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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tiamo] * 2
    #23863947 - 11/24/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks for the help guys! Didn't realise PCs in EU sucked so bad. Looks like I have to import a PC. :thumbdown: Boatloads of money, but will be worth it. Gonna start saving up now, I can't wait to work on agar. Gonna do a few more runs of PF tek first to get the gist of all this tho.




This is gonna be fucking long, but it's something that I've experienced myself and I've been kinda looking forward to an opportunity to vent...

Definitely, PC's in Europe suck big time, no matter where you look. They tend to be very small and if you want something bigger it can cost you an arm and a leg, and still they aren't able to reach pressures beyond 8 psi in most cases.

The popularity of home canning in the US was what led to the manufacturing of pressure cooker/canners (AA, Mirro, Presto...) which happen to be perfect for mycology uses.
Home canning is not popular at all in Europe, so it wouldn't be profitable to manufacture them here only to satisfy a marginal demand. PC's in Europe are meant for cooking only :thumbdown:

Currently, pressure cooker/canner style PC's and sterilizers don't comply with EU regulations and safety standars (ludicrous I know), so EU imposed a trade embargo on these items. In layman's terms, pressure cooker/canners are prohibited in Europe.

As said, this trade embargo also applies to AA sterilizers, but with these you'd also need to produce a series of permits and a medical license in order to import it, so just forget about those.

I didn't know all this two months ago, so I ordered an AA sterilizer from Fungi Perfecti (paid via PayPal) and this is the last email they sent me after a long period of anxiety, uncertainty and lots of emails and calls. Take a look and don't be the next sucker.

"In accordance with our policy, we will not be able to refund you any part of the costs associated with this order".
So they refused to refund a single dollar of the 682 USD I paid. I could speak volumes about how shady and dishonest Fungi Perfecti was about this whole issue, but I will keep that to myself.

It was crazy... thankfully I paid with PayPal and resorted to the customer protection, even though I had little hope I could ever get my money back. I phoned PayPal about this and they told me that in these cases they could not do anything, because I needed to produce some permits to release the sterilizer from Customs, which I didn't possess. I was already resigned to the worst... I was gonna lose 647 euros (682 USD) and my dream to grow like a fucker shattered to pieces in that instant, I was gonna quit everything and never look back.

By some miracle, the next day I received an email from PayPal telling me that the final decision had been made and that they had ruled in my favor. I got a fucking full refund baby! Karma's a bitch Fungi, karma's a bitch...:shrug:

I must admit, I was fucking obsessed with owning an AA sterilizer or at least an AA PC but in light of the above I had to suck it up and start looking for shitty European PC's and THIS is the best I could find on ebay (ridiculously expensive) and I was gonna buy that fucking shit but paypal didn't allow me to complete the transaction for some weird reason, so I couldn't. The nerd in me took this a a sign and I stopped the search for shitty EU pc's.

Now, with all this shit, is it even possible to acquire an AA PC (or even Presto o Mirro) if you live in Europe? Fuck yeah baby :hehehe:

One night I decided to sit and meditate a bit, all relaxed and peacful and I had an insgiht, a very mundane revelation actually. I was very new to ebay but I kept seeing this thing all over the place buy I hadn't paid much attention to it:

Somehow, and without knowing why, I knew that'll allow me to fucking buy my AA PC. I researched a bit about the "International Priority Shipping" on ebay and found out that it is carried out by Pitney Bowes. Upon further research I learned that these guys are like the mafia of the shipping business and they can pretty much send a parcel to whatever country they wish, regardless of the import restrictions associated with a particular item.

These guys have Customs agents all over the globe if any issue should arise.
They change the harmonized code of a restricted item if necessary to pass through Customs. Plus, any item on Ebay that has "International Priority Shipping" has very cheap shipping costs and you pay a reasonable price beforehand for import duties and fees.

Long story short!? I was able to buy this beast, 941 PC, my preciousss...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #23864020 - 11/24/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What an awesome story, didn't think getting a PC for mycology was going to be this hard. Haha, yea, I did notice that icon because I buy off ebay a lot, you can import pretty much anything. :laugh:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tiamo]
    #23864047 - 11/24/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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What an awesome story, didn't think getting a PC for mycology was going to be this hard. Haha, yea, I did notice that icon because I buy off ebay a lot, you can import pretty much anything. :laugh:




This is the one I bought, very good price. But if you want something smaller I'm sure you'll find lots of kickass bargains on Ebay :goodluck:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/311655239597?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tiamo]
    #23864058 - 11/24/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How are fresh compared to dehydrated?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #23864059 - 11/24/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quick question for you all. Do you have separate rooms for fruiting vs where you store your jars?

Can I just do it all in one room?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #23864098 - 11/24/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You can do it all in one room if you are clean about it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: axis_tech]
    #23864099 - 11/24/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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How are fresh compared to dehydrated?




My best trip was off 26 grams fresh... Visuals so intense I could barely see, we had to lay down for the peak and it was hard to move.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: axis_tech]
    #23864120 - 11/24/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Alright thanks. Im thinkng still gonna do it in the 2 rooms as much as I don't wanna buy another space heater and outlet thermostat , but I don't wanna lose everything at once IF something happens :smile:

Thanks
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Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy.

Caps McGee said:
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: axis_tech]
    #23864284 - 11/24/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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How are fresh compared to dehydrated?



Fresh has an extra something.


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If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541

Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #23864302 - 11/24/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm waiting for a 941 in gramma's yard sale for 50 bucks that she got sold back when the canning trend was around.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #23864307 - 11/24/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A river cuts through rock, not by its, strength but by its persistence.  Well done :congrats:
Fuck fungi perfecti for being shady like that. Basically a lisence to print money by screwing overy it's customers.:sick:
You're story should be made well known for all European growere!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23864370 - 11/24/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have eaten 5 grams wet and it felt like a different beast but didn't really think to much about it afterwards. I will have to try it again


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #23864381 - 11/24/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright thanks. Im thinkng still gonna do it in the 2 rooms as much as I don't wanna buy another space heater and outlet thermostat , but I don't wanna lose everything at once IF something happens :smile:

Thanks
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When it comes to winter I try and keep what I can together so it will share it's own heat.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: axis_tech]
    #23864383 - 11/24/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have eaten 5 grams wet and it felt like a different beast but didn't really think to much about it afterwards. I will have to try it again



That must have been potent shit!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23864414 - 11/24/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It was just a nice buzzy body change. Just felt different i guess but I didn't put the two together


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: axis_tech]
    #23864466 - 11/24/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

5 wet grams is like half a gram dry. Eat 50 grams wet.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23864482 - 11/24/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was gonna shoot for 40 next weekend.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: axis_tech]
    #23864494 - 11/24/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Its one room just separated by a plastic sheeting and a zip up door works very well. Ill just open the door up thanks man

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Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: axis_tech]
    #23864535 - 11/24/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dude just do the full 50. Don't hem and haw about it. You know you want to, and you won't regret it. I finally did the infamous McKenna dose two weeks ago and it was just what the doc ordered :awesomenod:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23864567 - 11/24/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm no stranger to higher doses, 40 is just the number I already had in my head. Can't remember how it was fresh as that was like ten years ago but I have trouble eating dry. I usually have to grind them up and encapsulate them


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