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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26455368 - 01/27/20 02:51 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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So just for the science of it, ive been working with woodchips and for sure mycelium runs faster on fermented chips than straight chips.  Im sitting in the airport off for 6 weeksbut im curious as to what leaving coir in water for 2 weeks to ferment would do for speeds. 

also

It would be interesting to have a shoebox competition, from 1 quart inoculation to first fruit speed comp using whatever method you want.




Ok I am doing this... But let's use some wine making additives for killing all the baddie.. going to supersoak a brick and add potassium sulfite to kill baddies. Let it off gas for a day or two and mix in some fermimax yeast nutrient and then some yeasts and let sit for 5 days. Then we can drain the coir and try mixing. I wish I had some clone jars already made to test the sub speeds with.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] * 3
    #26455854 - 01/27/20 07:30 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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Yup. I used them with reasonable success doing tamps. But could never get cosistant results.

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these fuckin oats.

heres wbs jar and an oat jar(on the right). both inoculated with the same clone LC.
the wbs was inoculated a couple day after the oats. same broth..

anyway the oats finished yesterday.

same thing with damn near all my oats. they colonize and start oozing metabolites like its sweatin the shit.

not my sexy bseed tho..

damn i miss you gurl.




Fuck oats:crankey:

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Jeszzie chrisses. Take a few years off and everyone hates OATs!  What happened Bodhisatta? I thought we had the oat oat gang gang going pretty well.

Well shit, I guess I will admit oats are more difficult to work with than rye berries. This is why I decided to move back to corn. I would link a pic but I'm cheep and maxed out my pic load. Guess it is time to roll up a supporter account again.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26457394 - 01/28/20 06:34 PM (4 years, 13 hours ago)

My filter had a felt like gasket on the entrance side I believe. I ended up just caulking the shit out of the metal rim of the filter when I made my box so it sealed.

I am not sure if the direction of air is as important as the rate of air flow. When I first built my flow hood I made a box and left like a 10 inch deep area between my blower entrance and my filter and it just wouldn't build up enough static pressure to be efficient. I have recently rebuild said flowhood leaving 2 inches between the blower entrance and the filter entrance and have had much better success.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26458593 - 01/29/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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My filter had a felt like gasket on the entrance side I believe. I ended up just caulking the shit out of the metal rim of the filter when I made my box so it sealed.

I am not sure if the direction of air is as important as the rate of air flow. When I first built my flow hood I made a box and left like a 10 inch deep area between my blower entrance and my filter and it just wouldn't build up enough static pressure to be efficient. I have recently rebuild said flowhood leaving 2 inches between the blower entrance and the filter entrance and have had much better success.




So do you mean like a ten inch gap above the filter? Or do you mean the fan was ten inches going backwards away from the filter? This is confusing to put into words lol. I was thinking of doing about a ten inch plenum, I think that’s the right word, basically space behind the filter that the blower blows into.





I made my first flow hood with 10 inches between the filter and back wall where. The box the air blows into, and I realized that I was not getting enough static pressure because my blower was to small. Decreased the space and increased the static pressure which gave me more air into the filter media.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26458919 - 01/29/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Your plenum needs to be at least as deep as your filter is wide. 6" filter needs
a 6" plenum minimum



Can you explain why this is needed? Especially since based on that I just fucked my whole flow hood up...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #26459101 - 01/29/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It has been my experience that those plastic lids are trash... I used them for year and struggled with contamination issues... I think the lids do not seal properly so I definitely agree with using Parafilm or some other sealing product around the lid to jar area. Good Call on that one.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tweeq]
    #26463077 - 02/01/20 05:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Does anyone still use Syringe Filters on their jar lids? I have had pretty good success with them. Just drill a hole and put a little gasket RTV makers down, plop it in and let dry.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26477326 - 02/09/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Happens when bacteria start to proliferate.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26479124 - 02/10/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Who eats that much sun dried tomatoes sauce? I do not think your gonna get the seal you want out of those. But you can try them out and tell us if it is pass or fail.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26479176 - 02/10/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Cool. That is to many Tomatoes for any one human..

Can you elaborate on your sterilized Substrate?? I am curious about what you mean..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26479265 - 02/10/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Oh ok, so using colonized spawn to mix into your substrate. I don't see why you couldn't use a liner in a mono leave the top of the liner and mix your straw or dust in with the spawn. Tie up the top of the liner for 10 days or so and then cut that out when fully colonized. I know for a lot of the oysters i have grown, when they spore its a freaking mess. This is why I like suspended bags with slits. I wonder if you can do logs of saw dust and bran in pantyhose for some of the wood lovers.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26480831 - 02/11/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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There was a pic a while back of this really thin sub with massive fruits, made me go "huh?"  Maybe it was photoshopped?  My experience is always thicker is better, up to something like four inches or so...

Would be interesting to do a tub and step it instead of taper...but it still doesn't prove it because I don't really know how far the myc transports stuff.





This can be your cool next project..... Hint Hint!

Using a clone, make 4 shoeboxes off the same master grain (at %30 hydration) 4 can be the control. Normal 4 inch sub and then do 1-2-3 to see if there is any difference in size, canopy and flushes overall.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #26481034 - 02/11/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So if the goal is Even Pinset and not to much heat that what your saying is that 3-4 is the sweet spot for shoeboxes.


  What about substrate hydration vs substrate depth in a mono compared to a shoebox? I am loving Primalsoup's hydration test of PE in shoeboxes at different levels 20+ 30+ 40 + 50+ 60+ 70+

  Like IMO I love the 30+ flush that Primal Produced, but would a 30+ 4" be better or worse than a 70+ 1.5 inch?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26481041 - 02/11/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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There was a pic a while back of this really thin sub with massive fruits, made me go "huh?"  Maybe it was photoshopped?  My experience is always thicker is better, up to something like four inches or so...

Would be interesting to do a tub and step it instead of taper...but it still doesn't prove it because I don't really know how far the myc transports stuff.



I’m pretty sure that thicker substrate gives better surface conditions just by its own metabolism, but check this out

Those are second flush cubensis, with full (not hollow) stems and they almost pushed the lid off a 27 qt tub. I noticed all of my second flush fruits are ridiculously huge, and I’m nearly sure it has something to do with water content after a flush. Even using the exact same genetics from the same plate, I just got a bunch of tubs that wouldn’t fruit past a certain point of dryness, so idrk how to replicate those results without already going through the first flush.

This was a 3qt tub so obviously he substrate was about 3 inches thick, but this type of shit even happens with my 1qt shoeboxes. It could very well be genetics
Just my 2¢ and experience.




So I am 6' 5" tall with 76" wing span, I wanted to share this picture because this was the daddy of TMF that I sent to Stromrider years ago.
 

Some people have said it was due to lack of FAE>.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dmppb]
    #26502130 - 02/24/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I never put foil over my SFD jars. Sometimes they'll have water pool on top, but it doesn't seem to allow enough water through to effect the water content inside at all (hence the pooling).
The one's that aren't cellulose are usually made of hydrophobic PTFE. And, because of the small micron size, they don't allow microbes to be carried through with any small amount of water that might make its way through.





ah , didn't know that , i've been struggling with bacteria in my jars ; i'm trying to consider all the angles

i'm getting at the conclusion that it's my PC cycle




Have you tried venting longer? I watch mine till it stopped spitting and is throughly venting a steady stream of steam for 1 minuet.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26510827 - 03/01/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah smoothcat. Keep that badboy around for printing as well! I got rid of mine after I made my floowhood and then ended up having to go make another one for dirty cultures and for printing in.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26519511 - 03/05/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dmppb]
    #26523449 - 03/08/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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are you using a presto 23?    you might want to add more weight. sounds like youre venting out all the water during the cycle




i am using prestos 23 , and i did add weight , my weights are old as fuck and maybe could be not functioning correctly ? now that i think about it they lost the little ring that's on the hole that fits the steam outlet ,

holy shit ted could that be it ? :eek: didn't think it mattered  but maybe it's letting too much steam all through out the cycle









My presto has a tendency to leak around the rubber seal for the lid. I have to remember to wipe it down with some form of oil.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26524853 - 03/09/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

20 PSI on a presto. No thanks. With thin aluminum I dont trust it. I can see on a AA which I also oil the metal to metal just for everyone that is enjoying this pressure cooker maintenance class this evening.

AA is a little more heavy duty, but 20 PSI  seems like a like of pressure if one of your seals gives out. I used to get that venting around my plug. Just good maintenance to replace seals every year or so.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26531132 - 03/12/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Can you take a print from one of the fruits and get another generation flushed. I heard it was a recessive Gene. But y'all know way more about genes and strains on this matter.


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