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Oddball growth despite good conditions
    #23526204 - 08/09/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hi all,

Please have a look at this.  Colonization went as expected, no contams.  Humidity is 95% RH measured electronically and 91% with an analog humidity sensor.  Temperature is somewhat steady between 70 and 80 deg F.  Light used is 6500k as prescribed (few hours of light provided per day).  Perlite layer is roughly 3 inches.

Too many holes were made in the terrarium, some were taped closed to maintain RH.  The cake started bruising as can be seen in the pic, it is not trich.  So either crappy RH, or not enough misting but none of those factors are the problem as those factors are all catered for.  Any ideas as to what might be going on here?  The result is mutation (it seems), cracked/split caps and very slow growth.  Not sure what the problem is. 


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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: Ruffen86]
    #23526211 - 08/09/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Those cakes are dry.  Cut the foil down to no bigger than the cakes and get those cakes misted.

Do you have a pic of your fruiting chamber so we see if you have other items that need attention?

Don't tape up the holes, mist more regularly, the SGFC will take care of the RH, trust it.  And I see you missed the roll of dunk & roll.  The roll in verm is critical to set up surface evaporation on the cake, which creates the RH you need.


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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: KenInVic]
    #23526283 - 08/09/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

How can you say you have good conditions when that cake is visibly bruised from dryness and it hasn't even been rolled in verm?

I see Ken already addressed all that but, like, how do you assume the conditions are good with all these signs?


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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: KenInVic]
    #23526309 - 08/09/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Great feedback mate.  Thanks.

As requested, see below:

     

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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: Ruffen86]
    #23526337 - 08/09/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Ruffen86 said:
Great feedback mate.  Thanks.

As requested, see below:

     




You want to get rid of all that tape.  Do you have holes all six sides?  It looks like you don't on the ends and I can't see the bottom.  Properly drilled, your SGFC should look like this.



Once you are sure you have all your holes all you need to do is keep the cakes glistening and the FC will do the rest of the work.  You need fresh air which is why there are so many hole in a SG, to let lots in, even through the sides and bottom of the perlite.


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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: Inocuole]
    #23526348 - 08/09/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hi Inocuole,

You're right there.  My bad indeed.  Lesson learnt.

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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: KenInVic]
    #23526351 - 08/09/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Ken.  Understood.  Will fix as suggested :-)  Thx for the feedback!

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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: Ruffen86]
    #23527192 - 08/10/16 04:56 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I spent 8 months reading up on mushroom knowledge on the shroomery, fruited lots of pounds of mushrooms, started a small business selling edibles, before ever making a single post. I was scared of shroomery bullies. BUT you Ruffen86 take advice and guidance from these guys well, you posted your grow, mishaps and all, and said things like "you're right...", and "my bad...", and "lessons learnt". a good student will go far! best of luck!


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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: anthiawe]
    #23545880 - 08/16/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hi Anthiawe,

Thx for the comments mate.  I know Shroomery has a bad rap for guys being straigh to the point.  I'm not sensitive like that, and I guess since I'm asking for guidance from a "teacher" it seems inapropriate to challenge the teacher.  I also think many people take to the net and end up reading 2-dimensional text and taking it very seriously.  You sound like you've done well though by the way :-)

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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: Ruffen86]
    #23545885 - 08/16/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I'm curious about this reputation. I've even heard there's bad reviews of this place lol. People are ultra sensitive. And some just want to grow. I appreciate the later of the two and they're usually treated really well

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Re: Oddball growth despite good conditions [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23545917 - 08/16/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I think 90% of the bad reputation and arguments are a result of people having abysmal reading comprehension skills, and 10% thin skin

it's frustrating sometimes to realize how little mental bandwidth some people are working with, and they are often the loudest

OP has the right attitude, if someone like inocuole takes the time to point out the problem with your thought process , it's definitely worth taking to heart :smile:

BTW RH is not the ultimate factor as many new growers suspect. FAE is much more important than humidity (untape brah), and surface humidity/evaporation  too (like a verm layer, or casing provides), makes for a much healthier fruits

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