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tryptkaloids
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I don't need a full sterilization cycle. Just enough to melt that shit. Anyone know the melting point of agar?
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25727083 - 01/06/19 12:01 PM (5 years, 24 days ago) |
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Found it. 85c/185f
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Caps McGee
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25727085 - 01/06/19 12:02 PM (5 years, 24 days ago) |
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thx tryp
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Duhrwood Stevens
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Duhrwood Stevens said:
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tryptkaloids said: Id rather not go through why its safer in this case to resteam
Then do them again.

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tryptkaloids said: I don't need a full sterilization cycle. Just enough to melt that shit. Anyone know the melting point of agar?
About 185 but if you're just melting... Quote:
Duhrwood Stevens said: I think you could reheat in a pan of water on the stove.
please ''go through why its safer in this case to resteam''.
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bodhisatta 
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If you stick a bottle of solidified agar into pot of boiling water its going to take a good hour or longer to fully melt. Microwave that shit
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Ferather
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25727126 - 01/06/19 12:19 PM (5 years, 24 days ago) |
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I do 25% power for 4x longer, you get a nice an even heat, rather than partially melt, some of it boiling.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25727135 - 01/06/19 12:23 PM (5 years, 24 days ago) |
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I have a pour top on that makes it too tall for the microwave. The lid to this pour top was on the bottom of my sab and my hands went over it so i feel safer getting it up to atleast 5 psi. Imma vent it for 15m and see if that works
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25727137 - 01/06/19 12:24 PM (5 years, 24 days ago) |
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Just make new stuff lol
I do full power and common sense and get my agar melted in 25% less time
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IntergalacticSpore
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Subfinder]
#25729017 - 01/07/19 12:54 PM (5 years, 23 days ago) |
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How can you see what pressure your PC has if you have no gauge.
I realized that my old PC must be responsible for my failures because theres no way I'd have screwed up 40 jars otherwise. I had mushrooms growing on every agar dish except about 3% of them.
I wan't to find out if PC is to blame.
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Caps McGee
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What's the weight rated for? Should be written on it somewhere... if you're getting steam, you're getting the labeled psi... add 30 minutes to your run time and see if it clears up the issue
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bodhisatta 
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IntergalacticSpore said: How can you see what pressure your PC has if you have no gauge.
I realized that my old PC must be responsible for my failures because theres no way I'd have screwed up 40 jars otherwise. I had mushrooms growing on every agar dish except about 3% of them.
I wan't to find out if PC is to blame.
The gauge is basically useless. The rocker/weight/toggle regulates pressure. Whatever psi your cooker is set for is what it gets to.
If your contamination is mold your PC is absolutely not the problem as molds die well before sterilization temperature (170F kills nearly every species of fungi/mold known)
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tryptkaloids
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IntergalacticSpore said: theres no way I'd have screwed up 40 jars otherwise.
Never think this. Its Always you. Are you venting? Does your grain come out wet? Cant troubleshoot with no information
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Bumholio
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IntergalacticSpore said: How can you see what pressure your PC has if you have no gauge.
Have a look at the bottom, it should be stamped on there somewhere (1.1bar or 15psi, or not if it's not a 15psi model). I think it's the law (certainly in the EU anyway) for pressure vessels to be stamped with the working pressure.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bumholio]
#25731546 - 01/08/19 12:35 PM (5 years, 22 days ago) |
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Hello - wondering yβall could tell me if you think this box needs more moisture- plenty of condensation on the sides, but I noticed today that the substrate is pulling away from the ends - could be due to mycelium growth but just wanna get your opinions. Trying to water once a week if necessary.
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Caps McGee
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Sub is quite thin, will lose water rapidly... shrinking is normal as the culture consumes water and nitrients... condensation indicates nothing more than a higher temp inside than outside the tub and will occur even if your sub is dry... monitor surface conditions, want a glistening dew, allowing evaporation to occur between mistings to stimulate pinning and avoid over-saturating the substrate ... mycelial growth on the fruit indicates insufficient FAE... may end up needing to bottom water midflush so the substrate can finish supporting the pinset to maturity
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25731742 - 01/08/19 02:06 PM (5 years, 22 days ago) |
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Thanks - appreciate the help.
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Caps McGee
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Spend some of your free time reading up on the organism you're propagating: metabolic mechanisms and such... pretty cool stuff and will answer a lot of your questions about condition requirements
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25731997 - 01/08/19 04:32 PM (5 years, 22 days ago) |
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Caps McGee said: Spend some of your free time reading up on the organism you're propagating: metabolic mechanisms and such... pretty cool stuff and will answer a lot of your questions about condition requirements
For sure, Iβm learning so many things and different ways to cultivate. Iβm hoping I can stick with this one way and master it to fully understand growing conditions. I know this forum has a lot to offer, but I do need to get more involved in the science surrounding all aspects of proper cultivation.
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Blacklight98
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#25733122 - 01/09/19 05:05 AM (5 years, 21 days ago) |
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Ok so i got a question maybe someone can help with so i have 55 qrt mono tubs with 5 gallon supersonic misters with aquarium pumps and im trying to get emm set up for spawn run i got the synthetic filter disc an i was wanting to put over my holes to allow for ge on spawn run then pump fae an humidity when needed but im seeing people saying to not use the disc but i bought 160$ worth of emm so kinda late to go back now but im wondering if i would get enough ge an i was also wondering if i should keep the aquarium pumps on an foggers off during spawn run so i get fae an ge??
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Blacklight98]
#25733259 - 01/09/19 07:21 AM (5 years, 21 days ago) |
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Sounds like you have read outdated info. You don't need $160 worth of filters. You don't need supersonic misters. You don't need aquarium pumps. What do you currently have growing?
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