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PatrickKn



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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: stzacrack]
#23528963 - 08/10/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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edit: nvm.
Edited by PatrickKn (08/10/16 05:44 PM)
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moonrockmushy
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: stzacrack]
#23528969 - 08/10/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Uhh yeah we are apes Great apes but apes nonetheless
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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: specialpeopleclub] 2
#23528975 - 08/10/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great thread Asante. I completely agree with this, and used to engage in a lot of it, either one on one or in big gang fights (they were fucking wild, really enjoyed them at the period of my life when I was involved in all that).
The problem is, on the street, unless it's moderated (as in the vid Ythan posted) there's always gonna be some sneaky fuck who cheats to win.
When it happened to me, I offered a guy out fair and square, and he declined. After I turned and walked several feet away he made a run at me and sucker punched me in the back of the head. I was out cold, only time I ever have been, so I rely on eyewitness testimony to know what happened next; he proceeded to stamp on my face a bunch of times and kick my head like a football several times before running off down the street.
The first thing I remember was lifting my head up off the pavement and staring at the huge pool of blood I'd been laying in. An ambulance turned up and took me to hospital where it took over a dozen stitches to sew me up.
I haven't had a fight since. I'm lucky I didn't end up brain damage. But that night that guy did something far worse. He took away a belief that was very dear to my heart. The belief that two humans, should the situation call for it, would have some honour in a fight.
The seed of the misanthropy I feel weighing on me these days first started to grow that night. What you suggest warms the idealistic feelings in my heart, but this world is waaaaayyy too fucked up to ever see this as reality IMO.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23528989 - 08/10/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dream of the day I can dial up police referee's and force a fair fight. Dishonourable actions like that would be punished by fines that get kicked back to the defendant. Close family members would be mailed a personal letter stating that such and such was being soft-headed. A mans paradise.
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stzacrack
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23529006 - 08/10/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Uhh yeah we are apes Great apes but apes nonetheless
Come on bro, I know you understood what I was getting at
Should we be allowed to rape and kill like wild animals?
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Angel_Above
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23529008 - 08/10/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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made me think of this guy
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moonrockmushy
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: stzacrack]
#23529022 - 08/10/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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stzacrack said:
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moonrockmushy said: Uhh yeah we are apes Great apes but apes nonetheless
Come on bro, I know you understood what I was getting at
Should we be allowed to rape and kill like wild animals?
Well philosophically we are all allowed that, as are other animals. What people are saying isn't that people shouldn't be able to fight, of course they can, but other people being expected to view all consensual fights and noble and a sacred right is sort of wishful thinking. We all try to influence other people's behavior. These days having a bunch of money is more important than being able to win a fight, so the people with the money win and the people who fight lose. Just the way of the world
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: stzacrack]
#23529237 - 08/10/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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stzacrack said:
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moonrockmushy said: Uhh yeah we are apes Great apes but apes nonetheless
Come on bro, I know you understood what I was getting at
Should we be allowed to rape and kill like wild animals?
Rape and murder have victims who don't consent to these things. Two people agreeing to a fight is a consensual fight.
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23529246 - 08/10/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If a drunk person starts a fight with you, and you fight back, does that mean you assaulted him because he couldn't consent to the fight even though he started it?
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Crystal G



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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23529254 - 08/10/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: If a drunk person starts a fight with you, and you fight back, does that mean you assaulted him because he couldn't consent to the fight even though he started it?
I guess it would depend on how drunk somebody is.
Because usually, if a person is so drunk they are falling over themselves, any respectable person would refuse to fight him.
They'd be like "Dude wtf, I'm not going to hit that guy, look at him, he's like a retard slobbering all over himself." At that point it's just pathetic to even fight somebody.
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Crystal G]
#23529262 - 08/10/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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PatrickKn said: If a drunk person starts a fight with you, and you fight back, does that mean you assaulted him because he couldn't consent to the fight even though he started it?
I guess it would depend on how drunk somebody is.
Because usually, if a person is so drunk they are falling over themselves, any respectable person would refuse to fight him.
They'd be like "Dude wtf, I'm not going to hit that guy, look at him, he's like a retard slobbering all over himself." At that point it's just pathetic to even fight somebody.
Fair enough.
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23529268 - 08/10/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol, that one with all the washing lines in view was great.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Crystal G]
#23529274 - 08/10/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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PatrickKn said: If a drunk person starts a fight with you, and you fight back, does that mean you assaulted him because he couldn't consent to the fight even though he started it?
I guess it would depend on how drunk somebody is.
Because usually, if a person is so drunk they are falling over themselves, any respectable person would refuse to fight him.
They'd be like "Dude wtf, I'm not going to hit that guy, look at him, he's like a retard slobbering all over himself." At that point it's just pathetic to even fight somebody.
Depending on the situation, if a drunk starts it with me, they are going to catch a beating. Being drunk as fuck and starting fights is what is pathetic. Any dumb drunk starting fights deserves an ass whooping. -edit cops don't do shit for aggro drunks in my area
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Asante]
#23529283 - 08/10/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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People should learn grappling so they can defend themselves in unarmed combat without needing to cause serious damage.
With Judo you can control a crazy person without hurting them for example
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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Moonshoe]
#23529298 - 08/10/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just as soon as I have the time, I'll be setting about learning Kenpō, for these reasons:
-Kenpo is a system of self-defense. Its techniques are almost entirely counters; typical schools of kenpo do not teach their students how to attack people.
-Kenpo is not about fighting. A Kenpo practitioner does not "feel out" his opponent. Once the kenpo practitioner is attacked, his aim is to end the fight however he can as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Souce
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Moonshoe]
#23529326 - 08/10/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It pisses me off when guys I want to fight are pussies. They know they can act like bitches because the law protects them from getting a beat down. I have a neighbor whom I would literally pay a couple of bills to fight me, but the little bitch is too chickenshit. I'd even let him have the first punch, or bum rush me. Fuck, if I put him in the hospital I'd even file it on my insurance policy like I'd injured him in a car wreck. Dammit. Rant done.
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: ByCoverOfNight] 1
#23529333 - 08/10/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay, tough guy.
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23529368 - 08/10/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: Just as soon as I have the time, I'll be setting about learning Kenpō, for these reasons:
-Kenpo is a system of self-defense. Its techniques are almost entirely counters; typical schools of kenpo do not teach their students how to attack people.
-Kenpo is not about fighting. A Kenpo practitioner does not "feel out" his opponent. Once the kenpo practitioner is attacked, his aim is to end the fight however he can as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Souce
Kenpo is really impractical for self-defense, it requires the use of a sword of a wooden pole
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23529371 - 08/10/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: We are primates. Fist fighting should be completely legal if the circumstances arent too severe. [Re: Crystal G]
#23529380 - 08/10/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You are thinking of kendo
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