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kerberus



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25646635 - 11/29/18 01:04 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: God i hate ikea
There's one a few miles from me in Oak Creek Wisconsin now.
I particularly detest their need to put arrows on the floor in the mistaken belief that i can not work out how to walk around a bloody store!
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: kerberus]
#25646661 - 11/29/18 01:20 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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You and I don't need them but trust me their average clientele does... They can't even figure out the check out lines and those have ropes
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25646727 - 11/29/18 02:08 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Will it matter if I substitute BFR in place of the amaranth flour? Also is there something I can use instead of dex/ME? Trying to make this with what I have on hand.
10 grams dried dog food (ground to flour) 10 grams amaranth flour 2 grams dextrose or malt extract 9 grams agar agar 500 ml potable or distilled water
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DreamReality
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Player 1]
#25646809 - 11/29/18 03:00 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Player 1 said: Whats the biggest B+ you have ever seen or grown? How much did it weigh?
I've grown one that was 81g wet.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DreamReality]
#25646871 - 11/29/18 03:41 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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That sounds way too rich what are you trying to do?
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Twobitbear
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25646892 - 11/29/18 03:50 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey friends, I'm trying to dial in my greenhouse at the moment. I have an ultrasonic mister that was on half way and I found that during the night, colder temps achieve high RH pretty easy, so the cakes were getting drenched. I've got a 24hour timer on the way with 15 minute increments so I'm gonna set it for 15 - 30 mins an hour during the day and every 2 hours at night for 15 mins.
My main problem is; is this decay from water damage? FAE isn't a problem because the bottom is open with insect mesh covering it and the opening. There's constant passive air exchange occurring and the ultramist is constantly wicking moisture,fresh air upwards and c02 out from the bottom
  
Top images are when I noticed the too high moisture content and here's some pins' condition after I put the ultramist on it's lowest setting.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Twobitbear]
#25646931 - 11/29/18 04:08 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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The answer is yes and you probably want less time than that. Evaporation is important. Don't let that shit stagnate on there
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25646935 - 11/29/18 04:10 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: That sounds way too rich what are you trying to do?
If that’s directed at me I want to try a different agar recipe. Want an agar that’s good for cubes and exotics. I like the GSA I’m currently using but as far as time it can be difficult for me to make.
Found these recipes on here and have heard good things about DFA.
https://www.shroomery.org/5243/What-are-some-good-agar-media-recipes
Edited by Brain Bulb (11/29/18 04:14 PM)
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Bumholio
What's the craic



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25647616 - 11/29/18 10:38 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone have any tips for condensation on plates? I'm getting a bit fucked off with my agar work atm and condensation is my main source of fucked offness.
I'm using 90mmx15mm polys, I don't have a digital thermometer so I don't know what temp I'm pouring at but the bottle is cool enough to handle, I'm pouring in my grow room so ambient temp is low 20s I'm leaving the plates stacked in 10's while they cool and wrapping with cling film when set. I'm still getting condensation on most lids though and if the lids are clear I'm getting water running about on the medium FFS.
Tried some pasty plates tonight and they're worse only thing I've been able to get that's clear is small glass jars (the kind you'd get mustard or shit like that in) but that's not the best to work with and I only have the 1 jar.
I was thinking it could be something to do with the cold weather because I don't remember having had a problem a few months ago but if I'm pouring in my room at 20° then it couldn't be so idkwtf my problem is.
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JHOVA
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bumholio]
#25647621 - 11/29/18 10:43 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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i use pasty plates in glass 1/2 pints. To remove water this is what you do. Tilt the plate to one side in a sab. Roll it around in your hand a couple times so the condensation pools on one side. Open the lid while tilted at a 45 degree angle up. Dump the water from the container and lid.
Or just leave your plates for 4 days so it dries up.
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Mateja


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bumholio]
#25647643 - 11/29/18 11:06 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bumholio said: Does anyone have any tips for condensation on plates? I'm getting a bit fucked off with my agar work atm:(and condensation is my main source of fucked offness.
I'm using 90mmx15mm polys, I don't have a digital thermometer so I don't know what temp I'm pouring at but the bottle is cool enough to handle, I'm pouring in my grow room so ambient temp is low 20s I'm leaving the plates stacked in 10's while they cool and wrapping with cling film when set. I'm still getting condensation on most lids though and if the lids are clear I'm getting water running about on the medium FFS.
Tried some pasty plates tonight and they're worse only thing I've been able to get that's clear is small glass jars (the kind you'd get mustard or shit like that in) but that's not the best to work with and I only have the 1 jar.
I was thinking it could be something to do with the cold weather because I don't remember having had a problem a few months ago but if I'm pouring in my room at 20° then it couldn't be so idkwtf my problem is.
I literally never get condensation on my plates and this is what I do: Pour the plates stacked 10 high and leave them over night or two nights or 2 weeks. Whenever I'm ready to do something to them. Even then, after I do something to them I sometimes leave them in the SAB unwrapped until I decide to use them. But even when I wrap them 30 min after they've cooled I still never get condensation. I always pour at ~45C. I put my agar bottles inside a qt jar water bath with a meat thermometer in the water. Looks like this (minus the wet towel, old Pic)
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It's important that plates are stacked so that the lid doesn't cool down much faster than the agar but keeps a similar temp/tempo. This is crucial.
And of course the hotter you're pouring the more condens you're gonna have to deal with in a clever way. Here is one way you can clear up plates that fog up sometime on their own when Temps swing in the house. Using heat pads.
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Bumholio
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#25647649 - 11/29/18 11:12 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right so rather than taking your bottle from the PC and pouring as it cools, you pc it take it out then a couple of hours or days later warm it up to 45°c?
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Mateja


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bumholio] 2
#25647660 - 11/29/18 11:28 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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No I take newly sterilized agar bottles and place them in a water bath and when temperature gets down to 46C I begin to sit down and ISO my gloves. It's important that you place the hot agar bottles in a hot water bath. Doesn't need to be boiling hot just fill with the hottest water from the tap. But if you put hot agar bottles in room temp water or colder they are likely to crack. Happened to me once, didn't notice until I started pouring..
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Bumholio
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#25647679 - 11/29/18 11:56 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right I'm with you now. And then once you've poured them just leave them stacked and unwrapped for however long, until you use or store them?
Cheers mang I'll try it next time
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Mateja


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bumholio] 1
#25647686 - 11/30/18 12:05 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a pretty nice size SAB 130L so I can work comfortably in there even tho there are lots of stuff in there. Usually a bunch of sterilized tools, sterile water and plates and jars and whatnot 
I just like some of the stuff rather inside the SAB than in open air if it's gonna go back into the SAB and especially hover over or be near critical sterile stuff. Then I'd rather not wipe them with a dirty alcohol soaked cloth or paper or whatever. I think the still air inside SAB is cleaner than wiping with alcohol
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja] 1
#25647689 - 11/30/18 12:10 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fill a wide-mouth 1/2 pint with hot water and set it on top of the plates with condensation.
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DreamReality
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stareatclouds said: Fill a wide-mouth 1/2 pint with hot water and set it on top of the plates with condensation.
It may take a couple minutes to completely clear up depending on how hot the water is and how much condensation you have. re-heat water as necessary.
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SunnyDayze
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DreamReality]
#25647813 - 11/30/18 03:13 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with you all. I did however find a great tool for me is a laser thermometer. Just point at the white patch on the bottle and when it reaches 42-44 c, go ahead and pour. All the other rules apply though, definitely stack and I don’t let them sit as long as Meteah but I usually pour at night and leave them till the next morning.
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Bumholio
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SunnyDayze]
#25647828 - 11/30/18 04:08 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool, hanks eryone
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SunnyDayze]
#25647857 - 11/30/18 04:59 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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SunnyDayze said: I agree with you all. I did however find a great tool for me is a laser thermometer. Just point at the white patch on the bottle and when it reaches 42-44 c, go ahead and pour. All the other rules apply though, definitely stack and I don’t let them sit as long as Meteah but I usually pour at night and leave them till the next morning.
I wanna add that you should swirl the bottle around before taking the temp. And try to get the laser right on the side/top of the liquid.
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