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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycologist217]
    #25619774 - 11/16/18 08:29 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

something about eggs in a basket


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25619781 - 11/16/18 08:32 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Trying out a new soft agar method. Prepared the agar and left it in a media bottle. Dropped a wedge in there, letting it grow to make sure there aren't contams. Then shaking the bottle to let it fully colonize the agar to pour into grain jars.

Here's day 4 of the wedge growth in the media bottle. How long should I let it colonize before giving it a shake?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25619823 - 11/16/18 08:54 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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something about eggs in a basket[/quote

If you have clean spawn and properly pasteurized substrate it's impossible to get a contamination before your first flush...people using dirty spawn like crazy


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycologist217] * 3
    #25619860 - 11/16/18 09:23 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I'd rather spawn an iffy jar by itself and get a flush or two than toss it or risk a mono


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25619933 - 11/16/18 10:49 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Iffy Jars are a thing of the past when you are skilled with Agar and sterile tehnique and a good Liquid Culture method


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycologist217]
    #25619936 - 11/16/18 10:52 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Iffy Jars are a thing of the past when you are skilled with Agar and sterile tehnique and a good Liquid Culture method



Most people aren’t though which is why it has become such a popular method among newcomers
What tryptkaloids said though still stands true for even advanced cultivators who may not want to toss out spawn, for whatever reason.

Personally, I have found shoeboxes to work great for exotic species as well


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs] * 1
    #25619943 - 11/16/18 10:59 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Germs did you used to have a different user name? I recognize the avatar and signature but not the name


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycologist217]
    #25619947 - 11/16/18 11:01 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Those are new within the year, you have been gone longer than that right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycologist217] * 1
    #25619949 - 11/16/18 11:01 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Germs did you used to have a different user name? I recognize the avatar and signature but not the name



Nope I was just a noob who has learned much and experimented quite a bit in your period of absence
When I first came back you had just started the retail edible thread which i was following along
I’ve only ever worked with active species anyway


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #25619955 - 11/16/18 11:06 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I've been so caught up with the farm that ive been too anxious to grow M217-a since I started the farm last year. I finally decided to see if it was still alive this week and I was overjoyed to find that it is! I'm starting a grow this week so I should get one of my signature real time logs going in the next couple of days. My strain is so potent and such a prolific fruiter that I never really got interested in growing other varieties


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycologist217]
    #25619957 - 11/16/18 11:09 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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I've been so caught up with the farm that ive been too anxious to grow M217-a since I started the farm last year. I finally decided to see if it was still alive this week and I was overjoyed to find that it is! I'm starting a grow this week so I should get one of my signature real time logs going in the next couple of days. My strain is so potent and such a prolific fruiter that I never really got interested in growing other varieties



Looking forward to seeing more of your posts and pictures, on both sides of cultivation :thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25620325 - 11/17/18 07:11 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Nope I was just a noob who has learned much and experimented quite a bit in your period of absence...



:thumbup:

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I'd rather spawn an iffy jar by itself and get a flush or two than toss it or risk a mono



I agree.

I can get 100% BE, from paper spawn to paper, with 'added' bacteria, in bad fruiting conditions (low O2 and humidity).
And then another 50-100% BE outdoors, in a tub surrounded and cased in compost-paper-peat-lime.

In optimal conditions I can get around 150-200%, with mildly dirty spawn.
To get that many cycles I had to dunk and refresh the pH.


I have also noticed less bacteria when decent amounts of CaCO3 are added, but this is not conclusive.
It may be to do with calcium-oxalate production by mycelium, pH, and the CaCO3 its self.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #25620388 - 11/17/18 07:43 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Mycologist217 said:
Iffy Jars are a thing of the past when you are skilled with Agar and sterile tehnique and a good Liquid Culture method



Most people aren’t though which is why it has become such a popular method among newcomers
What tryptkaloids said though still stands true for even advanced cultivators who may not want to toss out spawn, for whatever reason.

Personally, I have found shoeboxes to work great for exotic species as well



I find shoeboxes to be more time efficient as well as the other benefits.  No messing with stuffing/taping holes.  No liners. 

I am prepping 70 jars right now which will all be shoeboxes


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
    #25620613 - 11/17/18 09:57 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I fit 15 shoeboxes stacked on one shelf. The same shelf holds one monotub.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #25620619 - 11/17/18 10:02 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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I fit 15 shoeboxes stacked on one shelf. The same shelf holds one monotub.




Yeah I have noticed the same thing. I can fit 12 shoeboxes in the same little spot my 56qt mono goes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb]
    #25620627 - 11/17/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

If you want bulk, shoeboxes are petty sweet. It's all about surface area.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #25620720 - 11/17/18 10:46 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

On the other hand one monotub is easier to maintain than 7 shoeboxes


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #25620727 - 11/17/18 10:50 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Fruiting chamber optimal Temp?
I'm new and about to birth some brf jars just want to make sure that they have best chance


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25620730 - 11/17/18 10:51 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

True. That was my only caveat. You can get away with zero maintenance if your spawn is clean and you have proper hydration and room temp. I treat my tubs the same regardless of size. The other benefit for shoeboxes is avoiding cross contamination. I use both. Only sketchy spawn has tripped me up so far. I don't mist.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
    #25620734 - 11/17/18 10:52 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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On the other hand one monotub is easier to maintain than 7 shoeboxes



I disagree. They both require basically nothing.


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