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Spazumtart
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The HydroShroom and universityscientificcom
#23524426 - 08/09/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay, so as I'm still a newbie to the growing of mushrooms.. I have ran into problems that I was taught on the way of the few grows and flushes I have done in the past. My main problem was my work schedule and the absence of me at home. I was curious on making one of the mono tubs that are self-sufficient to an extent but realized i would eventually realize i would forget a thing or two while making it.
I was surfing the web for the ways to make them when i came across this sketchy website that my spore supply site advertises "universityscientific.com" advertised off of "sporestore.com." After reading the reviews of the site and how many people got f**ed from it, I was obviously skeptical. I eventually made the daring compulsive buy even after weighing out my options with making my own. It came to $150. ($119.99 + $29.99 Shipping.)
After a day or two, I saw that the order status on their site has changed from "processed" to "Shipped." But couldn't find any email with a tracking number. Eventually after sending many emails to them worried about them f**king me over also, i managed to find it in my spam (oops). It was shipped UPS and only took about a week. When i received it, everything was fine inside, although their light they show in the picture, is not the same at all. They portray one that sits on top of the terrarium but they gave me a clip light you would use for reading and such.
On top of the light, their substrate jars seem half the size as normal half-pint jars that BRF cakes would use but this doesn't bother me. With that in mind, they also sent me that free scale that are added for purchases over $100. Even in that case, the scale is not even the same one they show on the site! Lmao!
After doing the math, the items that it came with all add up to $117 worth. I looked up each item to show you guys the difference in price you could pay. (THESE PRICES ARE WITH THE SHIPPING INCLUDED ONLINE.) **MOST ARE FREE SHIPPING ANYWAYS**
1. Tank -----------------$19 2. Heater---------------$25 3. Hydroton-------------$13 4. 6, Pre-sterile jars-----$25 (for theirs) 5. Light-----------------$12 6. Thermometer---------$8 7. Air pump system------$15
I do realize that you can make this exact same thing for alot cheaper! I am just showing you the same quality items for if you made this exact one without going through them. Judge it on your own if its worth it. $117 if paid separately on items.. Or $150 to just buy it all together. Im still counting the shipping in the $150 since the $117 price is with shipping also.
In my opinion, i find it worth it if you're unsure on the items to buy or don't know the exact things. I personally just needed something to help me out alittle for when I'm not home. This will help me out especially with my timing outlet to help control the light. (Not included in kit.)
-Spazumtart
Edited by george castanza (08/09/16 10:36 PM)
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
#23524447 - 08/09/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow how many threads start like this you don't need any of that just some perlite a large tote box with 1/4" holes in a 2" x2" grid pattern on all sides inc. Top and bottom Put your cake on tin foil or lids on the damp perlite mist with water fan with lid when starting to dry
Cost £15 don't know what that is in dollars but not much
Edit: Thought you were doing Pf tek
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Edited by mrmazdarx9 (08/09/16 10:03 AM)
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
#23524481 - 08/09/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This post is going to get crucified you know.
Just make a damn monotub or SGFC and cakes, it's just as self sufficient as that system. I seriously don't see how your system is any more self sufficient or easier.
Why the heater? Why the pre-sterile jars? By the way, anything marketed as "The worlds first hydroponic mushroom growing system." is guaranteed shit. There's no such thing as hydroponic mushrooms.
From what I can tell it's just a weirder, shittier Poor Man's Pod FC.
https://www.shroomery.org/9047/Poor-Mans-Pod
You could use the money to buy a decent pressure cooker instead.
Not trying to be smarmy, but this is ill-conceived and I hate to see you waste your money.
Edited by Greg (08/09/16 10:19 AM)
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
#23524504 - 08/09/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whether or not people don't like the post, I'm just posting it to show people the option. Im not promoting it, nor am i saying its better in any way. Yes, their are cheaper and better ways to go with growing. I've seen a lot of bad reviews of universityscientific and sporestore and this is my experience. I don't believe universityscientific is 100% reliable but i know sporestore is the only place i will buy spores whenever i get a new strain. They can crucify me, thats fine. Im just adding my information to the general public for others to have their own thoughts on.
Not to mention, the lack of actual experiences of the site in its own. Many of the posts on these types of sites are obvious its the website promoting themselves.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
#23524522 - 08/09/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stop posting vendors Smells very troll like as all your other grows are in a bucket thing and a weird white box
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg] 1
#23524567 - 08/09/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whatever someone is growing, always looks 'the bomb' when it looks like it's on life support!
The best way to grow something is to dumb it down completely. More complicated sure as hell doesn't yield better results. It's like all the stupid shit about growing weed. The old ways do just great!
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart] 1
#23524598 - 08/09/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That setup is doomed to contaminate over and over again.
Please don't waste your hard earned money on this type of crap.
These setups feed off of the assumption that you can buy a great pre-made grow set up. Don't be the next sucker!
If you want an easy fool proof way of growing shrooms you should buy a grow bag, any of these other setups are just a waste of money because with the smallest amount of research you could build a much better set up at a fraction of the cost.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: george castanza]
#23524633 - 08/09/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just want to point out that this is the caliber of poster who puts me on ignore. that is all.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23524637 - 08/09/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I just want to point out that this is the caliber of poster who puts me on ignore. that is all.
Seems like people like this don't want advice, they want reassurance for their dumb decisions.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
#23524643 - 08/09/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I think this is the reply that made him click ignore, regarding his fruiting chamber and pins falling off his cakes:
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Inocuole said: Not enough holes, didn't dunk and roll, stop handling the cakes so much if they fall off.
He never wanted advice, he's looking for a bunch of yes men to tell him he's doing a good job.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
#23524644 - 08/09/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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which they will never get...
he got got.
it's also sad how some of these people like this can never admit they made a mistake.. you got got.. it happens.. just get over it, see that you fucked up, learn from it, and move on.. but instead they get all butthurt and start acting like fools.. some people just can never admit they are wrong.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23524701 - 08/09/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Yeah I think this is the reply that made him click ignore, regarding his fruiting chamber and pins falling off his cakes:
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Inocuole said: Not enough holes, didn't dunk and roll, stop handling the cakes so much if they fall off.
He never wanted advice, he's looking for a bunch of yes men to tell him he's doing a good job.
on point again. been coming across your posts here and there and always straightforward and true.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
#23524737 - 08/09/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spazumtart said: I'm still a newbie ... I have ran into problems ... I was surfing the web ... when i came across this sketchy website that my spore supply site advertises ... After reading the reviews of the site and how many people got f**ed from it, I was obviously skeptical. I eventually made the ... buy ... It came to $150. ($119.99 + $29.99 Shipping.)
This is how the beginning of the post read, in this users head.
You could have saved yourself $150 and a headache by using the search feature; you would have discovered (for free) that grow kits are garbage. Grow kits exist for one reason, to separate people from their money.
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Spazumtart said: My main problem was my work schedule and the absence of me at home. I was curious on making one of the mono tubs that are self-sufficient to an extent but realized i would eventually realize i would forget a thing or two while making it.
What does this even mean? If you follow the instructions, you shouldn't forget anything. If your memory is really that bad, print the instructions out or keep them up on your phone as you go along.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23524785 - 08/09/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I just want to point out that this is the caliber of poster who puts me on ignore. that is all.
This is the kind of off topic posting that probably gets you put on Iggy.
Nobody likes being told they are wrong. Nobody likes getting ripped off when they spend their money. Not that your post is not 100% accurate, it's just the delivery that could be a little more friendly or if you prefer maybe just not so condescending. I don't know if you're trying to come off that way or maybe it's just your personality and you're not doing it on purpose. If the later is the case, I can certainly relate.
Sometimes irl people mistake my legitimate statements as smartass condescending remarks because of the way I deliver them. This usually results in my having to explain my remarks to the individual if I want them to still like me, which I have become quite good with.
Granted there are plenty of hard heads out there that are insistent on doing it the hard way.
I used to be very much like that as a youngster, however at some point I learned one of the most valuable lessons of my life, it's OK to learn from someone else's mistake.
The old adage "A hard head makes for a soft ass" could possibly be of use to the op, or anyone else who comes along to read this thread.
Not saying that going out of your way to be nice to people who post in this forum would help them take your advice, but it may cut down on the Iggy's. I'm sure you don't care that some butthurt newbie with tub full of contamination has put you on ignore, but most members are not priding themselves on numbers like that.
Since this thread is probably doomed to be dumped or locked at some point anyway since threads like this rarely go well, I figured I would chime back in with two more pennies.
I would also mention that the longer a business has been in business the better off you will be to give them your business so you don't wind up getting the business. This is especially true for spore suppliers. I don't recommend any sponsor over any other sponsors, common sense would tell you that a business with few complaints that has been operating many years is the business you want to give your business.
Under no circumstances should you send your money out to a non shroomery vendor if you can avoid it.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: george castanza]
#23524848 - 08/09/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not entirely interested in people liking me though. I'm interested in providing facts and learning new ones. Dressing up the truth to be more palatable is something I do when I'm getting paid to talk.
However, if one were to go solely by my reception here, it appears there are a higher percentage of folks who appreciate candidness than those who get their feelings hurt over it. The entire purpose of my hall of shame is to illustrate how putting people on ignore because they hurt your feelings, is a symptom of life problems that don't stop there, no, for if you look, you'll see that not a single one of them can put out a decent grow. They all struggle with basic concepts, wriggling and squirming their way around the need to follow simple instructions.
It's a matter of which information people are willing to accept, and using that as a measure of their maturity. To proudly proclaim "I don't want this good information, and in fact, I never want to see any more information like it" is to put a stamp on yourself, illuminating your willful ignorance for all to see. Yeah I'm a bit of a prick for popping in threads posting off topic stuff but drudging through the same boring posts every day is a little bland. We could say this whole post is off topic, but if we were going by what's on topic, we'd be discussing heaters and air pumps and hydroton, and I don't think the community would benefit from that. I don't see it going anywhere good though. And I'm certainly not deluded into thinking I'm helping its case. Might just have to put on our fancy shoes and do the
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23524857 - 08/09/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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the problem is people take things so personally when its not a personal attack. they cant hear what is said, because they get so butthurt over their own ignorance/faults. it has nothing to do with anyone besides themselves. they are just mad at themselves for being wrong or making a mistake or getting got by a vendor or whatever the case is and projecting it onto others.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23524865 - 08/09/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agreed.
For this post to remain on topic all the replies would be "don't use that" , "don't buy that" , or "use the search engine"
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23524867 - 08/09/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have to agree from what I've seen you can be a bit blunt at times.
I also think that people who have an easier time finding the ignore button than they do finding the search function deserve every bit of it.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
#23524874 - 08/09/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: the problem is people take things so personally when its not a personal attack. they cant hear what is said, because they get so butthurt over their own ignorance/faults. it has nothing to do with anyone besides themselves. they are just mad at themselves for being wrong or making a mistake or getting got by a vendor or whatever the case is and projecting it onto others.
I wouldn't call it a problem so much as an unavoidable fact of life .
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
#23524875 - 08/09/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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sure, he's blunt.. but is that ever a reason not to accept a fact? or advice?
but i mean... it is unavoidable...
all it really takes it for a person to drop their egotism/narcissism/self pity.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
#23524879 - 08/09/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spazumtart said:
Not to mention, the lack of actual experiences of the site in its own. Many of the posts on these types of sites are obvious its the website promoting themselves.

yes a bunch of people coming here for free to tell you to just go to your local hardware store save 90% of your money and get 10x the results. on a website that has a metric fuckload of actual experiences.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: bodhisatta]
#23524881 - 08/09/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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its clear that he has never read a single thread, or even a post on the shroomery. for the almost 3 years that he has been a member
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
#23524883 - 08/09/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mupetmower said:
all it really takes it for a person to drop their egotism/narcissism/self pity.
That is very sage advice that we can all benefit from right there.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
#23524891 - 08/09/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If someone is putting in real visible effort then I'll type them up a paragraph. If they aren't, then I'll shoot em a quick few words that summarize the problem. The problem is, people who put in effort would probably be able to use those summarizing words, while the person who can't use the search function would surely like to be spoonfed a paragraph. I'm not too interested in giving people what they expect though. Put in effort and you'll get back more than you expect. Expect everyone else to do it for you, and you'll get less than you expect. Pretty basic life stuff but it's a major theme here.
Those "short few quick words" sure do set people off though. I don't know why that is. I can give them the right answer and they'll act like my time was better spent not answering at all.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: george castanza]
#23524893 - 08/09/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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dont mock me!
hah just kidding.. but really. we all should just give in to ego death. =p

i do agree, though, we all have moments.. but it's no excuse. but enough of all that.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23524902 - 08/09/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah yes, it is amazing how much you can learn in this hobby that will transcend to other aspects of life. Mayhaps the reason so many learn what they came here to learn but also stick around to help their brethren.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
#23524986 - 08/09/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not talking about any one person in specific, but to the general concept at hand...
For better or for worse all people seem to care greatly about being treated with respect, some to a greater degree than others, but we all are sensitive to it, were not robots without feelings.
Sometimes I've heard it said that these people should not be so sensitive, yet when these same people are disrespected they tend to go into melt mode themselves. So what happened to not being sensitive? Everytime I have seen someone pose this argument it turns out to be a double standard.
I am frequently temped to come down on people like a ton of bricks here at the shroomery, which I have done a few times and I apologize to anyone whom I've done that to. It takes real effort to restrain myself sometimes.
I try not to because, for one thing retaliation is almost guaranteed, and everyone is pretty much bound to having a miserable time as a result. It is a great quick release of frustration and some people make a game out of it, and with the anonymous nature of the internet the consequences are not anything like in real life.
For me the bottom line is, if we all treat eachother like we deserve no respect then there are a lot of hurt feelings and the world is a pretty miserable place to live. I think the world is a lot more fun when we value each others feelings, feeling can't be gotten rid of, it's just how were built.
my 2 cents... Probably a minority opinion but: it's fun in the short term to let it all hang out but more 'fun' in the long term to show consideration. Plus noobs are more apt to listen when you don't bash them with the facts. If your true objective is to get people to see the error of their ways, being blunt at all times is not always the most efficient way to go about it.
You catch more flies with honey or some such thing.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: invitro]
#23525013 - 08/09/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, we all follow the golden rule in our own way. When I look back, I don't appreciate it at all how nice people were when they gave me bad information and wasted months or years of my time. What kind of mood they were in or their tone had no effect on my success, whereas the content of their posts did. So, you know, forgive me for being objective about it.
Clearly it takes all kinds around here.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23525045 - 08/09/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Being as green as they come, when it was time to seek help from the community it didn't make a lick of difference whether or not the people offering advice were nice or not. What mattered was the value of their opinion. Whether or not a user chooses see past the words on the screen and glean useful information from the post overall, is up to them. If a user is going to get all caught up on whether or not a user was nice to them... they likely aren't well suited for the internet in general, not just this site.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23525070 - 08/09/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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We see few to none melt downs in the gourmet forum, I dont know why that is, but there is definitely a polar opposite in civility and personas. Think about being a teacher in a school, you are not going to get through to your students by being condescending and a smart ass, those are usually the teachers that hate their own life and takes it out on their students, thus students hate them and close themselves off from absorbing any knowledge that teacher may have to share. You guys are teaching a sub culture hobby that attracts a lot of students with the mentality of high schoolers, with that being said the same principles in any aspect of teaching should applied.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: h0ldthedoor]
#23525104 - 08/09/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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h0ldthedoor said: Being as green as they come, when it was time to seek help from the community it didn't make a lick of difference whether or not the people offering advice were nice or not. What mattered was the value of their opinion. Whether or not a user chooses see past the words on the screen and glean useful information from the post overall, is up to them. If a user is going to get all caught up on whether or not a user was nice to them... they likely aren't well suited for the internet in general, not just this site.

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Marty Mycfly said: We see few to none melt downs in the gourmet forum, I dont know why that is, but there is definitely a polar opposite in civility and personas. Think about being a teacher in a school, you are not going to get through to your students by being condescending and a smart ass, those are usually the teachers that hate their own life and takes it out on their students, thus students hate them and close themselves off from absorbing any knowledge that teacher may have to share. You guys are teaching a sub culture hobby that attracts a lot of students with the mentality of high schoolers, with that being said the same principles in any aspect of teaching should applied.
Probably because you don't have to deal idiot drug dealers trying to make a quick buck and kids hiding there useless grows from their parents
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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mrmazdarx9 said: Probably because you don't have to deal idiot drug dealers trying to make a quick buck and kids hiding there useless grows from their parents
This. If you aren't here on the front lines, seeing the kind of shit that gets posted in here, the bullshit hypotheticals that come up, etc, then you aren't really in a position to judge why things are how they are in here. If we could only be so lucky as to only have people who are interested in mycology posting here. Fact is, the place is a magnet for scummy people doing things they shouldn't be. Those of us who've been here a while are pretty passionate about doing what we do discreetly and safely and being mindful about how our actions make waves in the world. It shouldn't have to be the way it is, but it is, so as a result, there will be people who are tired of telling kids not to grow in their parents house. This isn't a measure of that person's virtue because these people are not all our students. We are not all teachers. As I said, none of us are being paid to share any information we have, we just do it. That's the act of niceness. Being nice is making sure the info you're spouting off actually works. I don't get many thanks for that though, hell I'm lucky if my advice doesn't get me insulted by some kid who can't get his GED some days.
I know that knowing my shit and being nice aren't mutually exclusive but you have to understand, I don't actually benefit from people following my advice or not. I don't have to keep a huge bookmark list full of links to point people in the right direction. My teks might not be great but I still took the time to write them. People are nice because of what they do, not how they say things.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
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that was a fast moving thread! great debate guys. no serious name calling and perspectives laid out well. i'm with inocuole on this one..
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: anthiawe]
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MC would be awesome if it could go like GMM but there's just too many people looking for a quick buck, under age, both, which is unacceptable so its hard to deal appropriately
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: bodhisatta]
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You guys are right, in that kind of atmosphere it would feel parasitic sometimes. Innocule, you are right about the "front line" it does get pretty ridiculous up here, I for one would love to see more discussions than questions up here, like you guys say, it's all here in the search engine, I would love to engage in more detailed discussions in mycology that the whole serious community can have part in, where MC meets GGMM. It seems that MC is used as the noob forum by every noob.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Marty Mycfly]
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I think its a case of most noobs just want drugs the people that stick around because they love mycology love growing realise you can't realisticly eat psilocybes all day everyday gotta go to work at some point so they start on edibles tasty and can be used everyday, thats the way I see it. It my next logical step I'm just considering what to grow really want to also grow Ganoderma lucidum because they look incredible
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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mrmazdarx9 said: I think its a case of most noobs just want drugs the people that stick around because they love mycology love growing realise you can't realisticly eat psilocybes all day everyday gotta go to work at some point so they start on edibles tasty and can be used everyday, thats the way I see it. It my next logical step I'm just considering what to grow really want to also grow Ganoderma lucidum because they look incredible
True! And then the next step is realizing you can use your knowledge and passion for mycology to actually make a living with gourmet mushrooms, it's a ton of work, but what a great job. Everything we do is so similar up to fruiting substrates, crossing that next line is nothing. I always wondered about the great TC's from up here, like Frank for instance, what a great grower in all aspects of mycology, I can almost guarantee that guy has a successful gourmet operation right now, hence not really being around here for a while and seeing towards the end of his tenure seemed to be heavily moving into gourmet mushrooms. I don't really know if that's the case but I would bet money on it.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Marty Mycfly]
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It would be nice to make a legit living from this but I used to love cars before I became a mechanic, that would would be my worry ruining another hobby for myself, the flip side is the old saying if you love what you do you'll never work a day in your life
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
#23531611 - 08/11/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know that knowing my shit and being nice aren't mutually exclusive but you have to understand, I don't actually benefit from people following my advice or not. ....... People are nice because of what they do, not how they say things.
Firstly whether you realize it right now or whether you don't, you do benefit from helping others.
What and how you say something is undeniably an action and a choice on your part. So what you say is in fact something that you are doing.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: george castanza]
#23531838 - 08/11/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay, well, as valid a technicality as that may be, a simple "it's logical so it must be so" is rarely enough for a person to change their whole paradigm and how they interact with others.
And hell, why would I want to when this is the kind of feedback I get?
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Is very knowledgeable and doesn't take shit from dicks.
But gives great advice and definitely understands mycology and knows what he is talking about. is always good to read you in threads! Good vibes bro 
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I like your no bullshit attitude. Keep saying it like it is!
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enjoying every post. informative guy and defends his positions articulately and with good sense. right on
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You always give advice that people need to hear, not necessarily what they want to hear, which I consider a great deed to the community. You also manage to slip in a fair amount of humor and a distinct attitude to the nature of your posts. Truly a unique member, glad to have you around dude! 
Apparently it's not too much of an issue, or even further, perhaps its something that people value. I get your point and all, but I'm pretty far invested in just being me and doing my thing. The possibility of upsetting someone with a joke every now and then is a cost I'm willing to accept in exchange for the feeling of liberation that comes with not bothering censoring myself at all. Given that, I think I do a half decent job of keeping it reined in.
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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
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Innoc made me nearly drop a cake on my husky I've took it off innoc when I first came here then I followed the advice in the what at first seemed harsh post then I realised he knew what he was doing and his dry sense of humour
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