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Mike O.Rrhizal
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Legend21]
#25949122 - 04/22/19 01:10 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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How long should I soak or cook millet for?
I tried a no soak tek and it turned out terrible, all the millet stuck together so I couldn't shake the jar.
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Camera93
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Mike O.Rrhizal said: How long should I soak or cook millet for?
I tried a no soak tek and it turned out terrible, all the millet stuck together so I couldn't shake the jar.
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DjKimZ said: I did Foo mans wbs method
i personally do not like that prep. wbs comes in random sizes and when you try to strain, the small seeds easily create pockets were water gets trapped. and heat+wbs=fucked.
you almost always need to spread the wbs out and let it steam dry from the water boil. but thats a pain in the ass. wbs is messy.
just do a solid overnight soak of the seed. 12-18hrs is fine. you can strain like you normally would and load slightly wet.
the jars will turn out perfect.
this was just posted in another thread, i think it applies here but?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#25949154 - 04/22/19 01:37 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah an 18hr soak works great
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb]
#25949163 - 04/22/19 01:42 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks 
I'll put it to soak now.
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Soak link
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25949184 - 04/22/19 01:57 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Soaking small grains ftw.
Cooking large grains ftw.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25949191 - 04/22/19 02:00 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: just checking! maybe you just botched some of the pour
ime if it were a real mold/spore problem, every plate would turn to shit at roughly the same rate.
if plates randomly contaminate at irregular intervals then id assume its operator error.
Tis the season for mold: and more strict sterile technique!
I don't even soak millet/milo (sifted WBS) tek soon for "Caps' No BS WBS prep(less) master pints "
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25949211 - 04/22/19 02:14 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Agar was great... Jars were the best i have done.. and i swear my tubs just said fuck this.. we aren't gonna colonize.. nananana.. patience.....
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ShaperDreaming said: I'm SURE there was operator error.
That's the Spirit! best thing I can tell you is make sure all sterile technique is done when you are completely present. go back to basics. make sure you have all your bases covered, clean your sab, make sure you move slow and sterilize everything before it goes over media
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25949421 - 04/22/19 04:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive had great luck with foomans tek. Ive used it for over a year now with no problems. Just recently had a mold problem but thats not from that. I guess everyone has different experiences.
So far I don't like oats but ill keep messing with them and see. Seems like the mic doesn't jump onto the oats as quick as it does the WBS. Probably still making them a little wet but they dont leave marks on toilet paper or paper towel
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Legend21]
#25949427 - 04/22/19 04:38 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like Foomans wbs prep too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum]
#25949524 - 04/22/19 06:11 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you all inoculate your master jars with wedges or whole plates? Does it even make a difference which way in your experience?
I have always just dropped full plates in my jars but I think I'm gonna do wedges tonight instead.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb]
#25949625 - 04/22/19 07:20 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Smallest wedge feasible for a master. Every square mm over what is required is additional risk. Even if it is perfectly clean, just moving extra surface area of agar around in a transfer is additional risk, however small. Weigh your risks for spawn, but treat your masters like they're irreplaceable.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Secotoid]
#25949636 - 04/22/19 07:29 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psicomvb said: Do you all inoculate your master jars with wedges or whole plates? Does it even make a difference which way in your experience?
I have always just dropped full plates in my jars but I think I'm gonna do wedges tonight instead.
I drop in full plates. Just make sure itโs clean.
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Secotoid, approximately how long does it take your jars to colonize using such a small wedge?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SunnyDayze]
#25949691 - 04/22/19 07:53 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Secotoid]
#25949694 - 04/22/19 07:55 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Secotoid said: Smallest wedge feasible for a master. Every square mm over what is required is additional risk. Even if it is perfectly clean, just moving extra surface area of agar around in a transfer is additional risk, however small. Weigh your risks for spawn, but treat your masters like they're irreplaceable.
That's not logical. I prefer a single plate cut into 4-8 sections. Makes things way fast and let's my outrun potential bacteria.
Small wedges are amazing for cleaning things up, but the more inoculation points the better when it comes to grain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Secotoid]
#25949698 - 04/22/19 07:57 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Secotoid said: ~forever.
Exactly. Fuck that noise. A2g is slow enough already, why make it take longer?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25949704 - 04/22/19 08:00 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's perfectly logical. If you're willing to accept some contamination your approach is equally so, but otherwise you would have to be absolutely certain your entire plates are entirely clean, your clean work is perfect and your recieving jar's contents are likewise. Otherwise we're back to weighing risks and the post you responded to elaborates my view do that. Master cultures are master cultures, not expendables.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25949705 - 04/22/19 08:01 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Secotoid said: ~forever.
Exactly. Fuck that noise. A2g is slow enough already, why make it take longer?
That was a joke. Patience is key but if I choose to shake it takes a couple days longer til 1st shake and exactly the same as any other jar after that.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Secotoid]
#25949708 - 04/22/19 08:04 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lets see some pics if that works out for you. Drop clean plates and it's not an issue. Your entire plate should be clean if you want to take it to grain anyway.
He meant master jars, not a master culture. And depending on nomenclature that could mean one of a few different things
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