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 ShaperDreaming
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 Re: Cultivation General Discussion  [Re: LtLurker]
#25902303 - 03/28/19 02:56 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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LtLurker said:
LI probably faster all together, but you can't grow it out to inoculate a ton of jars with it like you could with LC.
Ok... I think I'm confused again. Can you link me to a LI tek that's for dummies (or anyone)? I think I'm going to try to learn this for edible gourmets! Unless you are trying to say that LC is better but LI is faster, in that case never mind and I'll try pastey's tek.
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tryptkaloids
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DreamReality said:
If you donβt care about expanding. Just do spores -> agar -> LI -> cakes. Skip cleaning all together since itβs speed is more important than stability and quantity. Using an LI will work faster than just out right spores to cakes.
Cleaning is essential, especially for going to liquids....
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ShaperDreaming said:
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LtLurker said:
LI probably faster all together, but you can't grow it out to inoculate a ton of jars with it like you could with LC.
Ok... I think I'm confused again. Can you link me to a LI tek that's for dummies (or anyone)? I think I'm going to try to learn this for edible gourmets! Unless you are trying to say that LC is better but LI is faster, in that case never mind and I'll try pastey's tek.
LI is agar that has been pulverized in sterile water. Either via blender or shaking a sealed jar.
Lc is less risky without a proper oster blender
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 Yesum
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When I did pastys ez lc tek. I didnt use moded lids. I dont think. I'd have to look through my pics.
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LtLurker
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum]
#25902339 - 03/28/19 03:22 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pasty's EZ LC. LC is basically an agar recipe without the agar so myc will grow in it. It's an effective way to turn one plate into a large amount of innoculant rather quickly.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23740857
Munch's blenderless LI. Just like trypt described. advantages of a liquid without the wait, little more limited in how much you can innoc.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22833314/fpart/1/vc/1
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tryptkaloids
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Would be much easier to to with single piece lids. Quote:
ShaperDreaming said:
So like... it'll sort of seal itself closed as it consumes the oxygen?
No, i mean the lid will seal to the jar in the pc
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#25902348 - 03/28/19 03:25 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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LtLurker said:
Pasty's EZ LC. LC is basically an agar recipe without the agar so myc will grow in it.
This is a misunderstanding. Its a heavy nute agar recipe (with the agar) then you transfer to it and add sterile water
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LtLurker
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25902357 - 03/28/19 03:29 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
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LtLurker said:
Pasty's EZ LC. LC is basically an agar recipe without the agar so myc will grow in it.
This is a misunderstanding. Its a heavy nute agar recipe (with the agar) then you transfer to it and add sterile water
Yea you're right. It is a little more similar to an LI at the top.
If you get to the bottom, you'll see jars with GW and Potato Flake/Karo added, instead of just water, growing more like a LC.
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Leftfield420
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#25902378 - 03/28/19 03:44 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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From my understanding the nutes in the agar leech into the sterile water.. Maybe I'm wrong?
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ShaperDreaming
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#25902385 - 03/28/19 03:46 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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LtLurker said:
Munch's blenderless LI. Just like trypt described. advantages of a liquid without the wait, little more limited in how much you can innoc.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22833314/fpart/1/vc/1
This guy makes me feel like I keep my shit pretty clean! 
Question: Do I need to sterilize the jar/lid before I use it for Munch's? If so, what's the procedures for that? Wrap it in foil (lid off) at 15psi for 20 min?
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tryptkaloids
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No, that's correct
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Yesum
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25902395 - 03/28/19 03:53 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is the way I always did. TV casualty over from mycotopia.
I remember because I was growing back then and thought it was fucking brilliant
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10648149
Theres different lids and jars ppl have made too. Like Ghetto little Elderbrack Blender. Or whatever therr called.
I made a tribal jar. It worked for a few times but my pressure cooker killed it eventually. I didnt build it tough enough. 
I'm gonna see if I can find a pic of that beast I made.
I cant find it. Here's a LI jar though. With the oster blades
Edited by Yesum (03/28/19 04:06 PM)
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ShaperDreaming
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25902505 - 03/28/19 05:05 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
No, that's correct
OK, I've read this back and forth a few times. No I don't need to sterilize? Or my 20min at 15psi guess is correct, and no to... Something I don't get?
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nulls
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#25902531 - 03/28/19 05:25 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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LtLurker said:
Still fun to learn it...
Agreed! I am not in a hurry and I haven't even fruited yet, but wanted to experiment with it. I have 3 jars of LC going and probably only one will go to grain even if they are all clean. I tested one on agar and so far it's clean and growing, but I also wonder if I simply tested clean parts and missed contams.
Edited by nulls (03/28/19 05:37 PM)
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nulls]
#25902538 - 03/28/19 05:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, sorry shaper, I was responding to the post before you. The last one on the last page. Yes you need to sterilize. 20m at 15psi is fine
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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break
Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25902543 - 03/28/19 05:37 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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checked the tub my jars are in.. 73 degrees.. i'm happy with that.. seems to be a good spot.
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Caps McGee
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech] 2
#25903045 - 03/28/19 10:22 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well alright... did someone say PE6 was prolific?
         
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LtLurker
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25903052 - 03/28/19 10:28 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do yours dry really dense to? For some reason seems like all my PE6 dries really solid(still hollow) and makes good weight for the size.
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Caps McGee
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#25903058 - 03/28/19 10:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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There solid for sure lol... this latest clone I'm playing with is small/medium fruit, but DAYUMMM! Will be modifying the tub next time in hopes the center will fill in better... going to modify in stages, top holes only first, add bottom holes later if needed... may just find something to store in these tubs and get some more: the center is raised almost/if not an inch... that or do a thicker sub to compensate... may actually try that before making tub mods, as I'm not sure that's not why the center didn't do as well/ was late
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Psicomb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25903084 - 03/28/19 11:00 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Keep us posted on that tub mod project, that's a cool idea caps.
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Caps McGee
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb]
#25903108 - 03/28/19 11:27 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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TOTALLY!
Same culture one grain (I think?) Or will be soon... I'll expand it and spawn another in the same tub (but a different one: ya know)with a thicker sub
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