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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23888874 - 12/02/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)








From the same batch of jars that as I said earlier contaminated, recovered, and fruited invitro.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #23888876 - 12/02/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Define "just fine".


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #23888883 - 12/02/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Define "just fine".






"Just fine" as in producing the largest, strongest invitro fruits I've ever had.


I don't understand. I'm not making this stuff up?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23888916 - 12/02/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23888925 - 12/02/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Cool pic munch. Looks wicked.


Also, I'm not trying to cause any fights. I'm sorry that it's hard to believe I had green PF cakes that recovered and produced extremely large potent mushrooms, but it is what it is. It very much is what it is. Im sorry it's hard to believe.

Im standing here reading this shit to my wife, and she's like what? You put those shitty jars in the cabinet months ago and didn't check on them for months. You didn't fruit them because they were green!

She don't even do this shit and knows what's up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23888933 - 12/02/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Cool pic munch. Looks wicked.




Which goes to show...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #23888941 - 12/02/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Cool pic munch. Looks wicked.




Which goes to show...





That he got deformed fruits off a very green mold mycelium. My cakes no longer have any blue or green, at all. They're mycelium colored white.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23888955 - 12/02/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Mold mycelium is white...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #23888971 - 12/02/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Mold mycelium is white...





I don't disagree with that at all.

Look at the white in my 4 jars i just posted. Then look at my two cakes I posted before that. Same batch. Same looking original contams. Very different white now.


Again, please understand I'm not trying to fight. However, I am gonna stand my ground on this one. im not making any of this up. What's the point? I originally asked if PF cakes often overtake contams and end up great, because mine did just that.


This is firing me up so well that I'm getting ready to make more shitty steam sterilized PF cakes, from multispore syringe, save the contaminated ones, and let them sit for months to show you all that I'm not playing any reindeer ass games.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter] * 1
    #23888974 - 12/02/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Give yer dick holster a rest, Moab.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #23888979 - 12/02/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

From what I have seen in my past shit tub grows tubs that were dirty tend to fruit quickly.
From what I know of biology it is a measure to ensure continuation of species.
Kind of like stressing a cannabis plant by exposing it to a foliar containing chitin, that Pasty and I quickly spoke of. When plants are exposed to this particular substance found in exoskeletons of invasive insects they naturally strengthen cambium layers and cellular structures in leaves and stems.  I am no mycologist,  however I am a botanist and know through observation that this is true.
Using that knowledge as a basis for other reproductive life forms I am assuming this is a similar situation.  The myc feels threatened so it fruits to put out spores to carry on.
Most species number one goal is reproduction.
Makes sense.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #23888981 - 12/02/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Mold mycelium is white...



ya open the picture in a new window and zoom in. the dark patch in the middle isn't even mold. its a mushroom cap, cause this was a clone plate. you can see some kind of mycelium growing out of the cap. but ya, zoomed out, it does kind of look like green mold.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter] * 1
    #23888987 - 12/02/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wait I'm confused. I saw the cakes in the chamber, are you saying they fruited and it was a great result? Besides the reason we toss contamed substrates isn't because they can produce fruit, it's because it increases sporeload. 1000's of people have tossed contamed subs and cakes outside and seen great fruits from em.

Obviously contams do lower BE etc, but every wild shroom grows from a technically contamed sub.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23888999 - 12/02/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Wait I'm confused. I saw the cakes in the chamber, are you saying they fruited and it was a great result? Besides the reason we toss contamed substrates isn't because they can produce fruit, it's because it increases sporeload. 1000's of people have tossed contamed subs and cakes outside and seen great fruits from em.






No pasty. The cakes in the chamber are 2 of 12-16 jars from the same batch that contaminated, and came back. We will see if they fruit well or not. The invitro jars I posted, are in fact from the same batch. They also came back around to looking like good ole PF cakes, I just didn't have any perlite to make a chamber with, so I fruited them in the jars.

The 4 left, the middle two look real bad. Doubt they'll come back. The whole thing I'm trying to say is, t appears the myc fought off the semi apparent not too terrible contams.

Some of the jars are/were too far gone. Black mold etc. some, half green moldy, and months later, APPEAR to be clean healthy normal PF cakes.

They could be white moldy as shit.

But as someone who did cakes only for literally a year, these "rejuvenated" cakes, appear to be some of the best producers, ever.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23889011 - 12/02/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well as a person who hasn't grown cakes in 4 years I can tell you trich actually eats cubes. Maybe it wasn't trich that you have. Cubes can actually over grow penicillium and it doesn't effect them much.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23889025 - 12/02/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Notice how he said grow over.  It's still there.  Everything's still there.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23889029 - 12/02/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Cool pic munch. Looks wicked.


Also, I'm not trying to cause any fights. I'm sorry that it's hard to believe I had green PF cakes that recovered and produced extremely large potent mushrooms, but it is what it is. It very much is what it is. Im sorry it's hard to believe.

Im standing here reading this shit to my wife, and she's like what? You put those shitty jars in the cabinet months ago and didn't check on them for months. You didn't fruit them because they were green!

She don't even do this shit and knows what's up.



It is very easy to believe:shrug:...contaminated subs can put out shitty yields it is nothing new...it is fucked for spawn and drops mad sporeloads...not worth that bad ass invitro fruit.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23889032 - 12/02/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Well as a person who hasn't grown cakes in 4 years I can tell you trich actually eats cubes. Maybe it wasn't trich that you have. Cubes can actually over grow penicillium and it doesn't effect them much.





Thank you. Again, some were too far gone. Some didn't come back. But some did. That's what I  was getting at. I just wanted confirmation that cube myc could fight off and win some mold battles.

I hate that it got into this long drawn out shit. Exactly what you said pasty is all I was looking to hear, because that's exactly what happened, and I know that's what happened.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23889036 - 12/02/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Well as a person who hasn't grown cakes in 4 years I can tell you trich actually eats cubes. Maybe it wasn't trich that you have. Cubes can actually over grow penicillium and it doesn't effect them much.



i can attest after letting several recent minis run their course with peni. it will make the sub more susceptable to trich, but it wont eat your myc like trich will. in my infamous sea of trich pic, you can see lots of fresh fruits even being eaten by the trich bottom left



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23889047 - 12/02/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Damn munch.

What the hell happened there?!


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