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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#24776448 - 11/11/17 05:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can't get a good pic to save my life but anyone know what this spot is it looks quite suspect to me and has what looks like a slightly pinkish tint in the center when held up to light.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#24778777 - 11/12/17 09:06 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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gizmo1 said: Can't get a good pic to save my life but anyone know what this spot is it looks quite suspect to me and has what looks like a slightly pinkish tint in the center when held up to light.

Can't see very well, but looks like a reaction to bacteria. That jar was inoculated with liquid, right? Sometimes, leaving excess liquid pooling at the bottom for some days can cuase bacterial problems if the grains weren't sufficiently sterilized. Or maybe you used agar to inoculate and I'm talking out of my ass 
It was g2g'ed and master was inoculated with agar. Grain was sterilized for 2 hours at 17psi after a full 15 minute steam venting session lol. None of the other jars had any spots that look like that. I agree sort of looks like matting due to bacteria. Except the pinkish tint in the center when held to light but maybe im just hallucinating that part lol.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24778828 - 11/12/17 09:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: pink yeast or bacteria
Maybe I'm not even sure if there is pink there lol my wife says there is no pink only white. I've always assumed anything pinkish was lipstick mold especially on Petri's if it starts pink it usually turns to red. I'll have to look up pink yeast and see what that looks like. I need to better my contamination IDing skills I've seen more than my fair share of contams over the years I should be a pro by now but im not lol.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#26033640 - 06/05/19 02:12 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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So serious ass question. When my lazy ass does sab work I will find myself resting my arms on the bottom of the arm cutouts am I causing some sort of air draft or some shit i try not to do this but always catch myself slippin.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ibuprofemin]
#26045799 - 06/11/19 12:06 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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ibuprofemin said: Anyone have any experience with this brand of coir?
https://www.amazon.com/FibreDust-006-Coco-Coir-Block/dp/B00DQ4P70A
Thats pretty damn expensive. Id say check your local walnart garden center they sell those big ass blocks for 5 buck. Id hate to recommend wally world but whay can ya do.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26048899 - 06/12/19 07:28 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: Hey I got a new stove and the ficking burners turn on and off my pressure cookers wont build pressure without the weight have you guys ever had this problem ? I have ran em for like 45 minutes and they stay at like 1 to 2 psi
I once had a hot plate I bought for running my pc that would turn off and on it pissed me off so I threw it in the garbage.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47] 1
#26048906 - 06/12/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: This was a fucking 1700 dollar stove Haha it's all energy efficient and shit .. looks nice and the people who buy the house will enjoy it but man I wont get one of these in the new place
Theres nothing like a gas stove imo. Shit you can even cook grains in a power outtage lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26051257 - 06/13/19 11:06 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can we get a thread started with old outdated cutivation merhods used in a side by side comparison to the accepted methods. Like cold shocked vs non cold shocked. Scratched vs not. Etc. Im just thinking these would be cool to see side by sides of. Im talking all outdated methods incubators, grows kept in dark you know the way it was done years ago. I would take the initiative but im not growing anymore and wont be for awhile unfortunatly. I just think it would be a fun oroject the community could work on together. Or maybe im just thinking out loud.
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gizmo1 said: Can we get a thread started with old outdated cutivation merhods used in a side by side comparison to the accepted methods. Like cold shocked vs non cold shocked. Scratched vs not. Etc. Im just thinking these would be cool to see side by sides of. Im talking all outdated methods incubators, grows kept in dark you know the way it was done years ago. I would take the initiative but im not growing anymore and wont be for awhile unfortunatly. I just think it would be a fun oroject the community could work on together. Or maybe im just thinking out loud. 
I think it would be fun to work on this project! Even if you're not growing if you could put together a thread that listed the shit that you want to see tested side-by-side that would be helpful.
For example, I don't really know bad techniques like scratching (wtf?!) because I've only been cultivating for a little over a year now. If you put a thread and people offered to run experiments like this side by side you could just cultivate it. Someone needs to do that work too 
Id definitley be willing to put work in too. Most of these methods are before my time in cultivation but im currently reading a book with some very outdated info that made me think about this. It talks about building gloveboxes, incubation, scratching, growing on popcorn, cold shock etc. Although this book is about edibles and gourmets so some of this may be relevant to other species im not sure.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Funguy]
#26062489 - 06/19/19 07:58 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mr. Funguy said: So.... I just inoculated 58 1qt jars, 10 at a time, (2 were too tight and I wound up breaking them trying to open them) inside of my SAB, that shit sucked. Can any point me in the direction of products for a DIY flowhood. Trying to go for under $500 total. I gots bills ya'll...
if I'm out of line for the CGD please let me know, apparently I've been unknowingly doing shit ....
leave your lids looser every time ive had problems with lids it was due to overtightening either before pc cycle or after while the jars are still HOT it doesnt matter the type metal or plastic both can be overtightened. So before you pc just back them off ever so slightly just a hair not a quarter turn or anything like that I hadnt had a problem with a stuck lids in years after doing this.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26081759 - 06/29/19 11:15 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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You dont have to pasteurize straw if you soak in lime? Curious I havent grown many edibles besides lions mane.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26081783 - 06/29/19 11:44 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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So this is specific to oyster cultivation? I have a oyster print ive been waiting on starting up till I get some petris and free space I would prefer to do some outdoor due to spore load of oysters.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dmppb]
#26082463 - 06/30/19 11:57 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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thoughts?
You dont really need lime if you’re pasteurizing. I’d go closer to 160 for an hour and skip the lime, or just buy a couple barrels to do lime soak in, no reason to do both.
you're right , i used to do it only hydrated lime in barrels , but the seeds kept germinating and gave me plants in my straw logs which caused a mess , heat is to control that ( besides pasteurizing of course ) and i'm gonna test using hydrated lime and regular lime to see differences , it's really not extra work to do both lime and heat cause you gotta put some kind of lime in it anyway for PH control , and you gotta fill it with water too , but i agree with you , just one method could be enough.
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gizmo1 said: So this is specific to oyster cultivation? I have a oyster print ive been waiting on starting up till I get some petris and free space I would prefer to do some outdoor due to spore load of oysters.
any oyster mushroom will do good on straw , except kings they need more nutes , therefore sterilizing your sub , oyster myc is so aggressive you'll be surprised , and for sure you can incubate inside and fruit outside ( weather permitting of course ) i drop the bags on the ground and cover with shredded wet straw as casing , you'll need protection against rodents and pests for sure though
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Sherlock Shrooms said: I know with poo that ranging my pasteurization between 140 and 150 for 1 hour has been more fruitful than going above 150. For sure. Frank, Ham, and Azure found this in their pasteurization journey too. This was just with poo though, not sure how it translates to straw. Although I imagine that poo is the ultimate test for pasteurization windows, at least for cubes
very interesting i haven't seen that , poo can trich easily when using above 10 % ish of your sub ime , i feel oysters and cubes can get the nutes from poo , while using very small qtys , ultimate pasteurization test is coffee imo
will make a post with results as soon as i can
great sunday people !
You know why coffee is so hard to pastuerize? By the time its spent its goes well over pastuerization temps and gets partially sterilized. This is why I say coffee is only good for adding trich to your substrate. Instead use weak liquid coffee if you have to use coffee at all.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#26085437 - 07/02/19 01:50 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: MEA should work for most everything... Even trying to clone a few epithelial cells currently... Reishi is cool, but takes FOREVER! Unless you're selling it, or extracting for personal tincture, I'd not go crazy with it...

Ive got a 2 year old reishi culture on mea im going to try to transfer it to a new plste tomorrow. Hope she grows. Still looks good.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26098068 - 07/09/19 12:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah oats suck always made me question my spawn I believe its due to the hull and maybe being more starchy leading the myc to look like that I switched to wheat and will never again use oats
I fucks with wheat but cant find it anywhere. Especially at a decent price im going to be usimg oats for the first time I like how they are uniform like wheat and rye. Ill see how i like them after I burn through this 120#s of them I got if I dont love them by then ill be looking for a good source of wheat.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#26098115 - 07/09/19 12:45 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Im concerned about people who can't get every kind of spawn grain to work well. What are you missing on the other kinds of grain you think is good if not that then have you always been insufficiency sterilizing. Then again i think some people are like fuck oats just because I exist and say i like them 
Hahahahaha I didnt know YOU like them maybe i'll throw them in the trash hahaha jk bod im going to see how I like them I hope they work well I can get them for a good price and prep is pretty easy.
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Sherlock Shrooms said: It seems a bunch of folks like wheat. I was having serious bacterial issues with rye athough it was organic rye. In the same run I made some spawn with oats and some with rye and all the tubs with rye contamed fast, I could see the wetspot in all those jars. I think the crop was just treated with endospores before harvest and I purchased it shortly after. Are wheatberries not prone to these problems? I suppose making sure its conventional may help avoid it. I could get wheatberries super cheap. More inoculation points too
If you can get them super cheap id suggest you try them out. Ive used plenty of wheat berries and never had a problem with them. Who knows you might like them and if not... well... no harm no foul?
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yeah oats suck always made me question my spawn I believe its due to the hull and maybe being more starchy leading the myc to look like that I switched to wheat and will never again use oats
I fucks with wheat but cant find it anywhere. Especially at a decent price im going to be usimg oats for the first time I like how they are uniform like wheat and rye. Ill see how i like them after I burn through this 120#s of them I got if I dont love them by then ill be looking for a good source of wheat.
I just bought 200# of oats yesterday for $72. I finally found rye and wheat after searching but the same amount would be $240. I’ll keep using oats for now lol
This is my reason for using Oats. I'd have to pay 2+ times as much for most other grains. For the few times oats haven't worked out well for me I know it was very much my fault. Most other grains also require more annoying prep work. I've never had problems with oats, especially once they're sterilized. That jar's question-ability for me had nothing to do with the oats.
Nothing wrong with using oats if you like them im going to be using them for my first time so idk if I like them yet. I know one thing I bought the "cleaned" oats that are supposed to be less dusty. I call bullshit lol dustiest grains ive ever dealt with and I grew up on a farm dealing with alot of feed grains lol.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#26112939 - 07/16/19 11:01 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#26114098 - 07/17/19 01:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: Fresh swabs are the only one's that have made it... Different sources, not used immediately... I postulate it's the degree of moisture present at the time of the swab... Really no way of avoiding infection eventually IMO... Had one that didn't grow ANYTHING... So it was completely clean! LOL
I had one I streaked 3 plates with and all 3 where completely void of any type of growth used the same swab in a 4th dish cut the tip off and left it in the dish. Got growth from it after like 3 weeks. Kept the swiped dishes too never saw so much as a bacterial spot in those.
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