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First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia
    #23525191 - 08/09/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A bit of info about me:  I have taken lots of drugs in the past but only party drugs.  I have been to some pretty crazy places using ketamine and was hoping to get a similar but cleaner experience from using the truffles i purchased.

My reasons for taking the truffles are to gain insight about myself and to also get answers to my social anxiety...  Over the past year I have studied some 'non duality' and learnt some things spiritually.  Another reason for this journey into psychadelics is to experience ego death (I have experienced ego death a fair few times using ketamine although at the time I had no idea what it was)

Ok so I fasted until 3pm in the afternoon and then at 15 grams of the hollondia truffles.  I had the house to myself and would be undisturned for the day.

20 minutes in I am coming up similar to the feeling of coming up on ecstasy.  Light is brighter.

40 mins in I feel amazing and the house appears to be moving when i look out the window.  Music is enjoyable however I don't feel inclined to listen to it.

1 hour in i go and explore the garden.  I am a little un balanced but feel great.  I sit in the sun and notice the tiles on the patio have patterns running through them like rivers.  The garden feels different.

1 hour 30 i go back inside and lay on my bed.  The edges of the room where the walls and ceiling meet have tiny dots of light like they are seams with light shining through.  I close my eyes and i can see neon green dots and random shapes, but not massively vivid.

2 hours in I am still eyes closed and now I am seeing what I can only describe as some sort of vague tentacles like shapes of purple and pink.  They look slightly sinister but nothing that could freak me out.  There is also a real feminine energy I am feeling and for about 5 minutes I experience this a real euphoria and a connection with something that felt like it was reaching out to me, it almost felt like falling in love with a woman.  (I am male)  Was really strange but beautiful at the same time.

2 and a half hours in I go downstairs and sit in the garden again.  I am now starting to feel a little giddy and more confident with this new experience.  I sit in the garden and notice the birds in the sky.  I draw my attention to 1 bird.  All of a sudden there are about 50 birds flying in random directions in the sky.  I am puzzled to whether this is real or just me tripping.  This results in me starting to laugh.  i sit there laughing for about 20 minutes.  It is at this point I recognise a carefree character in me that doesn't some out very often.  I see this character and feel love for it.  I really like this person who I am in this moment and wish I could stay like this forever.

3 hours in and i am really hungry.  I put a pizza in the oven and watch television.  I am laughing at the silliest things on tv and feel great.  Pizza finishes cooking and i eat and wind down.

3 hours 30 I lay on my bed and enjoy the last part of my trip.  I feel incredibly comfortable in my bed almost like I am sinking in to it.

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Overall I it was a good experience and I gained a little insight from the trip however nothing groundbreaking.

I am willing to go much deeper than I did and perhaps scare myself moderately if need be.  If anyone could recommend any particular strain of truffle and dosage and any advice I would be appreciative.  :smile:


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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: dawgwilhunt]
    #23528231 - 08/10/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I am considering going for 30 grams of Atlantis truffles within the next few weeks.  Is this too much of an increase in dosage from my last 15 grams of Hollondia?  Would appreciate any advice.


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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: dawgwilhunt]
    #23538512 - 08/13/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice report with some good observation of the effects, I like the "vague tentacles like shapes of purple and pink" which is very typical of how my closed-eye visuals begin.

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I am considering going for 30 grams of Atlantis truffles within the next few weeks.  Is this too much of an increase in dosage from my last 15 grams of Hollondia?  Would appreciate any advice.




Potency can vary a lot with truffles so it's hard to know.

Doubling the dose can have a massive impact on the intensity, but if 15g was not quite strong enough to bring out vivid CEV then a 30g trip is maybe not too much of a crazy increase. I've done this kind of thing a lot in the past - I've upped the dose by 15g simply because that's how much you get in a pack, but sometimes it can catch you out and result in a total mindfuck that is very unpleasant. Those "vague" CEV can become something very intense and sinister that are menacing you as some kind of portal into another universe seems to opening inside your mind.....and then you start to think that maybe the extra 15g was a bad idea, or maybe a good idea if you don't mind being a little bit scared.....

So... in general I wouldn't recommmend doubling your dose, but if this trip was "not massively vivid" and you have experience with stuff like ketamine, 30g might be reasonable if you are aiming for a solid trip.

My personal strategy to cope with variable potency at doses of 30g+ is to re-dose after 90 minutes (or 60 minutes if I can't really feel much happening at that point). Sclerotia can be a bit unpleasant to each in large quantities so it also avoids the need to eat too much in one go. Usually I split the dose 50/50 and provided it's reasonably potent I usually get a long, strong voyage instead of something that comes on strong then fizzles out after 3 hours.


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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: Aldebaran]
    #23540436 - 08/14/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks man, that sounds like a great strategy. :smile:


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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: dawgwilhunt]
    #23542066 - 08/14/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Last time I was in Amsterdam I did 22 grams of the High Hawaiians, chewing thourughly and then downing with lemon juice to increase the acidity levels in the stomach.
Trip was Amazing!, and intense, really intense.

Eating chocolate will also intensify the trip.


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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23543113 - 08/15/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, those High Hawaiians are what I usually eat these days, the potency is pretty good and fairly consistent.

I find they do come on fairly intensely with a heavy, dreamy feeling - on a couple of recent trips I've ended up lying in bed with a strange feeling that the inside of my head is changing shape and that I'm being built into the side of some kind of structure I can see in my CEV.

This was a quick summary of a trip where (unusually for me) I was chilling out with a friend instead of my usual solo voyages:

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Heavy, weird feeling after 30 mins in front of TV. Needed to lie down, sinking into CEV for roughly 1hr+ then trip abates into mild euphoria for another couple of hours. Fun, trip came on strong but also tapered off quickly after peak.




The problem with this is that I find the initial part of the trip a little bit too strong - I prefer to drift slowly into subtle weirdness rather than falling asleep into my CEV with a heavy, drugged feeling. I was surprised how quickly the trip died down after the peak, too, it was like the trip put me into this heavy, dreamlike state and then when I felt more alert and "high" the psychedelic effects wore off.

I've tried tripping on 22g High Hawaiians with a redose of 15g dragon's dynamite (which are a bit weaker but more pleasant to eat) but I think the initial 22g is slightly too much (making it hard to redose at the ideal point of the trip before the 90 min mark) and the redose of 15g slightly too little:

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Hawaiians give a heavy and slightly nauseous, drowsy onset, visuals not particularly strong. Still a little heavy / nauseous at 90 min, but if redose left until 2 hours the trip plateaus and the redose becomes like a separate trip, a 'vapid mania' with thoughts about work e.t.c. Too easy. Missing THE FEAR




I also did another experiment of eating 20g dragon's dynamite and redosing with another 20g after 90 mins. The stuff was a bit weak, I felt fairly sober at the time I redosed, got some interesting CEV over the next 30 min but then thought the trip had died off....but then 3h 15min into the trip (1h 45 after redosing) suddenly I started seeing words in the carpet and felt pleasantly high with some good OEV for the next hour or so, with the trip tapering off gradually after around 4h 30min.

:dragon: :dragon:

It's quite tricky to manage redosing properly, on my next trip I want to try eating maybe 17g of the hawaiians first, then redosing with the remaining 5g, plus 15g dragon's, after 90 minutes.

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Eating chocolate will also intensify the trip.


I'm not sure if it has any real effect, even if in theory its a weak MAOI or something like that. The smart shop people used to tell me it would make the trip stronger as they offered to sell me a bar of chocolate with the sclerotia! I do eat a little bit of dark chocolate when I trip, but mainly because its very good at taking away the aftertaste of the sclerotia.

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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: Aldebaran]
    #23543131 - 08/15/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Could also be a placebo for "knowing" it would intensify by eating that.
Just like orange juice.

Actually I'll be in Amsterdam on February for a concert and some mushies fun with friends, thought about going higher than 22g this time, and I'm not extra familiar with truffles and you seem like you know the trick so what would you suggest?.

Haven't gotten nauseated last time.
Trip was full-on but could go a little higher.


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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23543248 - 08/15/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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thought about going higher than 22g this time, and I'm not extra familiar with truffles and you seem like you know the trick so what would you suggest?




In terms of different types and brands of sclerotia, it helps to stick to something where you have a reasonable idea of the potency, so I'd suggest taking the high hawaiians again.

The dosage depends on where you are taking them, I'd strongly suggest being indoors somewhere safe and calm for anything intense. You could either nudge the dose up a little bit and eat it all in one go (e.g 25g) for more intensity at the beginning, but if you wanted to try maybe 30g I'd suggest splitting the dose, either 15g + 15g, or perhaps 20g initially and another 10g as a booster after 90 min (waiting longer than 90min results in increasing tolerance so that a redose has less effect). Redosing gives a slightly different experience, a bit unpredictable; there's something kind of spooky about reaching a comfortable trip level and suddenly you can feel new depths opening up inside your mind as the redose kicks in...I wouldn't do it on low-dose trips but I like it as a way of "staging" high-dose trips as it gives you a chance to see how strong the stuff is before you commit to the full dose.

I'd keep the total dose below 30g, avoid the temptation to think "I ate one box last time so I'll eat two this time". I ate 2 boxes of this stuff (30 minutes apart) thinking that I had a big tolerance from a trip a couple of days previously, and it completely fucked me over despite many previous high-dose trips. All I remember is the surface of the hotel room door shimmering with tiny moving shapes like some kind of portal, and a horrible churning psychedelic zoo taking over my mind, the typical "oh no what have I done!" kind of trip. There were brief lucid moments, in one of them I wrote that I was "waking up onto islands of poisonous snakes" :lol:

For general info there's an old sclerotia quide I posted on an Amsterdam-related message board if you are interested. The types on sale and average potency have all changed since then but the basic info remains the same...

http://www.ignatzmice.com/WWWBoard/PHPBB/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15235

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Re: First ever mushroom trip 15g psilocybe hollondia [Re: Aldebaran]
    #23543263 - 08/15/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Good info man, thanks!.
I think I'll go with a 25g all together and just enjoy the ride :smile:


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