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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25913504 - 04/03/19 11:50 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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MS can put out full canopies, but typically not consistently
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25913511 - 04/03/19 11:54 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah you're right .. I meant cleaning spores up ... but isolating spores down will give you alot better results then just 3 to grain but you also can isolate a good pheneotype out of the equation by doing so
I have some lgt I just keep transferring and dropping to plates ever 5 or so and I gotta be on atleast 15 maybe more I dont count but I will post pics of the different tubs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#25913523 - 04/03/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: Only advice I have is learn agar while your current projects are going so youβre next tubs can have more guaranteed success, also youβll be ready to clone any nice fruits from these tubs. Agar+cloning is the path to success in this hobby.
Edit: yeah what he said agar, agar and more agar
Haha yea I need to get into it, don't have the time right now due to work constraints but it's something I'll be capable of soon. I've been doing reading and such on it, I will get there soon!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ibuprofemin]
#25913531 - 04/03/19 12:06 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25913534 - 04/03/19 12:08 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any one tek you recommend for ease of getting started with? Happen to have DME cuz I brew beer haha.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ibuprofemin]
#25913538 - 04/03/19 12:12 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Standard recipe for MEA is 20g agar powder and 20g ME to 1 liter (10g agar and 10g ME to 500ml) of water... I only use 3g agar powder and 6g LME to 500ml of water... not real important to get it dead on lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ibuprofemin]
#25913540 - 04/03/19 12:13 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ibuprofemin]
#25913541 - 04/03/19 12:13 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Super simple really, 10g agar, 8g DME 500mls h2o. Pressure cook in a suitable vessel and pour it when its cooled off enough to hold onto, or use pastyβs no pour tek if you only need a few plates at a time. You can tweak it a little for softer/harder agar and for weaker or stronger nutes but thats a great starting point. Softer agar is better for germinating spores or blenderless LI, weaker nutes will cause quicker growth useful for isolation, stronger nutes better for long term storage but less rhizo growth.
Edit: starting to feel like an echo chamber in here, lol this is why I donβt post much. Usually someone beats me to it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus] 1
#25913545 - 04/03/19 12:15 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Echoes are confirming...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus] 1
#25913548 - 04/03/19 12:16 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's what's good though man helping each other is how we keep this shit going
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#25913549 - 04/03/19 12:17 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976
I use no pour simple and easy I dont like using petris
That seems super easy to work with. Ideally my goal would be to isolate something thatβs easy to grow consistently and this seems like itβd be pretty adaptable for that.
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AyePlus said: Super simple really, 10g agar, 8g DME 500mls h2o. Pressure cook in a suitable vessel and pour it when its cooled off enough to hold onto, or use pastyβs no pour tek if you only need a few plates at a time. You can tweak it a little for softer/harder agar and for weaker or stronger nutes but thats a great starting point. Softer agar is better for germinating spores or blenderless LI, weaker nutes will cause quicker growth useful for isolation, stronger nutes better for long term storage but less rhizo growth.
Edit: starting to feel like an echo chamber in here, lol this is why I donβt post much. Usually someone beats me to it.
Sounds awesome, thank you!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ibuprofemin]
#25913567 - 04/03/19 12:27 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pouring plates is the shit... some real deal scientist shit! Lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ibuprofemin]
#25913569 - 04/03/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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quick question peeps!
I see some now put shoeboxes directing into fruiting conditions right after spawning. in the past that was done after full colonization. Ive been doing a mix of solo shoeboxes and placing shoeboxes into a SGFC. good results with both.
I currently have shoeboxes colonizing with the lids fully on. Is it safe to put them into the SGFC, into fruiting conditions, before full colonization?
whats everyones ideas, and experiences with this.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Trrrex92] 1
#25913696 - 04/03/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shoeboxes are in fruiting conditions from spawning anyway. They are their own fruiting chamber. Fuck a sgfc
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] 2
#25913714 - 04/03/19 01:51 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cant remember where we were talking about coir but here is the thread where the dude dropped it on agar https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23542736
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25913720 - 04/03/19 01:54 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for that Boogie.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmodo]
#25913725 - 04/03/19 01:56 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anytime .. there is good info in there anyway ... man if most of the people just went through some of the threads we all would discuss different things their knowledge would be endless damn near Haha.. I mean most of the time we were high as fuck just bullshitting ideas but ... imagine going through every thread since this site started in what 97?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Trrrex92]
#25913745 - 04/03/19 02:10 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Trrrex92 said: quick question peeps!
I see some now put shoeboxes directing into fruiting conditions right after spawning. in the past that was done after full colonization. Ive been doing a mix of solo shoeboxes and placing shoeboxes into a SGFC. good results with both.
I currently have shoeboxes colonizing with the lids fully on. Is it safe to put them into the SGFC, into fruiting conditions, before full colonization?
whats everyones ideas, and experiences with this.
Shoeboxes have the right conditions to go from fresh spawn to fruiting to harvest.. no need to fuck around playing with holes and shit like that... that's why they are so glorious 
P.S. that's also why you need to make sure they are SHOEboxes and not just plastic tubs... the actual shoeboxes have a cap for air exchange built in..
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech] 1
#25913749 - 04/03/19 02:16 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any tub will work... the substrate produces heat due to metabolism, which churns the air in the tub enough (due to convection currents) to produce FAE... some fit imperfectly enough that you don't even have to flip the lid
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25913801 - 04/03/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said:

Any tub will work... the substrate produces heat due to metabolism, which churns the air in the tub enough (due to convection currents) to produce FAE... some fit imperfectly enough that you don't even have to flip the lid
Not doubting you.. but a tub that clamps down with a tight seal that almost no air can get in or out would be fine? I thought the point of shoeboxes were the built in gap around the lid that is there to keep shoes from getting funky from humidity..
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