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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
    #23524879 - 08/09/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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  Not to mention, the lack of actual experiences of the site in its own.  Many of the posts on these types of sites are obvious its the website promoting themselves.




:smbfacepalm:

yes a bunch of people coming here for free to tell you to just go to your local hardware store save 90% of your money and get 10x the results. on a website that has a metric fuckload of actual experiences.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23524881 - 08/09/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

its clear that he has never read a single thread, or even a post on the shroomery. for the almost 3 years that he has been a member :lol:


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
    #23524883 - 08/09/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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all it really takes it for a person to drop their egotism/narcissism/self pity.




That is very sage advice that we can all benefit from right there.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
    #23524891 - 08/09/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If someone is putting in real visible effort then I'll type them up a paragraph.  If they aren't, then I'll shoot em a quick few words that summarize the problem.  The problem is, people who put in effort would probably be able to use those summarizing words, while the person who can't use the search function would surely like to be spoonfed a paragraph.  I'm not too interested in giving people what they expect though.  Put in effort and you'll get back more than you expect.  Expect everyone else to do it for you, and you'll get less than you expect.  Pretty basic life stuff but it's a major theme here.

Those "short few quick words" sure do set people off though.  I don't know why that is.  I can give them the right answer and they'll act like my time was better spent not answering at all.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: george castanza]
    #23524893 - 08/09/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

dont mock me!

hah just kidding.. but really. we all should just give in to ego death. =p

:mindblown:


i do agree, though, we all have moments.. but it's no excuse. but enough of all that.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23524902 - 08/09/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ah yes, it is amazing how much you can learn in this hobby that will transcend to other aspects of life. Mayhaps the reason so many learn what they came here to learn but also stick around to help their brethren.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
    #23524986 - 08/09/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not talking about any one person in specific, but to the general concept at hand...

For better or for worse all people seem to care greatly about being treated with respect, some to a greater degree than
others, but we all are sensitive to it, were not robots without feelings.

Sometimes I've heard it said that these people should not be so sensitive, yet when these same people are
disrespected  they tend to go into melt mode themselves.  So what happened to not being sensitive?  Everytime I
have seen someone pose this argument it turns out to be a double standard.

I am frequently temped to come down on people like a ton of bricks here at the shroomery, which I have done a few times
and I apologize to anyone whom I've done that to.  It takes real effort to restrain myself sometimes.

I try not to because, for one thing retaliation is almost guaranteed, and everyone is pretty much bound to having a
miserable time as a result.  It is a great quick release of frustration and some people make a game out of it,
and with the anonymous nature of the internet the consequences are not anything like in real life.

For me the bottom line is, if we all treat eachother like we deserve no respect then there are a lot of hurt feelings
and the world is a pretty miserable place to live.  I think the world is a lot more fun when we value each others
feelings, feeling can't be gotten rid of, it's just how were built.

my 2 cents... Probably a minority opinion but: it's fun in the short term to let it all hang out but more 'fun' in
the long term to show consideration.  Plus noobs are more apt to listen when you don't bash them with the facts.
If your true objective is to get people to see the error of their ways, being blunt at all times is not always the most
efficient way to go about it.

You catch more flies with honey or some such thing.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: invitro]
    #23525013 - 08/09/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well, we all follow the golden rule in our own way.  When I look back, I don't appreciate it at all how nice people were when they gave me bad information and wasted months or years of my time.  What kind of mood they were in or their tone had no effect on my success, whereas the content of their posts did.  So, you know, forgive me for being objective about it.

Clearly it takes all kinds around here.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23525045 - 08/09/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Being as green as they come, when it was time to seek help from the community it didn't make a lick of difference whether or not the people offering advice were nice or not. What mattered was the value of their opinion. Whether or not a user chooses see past the words on the screen and glean useful information from the post overall, is up to them. If a user is going to get all caught up on whether or not a user was nice to them... they likely aren't well suited for the internet in general, not just this site.

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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23525070 - 08/09/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We see few to none melt downs in the gourmet forum, I dont know why that is, but there is definitely a polar opposite in civility and personas.
Think about being a teacher in a school, you are not going to get through to your students by being condescending and a smart ass, those are usually the teachers that hate their own life and takes it out on their students, thus students hate them and close themselves off from absorbing any knowledge that teacher may have to share.
You guys are teaching a sub culture hobby that attracts a lot of students with the mentality of high schoolers, with that being said the same principles in any aspect of teaching should applied.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23525104 - 08/09/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Being as green as they come, when it was time to seek help from the community it didn't make a lick of difference whether or not the people offering advice were nice or not. What mattered was the value of their opinion. Whether or not a user chooses see past the words on the screen and glean useful information from the post overall, is up to them. If a user is going to get all caught up on whether or not a user was nice to them... they likely aren't well suited for the internet in general, not just this site.

:2cents:




I was nice to you:grin:
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We see few to none melt downs in the gourmet forum, I dont know why that is, but there is definitely a polar opposite in civility and personas.
Think about being a teacher in a school, you are not going to get through to your students by being condescending and a smart ass, those are usually the teachers that hate their own life and takes it out on their students, thus students hate them and close themselves off from absorbing any knowledge that teacher may have to share.
You guys are teaching a sub culture hobby that attracts a lot of students with the mentality of high schoolers, with that being said the same principles in any aspect of teaching should applied.



Probably because you don't have to deal idiot drug dealers trying to make a quick buck and kids hiding there useless grows from their parents


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23525163 - 08/09/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:  :popcorn:


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23525164 - 08/09/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Probably because you don't have to deal idiot drug dealers trying to make a quick buck and kids hiding there useless grows from their parents




This.  If you aren't here on the front lines, seeing the kind of shit that gets posted in here, the bullshit hypotheticals that come up, etc, then you aren't really in a position to judge why things are how they are in here.  If we could only be so lucky as to only have people who are interested in mycology posting here.  Fact is, the place is a magnet for scummy people doing things they shouldn't be.  Those of us who've been here a while are pretty passionate about doing what we do discreetly and safely and being mindful about how our actions make waves in the world.  It shouldn't have to be the way it is, but it is, so as a result, there will be people who are tired of telling kids not to grow in their parents house.  This isn't a measure of that person's virtue because these people are not all our students.  We are not all teachers.  As I said, none of us are being paid to share any information we have, we just do it.  That's the act of niceness.  Being nice is making sure the info you're spouting off actually works.  I don't get many thanks for that though, hell I'm lucky if my advice doesn't get me insulted by some kid who can't get his GED some days.

I know that knowing my shit and being nice aren't mutually exclusive but you have to understand, I don't actually benefit from people following my advice or not.  I don't have to keep a huge bookmark list full of links to point people in the right direction.  My teks might not be great but I still took the time to write them.  People are nice because of what they do, not how they say things.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23525196 - 08/09/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

that was a fast moving thread! great debate guys. no serious name calling and perspectives laid out well. i'm with inocuole on this one..


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: anthiawe]
    #23525212 - 08/09/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

MC would be awesome if it could go like GMM but there's just too many people looking for a quick buck, under age, both, which is unacceptable so its hard to deal appropriately


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23525367 - 08/09/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You guys are right, in that kind of atmosphere it would feel parasitic sometimes.
Innocule, you are right about the "front line" it does get pretty ridiculous up here, I for one would love to see more discussions than questions up here, like you guys say, it's all here in the search engine, I would love to engage in more detailed discussions in mycology that the whole serious community can have part in, where MC meets GGMM.
It seems that MC is used as the noob forum by every noob.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23525423 - 08/09/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think its a case of most noobs just want drugs the people that stick around because they love mycology love growing realise you can't realisticly eat psilocybes all day everyday gotta go to work at some point so they start on edibles tasty and can be used everyday, thats the way I see it. It my next logical step I'm just considering what to grow really want to also grow Ganoderma lucidum because they look incredible


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23525486 - 08/09/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think its a case of most noobs just want drugs the people that stick around because they love mycology love growing realise you can't realisticly eat psilocybes all day everyday gotta go to work at some point so they start on edibles tasty and can be used everyday, thats the way I see it. It my next logical step I'm just considering what to grow really want to also grow Ganoderma lucidum because they look incredible




True! And then the next step is realizing you can use your knowledge and passion for mycology to actually make a living with gourmet mushrooms, it's a ton of work, but what a great job.
Everything we do is so similar up to fruiting substrates, crossing that next line is nothing.
I always wondered about the great TC's from up here, like Frank for instance, what a great grower in all aspects of mycology, I can almost guarantee that guy has a successful gourmet operation right now, hence not really being around here for a while and seeing towards the end of his tenure seemed to be heavily moving into gourmet mushrooms.
I don't really know if that's the case but I would bet money on it.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23526783 - 08/10/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It would be nice to make a legit living from this but I used to love cars before I became a mechanic, that would would be my worry ruining another hobby for myself, the flip side is the old saying if you love what you do you'll never work a day in your life


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23531611 - 08/11/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I know that knowing my shit and being nice aren't mutually exclusive but you have to understand, I don't actually benefit from people following my advice or not.  .......  People are nice because of what they do, not how they say things.




Firstly whether you realize it right now or whether you don't, you do benefit from helping others.

What and how you say something is undeniably an action and a choice on your part. So what you say is in fact something that you are doing.


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