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Does this tub look ready for FAE?
    #23525545 - 08/09/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just want a quick set of opinions, I think it looks pretty ready from my time doing cakes but I'd rather double check with you guys:


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23525555 - 08/09/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It looks more than ready lol. Give it some FAE and light and you'll have an excess of.mushrooms in a few days. It looks perfect! :mushroom2:


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Nekobasu]
    #23525622 - 08/09/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Great, just stuffed it with polyfill and turned on the fan. I'll update this thread with fruits when the first flush comes.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23525765 - 08/09/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23526569 - 08/09/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Liner shouldn't be taped to the wall.  The purpose of the liner is to stick to the substrate and pull away with it when it shrinks.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23526621 - 08/09/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, in time you'll start working to get your liners trimmed up as nicely and flush as possible, but looks ready to fruit for sure!

No casing this time?

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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23526843 - 08/10/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would love to see how this turned out.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: psillyshrooms]
    #23526884 - 08/10/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You could have also just fruited instantly when spawning to bulk


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23527237 - 08/10/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes, in time you'll start working to get your liners trimmed up as nicely and flush as possible, but looks ready to fruit for sure!

No casing this time?

Update this thread when you get pins!




Is it common practice to add a casing layer after colonization?


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23527272 - 08/10/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23528453 - 08/10/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It helps to protect the cake. You can fruit uncased but you'll have to be more attentive towards humidity and spore drops. If you have a casing layer you can be more ''careless'' although I use that term lightly


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23528502 - 08/10/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

For some reason I just thought people would normally add their casing layer after mixing their spawn and sub and before letting it colonize.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23528547 - 08/10/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I do that a lot. :shrug:


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23528684 - 08/10/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think it all boils down to personal preference really rather than it being scientific.

For me I like to let it colonize and then cover it with hydrated vermiculite after it reaches full colonization. I like to keep tabs on it just in-case it runs through any problems

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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23528692 - 08/10/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I figure the sooner I put my top/casing layer on, the less shit gets between it and the substrate.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23528767 - 08/10/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That is true but I work with MS, most likely it's already dirty from the get go anyway so I just try to watch out for bacteria/metabolites/signs of stress/trich or whatever


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23528778 - 08/10/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've only ever cases my penis envy, but to my observation, the casing,Ayer provides an excellent platform for pinning.

As for colonization...I just stick with what I know. I might not be stretching the boundaries but I know xolonizing then casing at the point of fruiting works well for me. I planned on casing/fruiting one tub at the point of spawning this time but completely forgot about it at the point of doing it..,go figure


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23529045 - 08/10/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well I was a bit hesitant to put on casing due to it being in the bucket at room temp for 9 days as of now. Would the casing still be good for that duration? It doesn't smell too odd. I was thinking of putting in more boiling water or running it through my microwave.

I don't think it's too late to put on a casing layer but I'm not sure if my casing is past the expiration date or not :\.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23529079 - 08/10/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

EDIT; I misunderstood your question. Here's the proper answer, it isn't too late to use the casing just bring it to field capacity and case the mono. I still would like to know what casing material you are using. With coir and verm you shouldn't have any trouble. Other materials like peat I am not really sure since I never used it


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #23529224 - 08/10/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Coir and verm indeed, what do you mean by field capacity?


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23529263 - 08/10/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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what do you mean by field capacity?




I would ask something like "What do they teach you kids these days anyway" but you have the same reg date as me.  Seriously though, how'd you get in here without knowing about field capacity?

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Field capacity - Content of water, on a mass or volume basis, remaining in a soil after being saturated with water and after free drainage is negligible. Described as the state achieved when one can squeeze a handful of substrate or casing material hard, only to have one or two drops emerge.     




I like a very thin stream better than a couple drops though, with coir.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23529282 - 08/10/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

First time I've seen it brought up relating to fungiculture and didn't bother to look it up before running my mouth.

I wouldn't be in this hobby if there wasn't always something to learn (however critical or minute). I don't mind being exposed as a fool :grin:.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23529291 - 08/10/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23529313 - 08/10/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Pick up a handfull of sub and if you see a stream of water coming from it then it has too much water. Field capacity is when your sub doesnt have a stream of water coming from it anymore. Usually after a little squeeze


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23529319 - 08/10/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Im just gunna quit responding cause im always late to the party lol


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23529357 - 08/10/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ha, you're right on time, just hand wrung all the casing over the toilet.



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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23530123 - 08/11/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Super sexy bro you got this :super:


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23556378 - 08/19/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

First pin came in overnight, didn't even have time to spot any hyphae.



Seems like the fruits will not point straight up since I'm using my window for lighting.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23569932 - 08/23/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just about ready to harvest my first flush:





Question though: Would repetitive grain to grain transfers reduce genetic variance (from master to master) and give me a more even pinset? I started off with MS inoculation, so I am wondering if transferring from jar to jar work similar to agar wedge to agar wedge.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23570174 - 08/23/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

is this 66L tub? and how many spawn jars did you use for this tub?


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: oontribe]
    #23570675 - 08/23/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

86L and 9 quart jars.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23571042 - 08/23/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I understand your distaste towards such an uneven pinset as well :mad2: I use MS and this happens a lot more than I would like to admit. I got more even pinsets when I started to case my monos but even that was 50/50 and still got some weak ass flushes.

Always keep in mind the first flush is weak and the second flush is usually more bountiful

Unfortunately G2G won't do shit for genetics cause essentially what you're doing is just stretching out the same variant of mycelium, which is still MS and random, from one jar to another to have more of the same spawn but STILL MS

You need to do Agar work in order to get better results from your mushrooms. You should grab the healthiest, fastest, fattest and most naturally stable mushroom from your tub, spore print it and dumb those spores on an agar plate and start your work on mycelium from there


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Ashukh]
    #23571722 - 08/24/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Just about ready to harvest my first flush:





Question though: Would repetitive grain to grain transfers reduce genetic variance (from master to master) and give me a more even pinset? I started off with MS inoculation, so I am wondering if transferring from jar to jar work similar to agar wedge to agar wedge.



Ya they say after three generations of g2g basically your myc is bunk ... I think you can get some killer flushes with MS if you have conditions just right I haven't yet to achieve this but I think noc uses MS alot with hefty flushes


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23571750 - 08/24/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Excuse me?  I very very rarely do MS grows.  Transferring grain too many times increases the chances of funky shit like bacteria cropping up, since the original donor grains would be getting a little old by the 3rd or 4th gen of transfers.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23571755 - 08/24/16 04:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh I thought I seen in a thread you said you did I must of been high don't kill me noc haha ... "noc very very rarely uses MS grows"


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23571757 - 08/24/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just like jumping straight into clones. :shrug:


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23571763 - 08/24/16 04:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ya I've got a few clones from each of the four varieties I've grown so far still have 8 more to get haha if I knew it was so much work with different varieties then I would of only ordered three instead of thirteen


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23571794 - 08/24/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

And I think big tubs like yours tends to dry quickly, thats what I remember reading.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: oontribe]
    #23571809 - 08/24/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I did a 105 qt tub it didn't do well but my poly wasn't right and I had a fan blowing and I live on a desert climate I don't think the size has much to do with it drying if you have everything right I could be wrong


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23571841 - 08/24/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean by your poly wasn't right?

Op i think you need to make searches about the subject.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: oontribe]
    #23571876 - 08/24/16 05:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And I think big tubs like yours tends to dry quickly, thats what I remember reading.




It's smaller tubs that dry out quickly..


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: oontribe]
    #23572936 - 08/24/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Huh? I never said anything about poly... maybe I'm misinterpreting are you talking about my g2g question being poorly researched ahead of time?


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23572981 - 08/24/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I did a 105 qt tub it didn't do well but my poly wasn't right and I had a fan blowing and I live on a desert climate I don't think the size has much to do with it drying if you have everything right I could be wrong



Not you man.
And I think you should make a search about big tubs.


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Re: Does this tub look ready for FAE? [Re: oontribe]
    #23573694 - 08/24/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't have the right poky and it wasn't dialed in it was one of my first tubs


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