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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25842487 - 02/27/19 10:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Aren't kramer cakes verm+grains?



Yea, but they're more like a cake with grains in it(holds form). IIRC

I understood this guy to be adding small amounts of verm to a qt jar of popcorn. Something I've seen some try to "prevent excess moisture" and "grab spore solution"

I could be misunderstanding maybe.

/e double read. I don't think I misunderstood him.
" I resorted to the POPCORN TEK with a little twist of my own. SPRINKLING JUST ENOUGH BRF TO COAT THE POPCORN GRAINS BEFORE STERILIZATION "


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #25842513 - 02/27/19 10:50 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Popcorn sucks, pf tek sucks.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25842564 - 02/27/19 11:36 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't lose a lot of stuff... when I do, it's snuck it's way through into a box before I catch it, typically showing up with, or just after pinset development...




I was curious if you actually kept track of the stats (plates and jars, not just tubs) or were just venturing a guess. I keep track of how many jars go green after inoculation and was curious if you did, too. I'd expect your success rates to be higher than most given you don't G2G or use liquids and those methods provide additional vectors.

Do you mind sharing how many shoebox tubs you run at once? Or maybe how many you've run so far?


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if I can get away with it, I'll continue doing it lol... so far so good!(knocks on wood)




lol haven't you had a hood for like 3 days? Don't think you can have enough results yet to say.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25842810 - 02/28/19 06:42 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I asked about this previously and think bod said he's experienced it. But anybody ever have their gloves produce some soapy, slippery residue after putting iso on them? I just bought a brand new 100 pack of latex-free, nitrile gloves, and after wiping with iso, they get little soap bubbles and make EVERYTHING impossible to handle. Pretty infuriating when you're all setup and need to do a bunch of stuff.



Happens to me on almost every box ever of all different brands idk why either. Powder free nitrile




My latest pack of powder free nitrile gloves are POS. They start to disintegrate if I rub my hands too hard while spreading iso around. No soapyness at least.

TBH I prefer powder free latex. Much stretchier, and more forgiving when my hands start to sweat.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: teladi]
    #25842858 - 02/28/19 07:45 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Stareatclouds
Thank you for the response to all my contamination issues.  I am not set up to take a video and will probaly just muddle along and keep reading while I do.  Every time I get frustrated, I post something and then go back to playing.  I thank you for the tinfoil and get a real scalpel comment and it is nice to know that I was not just imagining my heat issue but that others had experienced it.

I know my process is screwed up and this is turning out to be harder then I thought it would. 

I think my mycelium might be getting weak to due to making so many two jar transfers before I started agar.  I don't seem to get any real stringy growth and it seems to be more fluffy then sit should be.  Everything seems to be slowing down growth wise and what took 5 days is not getting done in ten or more now.  I have not stayed consistent with my teks and have did some expermenting also and so have enough verables threw in that tracking the problems down is harder then it should be.

If I could get a fruit or pin, I would start over from that.

I have been reading hard for a couple months and have more time to do the reading due to being retired and being able to spend lots of time on it.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for your effort to help.
Cheers
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gww]
    #25842868 - 02/28/19 07:58 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

No problem, gww. I was in your position once and am now able to grow mushrooms consistently. I was able to successfully use slurries and liquid inoculants in my first couple of months thanks to the help on here. I have little doubt that if you keep practicing, you'll be able to achieve comparable results.

For a video, all you need is to set your phone on the top of your SAB and upload to YouTube. I can help you with that if you'd like. If that's impossible or too difficult, feel free to ignore. Yep. A #7 scalpel handle and #11 blades are optimal, IMO. They're very cheap on Amazon or eBay and made a world of difference for me.


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I think my mycelium might be getting weak to due to making so many two jar transfers before I started agar.  I don't seem to get any real stringy growth and it seems to be more fluffy then sit should be.  Everything seems to be slowing down growth wise and what took 5 days is not getting done in ten or more now.  I have not stayed consistent with my teks and have did some expermenting also and so have enough verables threw in that tracking the problems down is harder then it should be.





What do you mean by "two jar transfers?"

The 'stringy' growth you describe is called rhizomorphic and the more cottony, fluffy growth is called tomentose. They don't really mean much of anything. Rhizomorphic is prettier and easier to select "sectors" and differentiate from mold. But neither indicate how the mycelium will perform or fruit and the same mycelium can alternate between tomentose and rhizomorphic (a less nutritious agar recipe will promote rhizo growth as the mycelium stretches out to find food).

It's tough to give much advice without a full list of what you're doing (which video would help with).


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RadaGast888]
    #25842890 - 02/28/19 08:15 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Ltlurker is right bud, I'd stay away from popcorn. Popcorn is so large you get very few inoculation points per jar//bag. Do some agar work and practice getting perfect rye berries (I follow RRs grain prep video to a T and it hasn't failed me in many years of growing off and on) It's really not that expensive or daunting to do agar and proper grains once you get the hang of it.

Also, Hi all, I've been a long time lurker dabbling in this hobby and I'm back again, hoping to be more active on the forums, haha.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25842893 - 02/28/19 08:17 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Star....
I mean that I would make two jars of bird seed spawn and then when I went to bulk, I would use part of one of the jars to start two new jars to spawning.

I don't think my phone is modern enough to make a video and I don't have a data plan and would have to get it to my computer to be able to do anything with it.

The last two things I have tried putting sterilized water on a culture in a 4 ounce mason and let it grow a week and used it to do three jars.  Not much action.  Yesterday, I took a cornmeal paste and a culture I grew on it and put some sterilized water on it after I cut it up and shook like crazy (no blender).  The seed I did with it now has water in the bottom of the jar but it seems to be growing.  I have tried lc but never had anything but contam grow.  As you can see, I am all over the board with some of the stuff I am doing.  I have several bags of wood pellet bulk that the mycelium seems to have grown on the top half but has not fully colonized to the bottom yet in over a month and some less. 

I intend to get it but it might take me a little longer then most.  I find lots of stuff but don't have a perfect skill of using the search engine to find exactly what I am looking for and then have to weed though the parts that make sense to me with what I have to work with.  It is all good.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sinisterminister7]
    #25842912 - 02/28/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Ltlurker is right bud, I'd stay away from popcorn. Popcorn is so large you get very few inoculation points per jar//bag. Do some agar work and practice getting perfect rye berries (I follow RRs grain prep video to a T and it hasn't failed me in many years of growing off and on) It's really not that expensive or daunting to do agar and proper grains once you get the hang of it.

Also, Hi all, I've been a long time lurker dabbling in this hobby and I'm back again, hoping to be more active on the forums, haha.




I used to champion for rye.  I still think it seeems to colonize better than anything I’ve tried (which is almost everything) but I got real tired of the way it tends to clump and not break up.  Plus it’s expensive and he soaking process takes a whole day. 

I really prefer oats.  I wanna try wbs because it just seems so lazy and easy.  Plus it’s at every grocery store on earth.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gww]
    #25842921 - 02/28/19 08:28 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Star....
I mean that I would make two jars of bird seed spawn and then when I went to bulk, I would use part of one of the jars to start two new jars to spawning.

I don't think my phone is modern enough to make a video and I don't have a data plan and would have to get it to my computer to be able to do anything with it.

The last two things I have tried putting sterilized water on a culture in a 4 ounce mason and let it grow a week and used it to do three jars.  Not much action.  Yesterday, I took a cornmeal paste and a culture I grew on it and put some sterilized water on it after I cut it up and shook like crazy (no blender).  The seed I did with it now has water in the bottom of the jar but it seems to be growing.  I have tried lc but never had anything but contam grow.  As you can see, I am all over the board with some of the stuff I am doing.  I have several bags of wood pellet bulk that the mycelium seems to have grown on the top half but has not fully colonized to the bottom yet in over a month and some less. 

I intend to get it but it might take me a little longer then most.  I find lots of stuff but don't have a perfect skill of using the search engine to find exactly what I am looking for and then have to weed though the parts that make sense to me with what I have to work with.  It is all good.
Thanks
gww



Jeeze man, you got a lot going on by the sounds of it. I suppose it's good to experiment alot and figure out what works best for you!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25842938 - 02/28/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

WBS is awesome and it is on sale at a lot of places due to the season.  24 hour soak, strain, PC, bam perfecto. Or pour boiling water on it, let it sit 30 min, strain, PC, bam


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25842940 - 02/28/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Ltlurker is right bud, I'd stay away from popcorn. Popcorn is so large you get very few inoculation points per jar//bag. Do some agar work and practice getting perfect rye berries (I follow RRs grain prep video to a T and it hasn't failed me in many years of growing off and on) It's really not that expensive or daunting to do agar and proper grains once you get the hang of it.

Also, Hi all, I've been a long time lurker dabbling in this hobby and I'm back again, hoping to be more active on the forums, haha.




I used to champion for rye.  I still think it seeems to colonize better than anything I’ve tried (which is almost everything) but I got real tired of the way it tends to clump and not break up.  Plus it’s expensive and he soaking process takes a whole day. 

I really prefer oats.  I wanna try wbs because it just seems so lazy and easy.  Plus it’s at every grocery store on earth.



Yeah man, my biggest pet peeve with the rye berries is the price. I did WBS for a couple years when I started because it was cheap and available, but I found it so difficult to get the moisture content i wanted that I'd rather just pay the higher premium for rye. WBS is so friggin' inconsistent bag to bag, it's so dirty, and IME it's way to easy to pop kernals and it winds up a big starchy mess welded together and hard to break up, more often then not. The rye can take so much more simmer before they start exploding I can actually get them hot enough to steam the outside moisture off. I've never tried oats, you really like em eh? Maybe I'll try a batch.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sinisterminister7]
    #25842951 - 02/28/19 08:45 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I wasn’t so sure on my first batch.  Did em side by side to rye and frankly the rye kicked its butt.
My moisture may have been a little low.

I’ve done explicitly rye the past five or six runs and it gets better every time.  I got some jars right now ready at exactly 13 days, and they always break up nice. 

You almost can’t boil them too much, almost can’t dry em too much.  Very hard to fuck up, and he price takes the cake.  18$ for a 50lb bag.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25842958 - 02/28/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Do you guys think berries work better than RGS? I haven't tried berries. but RGS wasn't bad for me...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #25842967 - 02/28/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Berries are probably the best grain I’ve ever used,  they’re just expensive and frankly, easy to fuck up and they take a full 24 hours to do right.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #25843026 - 02/28/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Do you guys think berries work better than RGS? I haven't tried berries. but RGS wasn't bad for me...



Yes, rye berries are far superior to RGS as far as I'm concerned :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25843034 - 02/28/19 09:21 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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stareatclouds said: but still air as opposed to a stream of air is much different. I wouldn't try and clean up a plate with your hood, for instance.



can you elaborate? I've recamended the same thing to hood users but then someone with a hood chimed in that it's not a big issue, which I'm inclined to believe. their reasoning was that everything other than spawning is done in clean air so it doesn't matter


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sinisterminister7] * 1
    #25843036 - 02/28/19 09:21 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Do you guys think berries work better than RGS? I haven't tried berries. but RGS wasn't bad for me...



Yes, rye berries are far superior to RGS as far as I'm concerned :smile:




Hmm.. might have to try that after my next RGS... i just like with RGS.. put the seeds in the jar... add water.. PC.. done.


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    #25843061 - 02/28/19 09:31 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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icetech said:
Do you guys think berries work better than RGS? I haven't tried berries. but RGS wasn't bad for me...



Yes, rye berries are far superior to RGS as far as I'm concerned :smile:




Hmm.. might have to try that after my next RGS... i just like with RGS.. put the seeds in the jar... add water.. PC.. done.



Are you having good results doing this? I'm a stickler for perfect grains so I'd never try it, but if it works for you then hey why not. Don't you have trouble getting the moisture correct consistently?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25843069 - 02/28/19 09:35 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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stareatclouds said: but still air as opposed to a stream of air is much different. I wouldn't try and clean up a plate with your hood, for instance.



can you elaborate? I've recamended the same thing to hood users but then someone with a hood chimed in that it's not a big issue, which I'm inclined to believe. their reasoning was that everything other than spawning is done in clean air so it doesn't matter



I'd never try to clean up a contaminated agar plate in flow, only in a SAB, to avoid blowing nasties all over your working area in the airflow. You want that to rest and gently transfer the clean sectors (a peice no bigger than a grain of rice) to new plates. Only use clean cultures in front of a flowhood I'd recommend


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