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J. Jack Flash
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] 1
#25866550 - 03/10/19 08:37 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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interesting idea. gut reaction, i don't like it. even if the surface of the print is completely uncontaminated, the outer foil is pretty much certain to be covered in bacteria, yeast and mold, right? swishing the foil around in water inside the baggie just spreads this throughout.
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tryptkaloids
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yea it really depends on where the syringe is going and where the print came from
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Psilosopherr
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25866599 - 03/10/19 09:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Struth brah. Take some extra care when making prints for this method perhaps. Since foil comes off the roll sterile, and you're putting an open air cap on it, the foil isn't the problem, its the cap itself and the method of printing. (not saying you're wrong just saying it could probably be worked around if it was an issue) Or maybe just print directly to the inside of the baggie, no foil. Put some foil over the top of the cap while its in the baggie so there's no contact between top of cap/baggie if we're feeling thorough
Something to mull over at least. Will post results when I have a good time to test it. Thanks for your thoughts folks
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#25866612 - 03/10/19 09:09 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you're handling all the printing procedure you got much more control, but I see where Jack's goin with his point. When I make prints I fold them and all that in a sab, but once they're folded, I'm handling them bare handed into their variety bags, then out of that bag into an individual bag to send out in trades. I'm sure I'm smearing the outside of those things with bacterias and molds.
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J. Jack Flash
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker] 1
#25866654 - 03/10/19 09:36 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh i see, for sure. my perspective was seeing a print from trade, rather than self made.
in this case, why stop with a baggie? water sterilized in a jar with a ship? drop the print, and leave it. stick it in the fridge, dip into it as desired.
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sh4d0ws
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: juniperus]
#25866661 - 03/10/19 09:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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teladi said: Luckily it helped me discover a faulty breaker.
Oh yeah. That is a bigger deal than a shitty dehydrator. A professional one might be worth it, if you're doing a lot of volume. I love my Excalibur 5 tray. I think they run 200-300 USD new, but I got mine on Craigslist for 50 USD. Anyway, that thing works like a dream.
I got an excalibur 10 tray for $400 canadian dollars so it's probably like $300 for a 10 tray in USD now a days i think
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juniperus
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
#25866672 - 03/10/19 09:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said:
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juniperus said:
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teladi said: Luckily it helped me discover a faulty breaker.
Oh yeah. That is a bigger deal than a shitty dehydrator. A professional one might be worth it, if you're doing a lot of volume. I love my Excalibur 5 tray. I think they run 200-300 USD new, but I got mine on Craigslist for 50 USD. Anyway, that thing works like a dream.
I got an excalibur 10 tray for $400 canadian dollars so it's probably like $300 for a 10 tray in USD now a days i think
Oh shit, yeah the 5 tray is only $140 on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Excalibur-3500B-Dehydrator-Temperature-Dehydration/dp/B002SHNIW0/
Definitely worth it
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sh4d0ws
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: juniperus]
#25866675 - 03/10/19 09:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah they kick ass I recommend them plus you can remove trays so you don't have to try and jam fruits in there and squish em
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Psilosopherr
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J. Jack Flash said: oh i see, for sure. my perspective was seeing a print from trade, rather than self made.
in this case, why stop with a baggie? water sterilized in a jar with a ship? drop the print, and leave it. stick it in the fridge, dip into it as desired.
Yeah they'd probably dissolve in the water readily wouldnt they?
In my head there had to be some sort of rubbing/scraping action to remove the spores but yeah that'd probably work. Now wheres one of my garbage prints..
To the people talking dehydrators: I'm curious: are those expensive dehydrators really worth it? For that price I'd just make my own, but maybe you can persuade me otherwise if you've got the time.
Edited by Psilosopherr (03/10/19 09:58 PM)
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juniperus
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#25866696 - 03/10/19 10:09 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: To the people talking dehydrators: I'm curious: are those expensive dehydrators really worth it? For that price I'd just make my own, but maybe you can persuade me otherwise if you've got the time.
All depends on how much volume you're doing I suppose. All I can say is that the Excalibur models are damn effective. I can dry a couple ounces in 10 hrs and they'll turn to powder just by looking at them. And that's not even getting close to the capacity of my 5 tray.
Anyway, I like mine. But I did only pay $50 for it, sooo
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: juniperus]
#25866716 - 03/10/19 10:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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"turn to powder just by looking at them" love the phrasing
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#25866946 - 03/11/19 03:13 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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The way I've always dried mine is with a hepa air cleaner with a modified air exit to fit a 3 1/2 inch dryer duct. Then I hook all of that to a rubber maid and insert 5 screen trays inside. You can do an entire canopy tub with room to spare.
Leave it in the dryer for 24 hours then move to another Rubbermaid filled with damprid. The whole process takes about 2 and 1/2 days to absolute cracker dry. This method has never failed to correctly dry a whole tub at a time.
I don't see how any size dehydrator would be big enough for a full canopy tub.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ghostveil25]
#25867027 - 03/11/19 05:07 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can jam 8-9 ounces in a regular dehydrator with no extra trays. Jam em in there... Then it doesn't take multiple days to dry them
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#25867053 - 03/11/19 05:34 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Never had this happen before. Spawned a pin clone culture a while back where the grain had been over cooked and was sticking to the bottom of the jar so I didn’t mix all of the GS with my sub. Jar has been sitting around for a while now. Picked it up to clean it and there are some nice fruits growing.:-)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25867056 - 03/11/19 05:35 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I can jam 8-9 ounces in a regular dehydrator with no extra trays. Jam em in there... Then it doesn't take multiple days to dry them
I was actually shocked at how well even a cheap dehydrator works... I pack mine and like 12 hours later, crisp crunchies
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J. Jack Flash
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#25867156 - 03/11/19 08:04 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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re: are they worth it?
i wouldn't buy an excaliber new. seem pretty overpriced for what they are. a space heater in a metal cabinet with plastic trays. i paid $100 for mine from craigslist. money saved went toward my AA.
re: how they work?
i'm real small time. it's pretty neat being able to put whole clusters in there and dry em up without crushing them. if i was drying multiple full canopy tubs, i'd certainly be building my own drying cab out of an old filing cabinet or something.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#25867192 - 03/11/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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This tub started pinning 6 days ago and the growth has seemed to slowed down quite a bit.
It has shrunk quite a bit over the past 3 days. Worth bottom watering or just let it be?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nowheremans]
#25867201 - 03/11/19 08:36 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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is there a rule of thumb on how far out you should transfer before going to grain? is it just until clean? Do you go a minimum of 2 or 3? I wanna say its about clean culture and not a magic number, like I could get a clean plate in 2 transfers if Im practicing good technique, or it could be 20 transfers out if I'm sloppy AF about it. Am I thinking in the right direction?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#25867236 - 03/11/19 09:13 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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5 proper although you can get away with less but they'll eventually killed by the cooties.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93] 1
#25867334 - 03/11/19 10:16 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Camera93 said: I wanna say its about clean culture and not a magic number, like I could get a clean plate in 2 transfers if Im practicing good technique, or it could be 20 transfers out if I'm sloppy AF about it. Am I thinking in the right direction?
generallly yes, but # of trasfers also depends on clenliness of the OG plate
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