is cool enough to hold and still liquid, you're good to pour. I just leave it in the sab and feel it now and then till it's ready.
I don't know about others, but I have a high heat/pain tolerance apparently and this cheap tool solved the issues I ran into in the beginning.
I highly recommend it to noobs with a measly 15 bucks to spare.
Get that agar work humming like a pro from pour one! 
Worth it IMO!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26124115 - 08/06/19 12:38 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I pour when the bottle isnt hot to the touch. You dont need a temp gun unless you have prosthetic arms.
Do you need a temp gun to let you know if soup is too hot? No, you just wait a few minutes until it cools.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26124137 - 08/06/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eh, Im pretty noobish but there is like a 15 degree difference between 'no longer being too hot to handle' and the <120 degrees I like to pour at. I like having my IR thermometer to help me not rush it and end up with extra condensation. Although I am just going off of what I heard about minimizing condensation in plates. I've never poured warmer than that but I also never dealt with condensation issues either.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26124143 - 08/06/19 12:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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mushboy said: I pour when the bottle isnt hot to the touch. You dont need a temp gun unless you have prosthetic arms.
Do you need a temp gun to let you know if soup is too hot? No, you just wait a few minutes until it cools.
Again, I don't know about others, but I have a high heat/pain tolerance apparently and this cheap tool solved the issues I ran into in the beginning.
I highly recommend it to NOOBS with a measly 15 bucks to spare.
(That is, IF they are at all hesitant with pouring their own for this reason.)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26124144 - 08/06/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea i'm kinda not following your thoughts there either.
Unless you're one of those people that literally feel no pain(like the ones that can hold something that's melting their skin), you can feel it. High tolerance just means you can stand it for longer, but you still feel it.
and for experience/newbs, idk maybe to feel what "ideal" is a few times if you happen to have one. But a little trial and error wasn't a big deal ime.
But, some people like them so whatever floats your boat in the end really. There's people that like to go as far as use a sous vide soo 
/e it's not like you're the only one with high tolerance. There's plenty of blue collar guys with calloused hands and high tolerance, or more closely relevant, kitchen workers with "hot hands".
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker] 1
#26124177 - 08/06/19 01:17 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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LtLurker said: yea i'm kinda not following your thoughts there either.
Unless you're one of those people that literally feel no pain(like the ones that can hold something that's melting their skin), you can feel it. High tolerance just means you can stand it for longer, but you still feel it.
Not sure what you didn't follow...?
I feel pain man... never said I didn't I just had a hard time with condensation in the beginning because my apparently gangster-manly-man hands weren't a good enough "thermometer" for me to get an accurate condensation-free "temperature reading". I am happy for all of you guys that can skip the tool though. 
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LtLurker said: and for experience/newbs, idk maybe to feel what "ideal" is a few times if you happen to have one. But a little trial and error wasn't a big deal ime.
Yes, if that is all that is needed to get the "feel" down so you can carry on without it cool. Or if you just want to be spot on every time with a simple flick of a trigger then you can keep using it for condensation-free pours since you already own it (for those of us that choose to).
Again, it was recommended for noobs sharing this concern. Not you "experienced hands." 
And as for the trial and error not being a big deal, I guess everybody has their own process and standards, and when pouring hundreds of dishes I think precision is valuable. I don't like guess work, or wasted supplies if I can help it. It is just an easy/cheap $15 long-term-solution for those that want one. To each his own.
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LtLurker said: But, some people like them so whatever floats your boat in the end really. 
Exactly friends. Again, this was a passing comment/tip to the noobs amongst us. I'm done talking about temp guns lol
Use 'em or don't, mushrooms will grow.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26124365 - 08/06/19 03:35 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm very lazy, so I melt agar in microwave first, then I put bottle into pot with sous vide circulator set to 47Β°C for 2 hours.
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If you want another reason for a IR temp gun doo-dad thinggy; use it to take appropriate dabs. It's good for noobs and veterans alike.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#26124410 - 08/06/19 04:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: If you want another reason for a IR temp gun doo-dad thinggy; use it to take appropriate dabs. It's good for noobs and veterans alike.
Oh YEEEAAH! That IS a good additional use! I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner, I have been dabbing on the regular and now my penchant for precision can translate to me getting high as well!
HEATING SOME UP NOW!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26124607 - 08/06/19 06:16 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im sad that i have nothing growing. I need to clean everything and start completely over... :sadmanthisfeels: its been too long, but i need employment... Lets legalize this shit so i can get a business loan and buy a flowhood.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum] 1
#26124652 - 08/06/19 06:37 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yesum said: No it grows on the tip of the toothpick making it so you dont have to use a knife to cut out a wedge and make a transfer. Just transfer with the toothpick
That was the reason for the toothpick in my Tek, but it should indeed add longevity by acting like the wood you insert into slants. I never kept a plate like that long enough to confirm since I used it to transfer, but I'm sure it'd work as long as the plate didn't dry out or go bad in the fridge. 
I use baby food jars as little slants with cut up chop sticks dropped inside at an angle. Same concept as a culture slant, just a bit wider.
When I first started, all I had was an X-acto and it'd get burning hot every time, even with foil. So to avoid that, I tinkered with the toothpicks, heh. But a scalpel and blade are perfect, so flame on.
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So I have not been having the best luck in cult lately. Ive got no pours getting random mold colonies popping up, grain jars are all going green. I cant for the life of me keep my room at a decent temp. Working around 82+ degrees and hotter when no one is home and AC/fans are off. My agar transfers have been like "melting" onto the new plates and growing out very odd.
I really want to blame the temp exploiting my flaws in technique. Any suggestions on diy cooling of a bedroom? We just have one hotel style ac unit in the wall in the living room but that hardly cools that room well, let alone my bedroom
I keep the overhead fan pulling air upwards, and I have 2 or 3 other fans trying to move air around.
maybe I outta invest in a window unit for the room or something, but has anyone tried Styrofoam coolers, ice and fans?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26125448 - 08/07/19 10:36 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have been fruiting in a room thats 90F-100F for a few weeks now. No contams here.
Pics?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#26125459 - 08/07/19 10:41 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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ugh dont like that, means im just reallllllly slipping lately then I dont have any pics taken, but I can take some and upload tonight after work
That is kinda positive tho, cause i have been stressing about how hot the room is for awhile like its detrimental to my attempts.....nope i just gotta slow down and button up my process then.
thanks for that input JHOVA!
*EDIT side note, I had a batch of pasty plates, that when transferred to, they never did anything...just kinda fuzzed up on the xfer piece and then...nothing
I told myself it was because I used 500ml of grain soak water that had been in the fridge for a couple weeks. All the solids had settled and idk that I didn't end up just making agar with no nutes
any insight here? even w/o nutes it should have done something right? lower nute levels help force out rizo growth isnt it?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26125485 - 08/07/19 10:51 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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A portable AC unit or a window unit might be ideal. I too have wedges go melty, but unless there is irregular growth I have no troubles with the phenomenon.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26125486 - 08/07/19 10:51 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try a standard recipe like 10/10/500 of LME and see how that goes.
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