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ShaperDreaming
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861033 - 03/08/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: I noticed when I soaked the milo it seemed to still be hard even after a 36 hour soak ? I went on vacation before ei could use it though .. is it better to boil the milo first or ??
This is the tek I'll be following. Sounds super easy since mine is not dirty like theirs is: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25116362
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Boogieman47
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Old hammy he still pops in or has he taken a hiatus ?? Yeah I like the way milo looks for sure .. I usually cook 50# at a time and cooking them on the stove is just a pain I usually boil water and pour into the tub I soak in ... but like I said the milo just never felt soft ..
So maybe I will have to just boil it
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861068 - 03/08/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Johnny Dont said: Milo is 9.53 for 50#, where I live. Its easy and quick to prep.
Milo and sorghum are the same
Well I'll be god damned. Don't do what Johnny Don't does!
My WBS grains always seems hardish after I prep them, but I figure that's normal given how small they are. I boil water and dump into 5 gallon buckets for my grains. Boogie, how do you dry your wheat if you do? I spread out my oats and fan dry them.
ham hasn't been around in a bit.
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Boogieman47
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I used to pour them into a 66qt sgfc and drain and shake for a few hours .. then I made some screen boxes out of 18x14 screen mesh and that worked better ... but I was at the point where I would under soak then I didnt have to worry too much about how dry the outside was ...
Using bags like that though is still tricky it's best to hydrate then dry properly cause for whatever reason the grain in bags dont soak the excess water up too well ..
Has anyone heard from him you think hes cool or just some bullshit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861137 - 03/08/19 02:20 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: I can't imagine oats ever being difficult to prep.
when I first started grain I used oats after reading every grain prep I could find and one of the wbs teks says to load them a little wet and they'll soak up the extra in the pc. my noob ass wasn't thinking about the hull of oats holding moisture and they kept coming out way too wet. Quote:
stareatclouds said: Never rocked wheat.
DOOO ITTT. if not for wheat I may have never learned how to prep grain properly Quote:
stareatclouds said:Pretty sure I remember my strained-WBS clumping after 2 hours at 15-17PSI, IIRC. Millet absolutely does.
maybe this is why I've never been able to get a wbs jar to make it to fruition. mostly millet in these parts. always clumpy and moisture always seemed off. Quote:
Boogieman47 said: Has anyone heard from him you think hes cool or just some bullshit
I think he's cool. he tends to stay out of the main threads nowadays but I see him in board posts sometimes when I browse them
how do you prep your wheat? I just hard boil for 25-35 min and drain on a large snake tub screen lid. that thing is a godsend in this hobby. love big flat screens
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25861166 - 03/08/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was soaking roughly 12 to 18 hours after boiling the water ... added some gypsum to the water in boil then strained and loaded I never rinse any of my grain and never have issues ..
Now you gotta remember I haven't been around and most of this is from how I was doing shit Haha..
But I love wheat over oats the myc seems healthier and whiter .. now as we always discuss it probably isnt anything but I was always tripping on my oat jars ... the wheat made it easier to notice bullshit
You made a good point about the oats maybe being more starchy which lead to the myc being able to consume the nutes better .. if that's the case it would explain the more whispy looking myc and leading to it having more nutrients which is obviously a good thing but I wont go back to oats ever Haha
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ShaperDreaming
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861176 - 03/08/19 02:30 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: I wont go back to oats ever Haha
I've seen so many horror stories of bad oats that I don't blame people for this decision! I saw a handful of oats that was mostly bugs once, and sure they'll be sterile and can get colonized... but fuck that. Nope. Never. Fuck that.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861185 - 03/08/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I rinse right after I strain to quick cool them but that's it. Quote:
Boogieman47 said: But I love wheat over oats the myc seems healthier and whiter, the wheat made it easier to notice bullshit
amen to that bro
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Boogieman47 said: I wont go back to oats ever Haha
I said that but then I remembered that I have most of a 50# bag in the garage that's been sitting for a couple years. surprisingly neither mice or bugs have gotten it
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25861187 - 03/08/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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it is full of other nasties from poor processing tho. bunch of cracked corn and shit. but fuckit. it's colonizing fine
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25861196 - 03/08/19 02:36 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Johnny Dont said: I don't soak my milo
I rinse it. Place in pot with water, bring to boil. Once a light boil starts I put a top on the pot and set a timer for 10mins. Let it boil for the entire 10mins, only turn down the heat if your pot is boiling over. When the timer goes off I strain my milo, and spread it out on a towel till it stops steaming. Load into jars, PC.
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Is it very bad that my brf mix was little clumpy, when i was mixing it, it was like ok but when filling jars mix was clumpy, little clumps. When im not fucked already then whats the best option when my jars came little dry. I wasn't at field capacity because i didn't wanted it too wet. When i squeezed little harded then some water came out. Seemed okay but idk
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Yeah dont get me wrong I've probably gone through 1000#s of oats and had good grows I just always had that "is this jar funky or what" feeling.... it really is peace of mind using other grains at least for me
Haha yeah that happened to me trypt I would buy 8-10 bags at a time and someone pointed me to wheat and I still had 3 bags of oats left .. I just mixed the 2 together to finish them quicker .. I just feel good to be back and able to do what I love
Hmmm seems like a fast prep johnny I will check it
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861228 - 03/08/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Firstttimer said: Is it very bad that my brf mix was little clumpy, when i was mixing it, it was like ok but when filling jars mix was clumpy, little clumps. When im not fucked already then whats the best option when my jars came little dry. I wasn't at field capacity because i didn't wanted it too wet. When i squeezed little harded then some water came out. Seemed okay but idk
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Boogieman47 said: I just feel good to be back and able to do what I love
I think I speak for many of us regulars that it feels good to have you back around
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Boogieman47
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25861236 - 03/08/19 02:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks man I'm glad to see alot of you guys still safe and doing what we do ... I missed most of you guys like I missed my fam..
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Firstttimer]
#25861247 - 03/08/19 02:57 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: I used to pour them into a 66qt sgfc and drain and shake for a few hours .. then I made some screen boxes out of 18x14 screen mesh and that worked better ... but I was at the point where I would under soak then I didnt have to worry too much about how dry the outside was ...
Using bags like that though is still tricky it's best to hydrate then dry properly cause for whatever reason the grain in bags dont soak the excess water up too well ..
Has anyone heard from him you think hes cool or just some bullshit
I'm pretty sure ham is good. IIRC, a few of the Tribe members chat with him offline and they'd probably report some BS. I'm amazing ham posted as much as he did with all the work he put in. If you mean spawn bags, I get my grain very before before loading them up.
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Firstttimer said: Is it very bad that my brf mix was little clumpy, when i was mixing it, it was like ok but when filling jars mix was clumpy, little clumps. When im not fucked already then whats the best option when my jars came little dry. I wasn't at field capacity because i didn't wanted it too wet. When i squeezed little harded then some water came out. Seemed okay but idk
Your BRF shouldn't be field capacity, so no worries there. It should just be a little damp. A little clumpy doesn't seem like a biggie, but ideally you want it airy so the mycelium isn't cramped and bothered. You don't want it overly wet or packed down very tight either. A "little clumpy" is subjective though so maybe post pictures?
I believe it's recommended to mix the water in with the verm first and THEN add the BRF. Did you do this? Did you, Firstttimer? Don't lie to me.
I haven't done PF Tek in years, but I don't believe water should come out. Do you mean like squeezing ULTRA hard with a teeny drop?
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Boogieman47
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Yeah I remember he was doing alot and I know doing alot and posting is more then alot hahhaha ...
Anyways that is good hammy was always a good dude to me and I appreciated him
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861303 - 03/08/19 03:19 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sup Boog good to see you on again
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Steevo]
#25861312 - 03/08/19 03:24 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks man you as well hope everything in your life has been good
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#25861320 - 03/08/19 03:27 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: Anyways that is good hammy was always a good dude to me and I appreciated him
Agreed. He hooked me up with a Lion's Mane syringe and a GLT print. And for what in return? Absolutely nothing.
I mean, not out of the goodness of his heart or anything. I just stiffed him on the trade. Kidding. ham is dope. Shroomery folk are super generous. When I'm back rocking tubs I need to spread the spores. I've been slacking on that.
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stareatclouds said: When I'm back rocking tubs I need to spread the spores. I've been slacking on that.
I started a nice big harvest earlier in the week. Cut off 20 of the best caps and set them up to print to do a simple giveaway. Nothing too special. Totally forgot about them until now. Smelly liquid mess
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