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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25901972 - 03/28/19 11:58 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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PE6 has been prolific as fuck for me. Honestly I got bored of them because they could hit 6 flushes no problem. I wanted to see different things! I bet you'll get a ton of prints from that.




Hope so:) I have 1 pe6 jar that will be ready this week and 6 other jars that are maybe a week behind.. had an amazing time this time with agar and everything..

I used to keep all my shroom stuff in my basement around 65-70 degrees.. this time i put it all on top of my grow tent that stays around 75 and holy shit, the stuff is like WEEEEEE just growing so fast and perfect.. wasted like 2 years thinking 10 degrees woulsn't matter :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #25902049 - 03/28/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

65-70 is best... though it'll grow faster with higher temps, so do contaminants... the 65-70 range is suitable for the cubes, and far less hospitable to trich and bacteria than even 72-73 ... funny how a seemingly miniscule difference is actually a world of difference... it's all good if it's 100% clean (rare, especially spawned in open air) than you can get away with it and save a few days maybe... likely it'll bite your ass eventually IMO... too fast of growth can indicate the presence of bacteria IME: like it's running


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #25902050 - 03/28/19 12:48 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

What would be your guys' plan of attack if you just wanted to go from spore to mushroom as fast as possible.  I just made 8 pasty plates and was thinking:

Swab 4 plates, transfer best growth to 2, transfer that best from that to last 2 assuming it's clean.

tiger drop plates into sterile water/blenderless LI

inoculate jars, g2g some, shoebox others...


Sound good?  Also, I missed you all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
    #25902057 - 03/28/19 12:52 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Spore to mushroom fastest? Id start agar, AND inoculate some cakes... you could use the cakes for spawn/slurry for expansion, or fruit them directly...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
    #25902061 - 03/28/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I think it sounds good. Li should make your colonization little faster than wedges.

Cakes are more direct, but sounds like you got swabs or plates goin already.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
    #25902065 - 03/28/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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What would be your guys' plan of attack if you just wanted to go from spore to mushroom as fast as possible.  I just made 8 pasty plates and was thinking:

Swab 4 plates, transfer best growth to 2, transfer that best from that to last 2 assuming it's clean.

tiger drop plates into sterile water/blenderless LI

inoculate jars, g2g some, shoebox others...


Sound good?  Also, I missed you all.




Thst would be my plan of attack.

Shooting spores to cake then crumbling them and using them to g2g works well. Or do what caps is saying and make LI with it works well too


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum] * 1
    #25902077 - 03/28/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

OK wacky question/idea for "fastest" way to go spores to shrooms, would this be quicker?:

  • Spore->Agar
  • Agar->LI
  • LI->Muda Bottles (Coir based version)
  • DONE!


Just spitballing some ideas. Since the muda bottle tek is the full deal (nutes and sub) in one colonizing step, so you kinda skip the spawning step.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25902087 - 03/28/19 01:08 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

No that would take much longer cause eeyore now doing 3 different germinating processes ... spores to agar to whatever growth media .. lc. Li. Muda ect unless you're going to grow from muda and not expand those...


I do agar to lc to jars then jars to bags and that's like a 1 month process ... you gotta just stay on rotation


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25902088 - 03/28/19 01:08 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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PE6 has been prolific as fuck for me. Honestly I got bored of them because they could hit 6 flushes no problem. I wanted to see different things! I bet you'll get a ton of prints from that.




That would be great. Got some PE6 in rye jars now..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25902115 - 03/28/19 01:20 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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unless you're going to grow from muda and not expand those... 



The question was exclusively fastest spores -> shrooms. I'm not trying to expand anything, just get mushrooms out asap.

Yes, you would grow from Muda Bottles. Once colonized you just open the lids and fruit basically, but unlike BRF cakes, they colonize way faster.

I don't see how my idea is three different germination processes?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25902118 - 03/28/19 01:21 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I mean is the fastest way not brf cakes? Spores to substrate, done.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25902125 - 03/28/19 01:23 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

You can expand muda bottles like a slurry if you wanted to ... I thought that's what you were going at..


If you know so much then why ask the question ? It's pretty basic is it not ? I mean no spores to grain. You answered your own question if you weren't going to do any more expansion.. spores to agar 1. Agar to lc 2 lc to muda 3?? So muda to another would be 4


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25902134 - 03/28/19 01:29 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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I mean is the fastest way not brf cakes? Spores to substrate, done.



Yeah, but I thought his question implied he was going agar. So what's the fastest agar to fruit route might be more accurate in this case.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25902138 - 03/28/19 01:32 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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You can expand muda bottles like a slurry if you wanted to ... I thought that's what you were going at..

If you know so much then why ask the question ? It's pretty basic is it not ? I mean no spores to grain. You answered your own question if you weren't going to do any more expansion.. spores to agar 1. Agar to lc 2 lc to muda 3?? So muda to another would be 4



You mean like shredding brf->bulk? Huh, that sounds like a mess, I didn't consider that.

Sorry, I'm not trying to say I know much, I was confused what you were getting at. I don't have as much experience as others, so I'm just theorizing this stuff :shrug: Also, sometimes I'm overly cautious is all.

Also, I was confusing LI with LC I think. I was thinking a method like this: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23740857

I've never made an LI or LC, so I'm not sure the speed and efficacy of them. My question comes from not having used LI/LC to noc up muda bottles (only grains).

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I mean is the fastest way not brf cakes? Spores to substrate, done.



Yeah, but I thought his question implied he was going agar. So what's the fastest agar to fruit route might be more accurate in this case.



How good are BRF cakes at taking LI/LC? I don't think I've read anyone's experiences with that. If they take it well then you could just make a ton of LI/LC and go to BRF from there (same as my muda bottle idea).


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25902152 - 03/28/19 01:38 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

LC/LI isn't picky, all subs are equal in its eyes :bow2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25902170 - 03/28/19 01:44 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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LC/LI isn't picky, all subs are equal in its eyes :bow2:




LC is basically honey badger.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25902172 - 03/28/19 01:47 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm... so, after doing a little poking around and now that I have a bit more experience, I'm thinking about trying that easy LC tek of pasty's.

Does LI/LC need gas exchange? I'm wondering if I can take a colonized agar wedge and just drop it into a jar of sterile water (unmodified mason jar lid)? I don't mess around with modded lids outside of simple polyfill into holes, and I kinda thought I'd have to for LI/LC, but ... maybe not?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25902176 - 03/28/19 01:49 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I would just clean them on agar and inoculate a bunch of bottles and fruit as is


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25902179 - 03/28/19 01:50 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

@shaper, colonizing lc doesn't need ge, but it's best to have a good filter on a modded lid. Helps avoid a vaccume which can fuck you over.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25902184 - 03/28/19 01:51 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XXM94N5/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?smid=A3RWBUARKB9UWS&psc=1 you can buy 12 and get them cheaper ... these are the cheapest I have found cause they come with the seal ring other lids ar e like 5 plus the rings... lc is a nute liquid and li is just water


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