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    #23524426 - 08/09/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, so as I'm still a newbie to the growing of mushrooms..  I have ran into problems that I was taught on the way of the few grows and flushes I have done in the past.  My main problem was my work schedule and the absence of me at home.  I was curious on making one of the mono tubs that are self-sufficient to an extent but realized i would eventually realize i would forget a thing or two while making it.

  I was surfing the web for the ways to make them when i came across this sketchy website that my spore supply site advertises "universityscientific.com"  advertised off of "sporestore.com."  After reading the reviews of the site and how many people got f**ed from it,  I was obviously skeptical.  I eventually made the daring compulsive buy even after weighing out my options with making my own.  It came to $150.  ($119.99 + $29.99 Shipping.)

  After a day or two, I saw that the order status on their site has changed from "processed" to "Shipped."  But couldn't find any email with a tracking number.  Eventually after sending many emails to them worried about them f**king me over also, i managed to find it in my spam (oops).  It was shipped UPS and only took about a week.  When i received it, everything was fine inside, although their light they show in the picture, is not the same at all.  They portray one that sits on top of the terrarium but they gave me a clip light you would use for reading and such.

  On top of the light, their substrate jars seem half the size as normal half-pint jars that BRF cakes would use but this doesn't bother me.  With that in mind, they also sent me that free scale that are added for purchases over $100.  Even in that case, the scale is not even the same one they show on the site! Lmao! 

After doing the math, the items that it came with all add up to $117 worth.  I looked up each item to show  you guys the difference in price you could pay.  (THESE PRICES ARE WITH THE SHIPPING INCLUDED ONLINE.) **MOST ARE FREE SHIPPING ANYWAYS**

1. Tank -----------------$19
2. Heater---------------$25
3. Hydroton-------------$13
4. 6, Pre-sterile jars-----$25  (for theirs)
5. Light-----------------$12
6. Thermometer---------$8
7. Air pump system------$15

I do realize that you can make this exact same thing for alot cheaper!  I am just showing you the same quality items for if you made this exact one without going through them.  Judge it on your own if its worth it.  $117 if paid separately on items.. Or $150 to just buy it all together.  Im still counting the shipping in the $150 since the $117 price is with shipping also.

In my opinion,  i find it worth it if you're unsure on the items to buy or don't know the exact things.  I personally just needed something to help me out alittle for when I'm not home.  This will help me out especially with my timing outlet to help control the light. (Not included in kit.)

-Spazumtart :thumbup:


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
    #23524447 - 08/09/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wow how many threads start like this you don't need any of that just some perlite a large tote box with 1/4" holes in a 2" x2" grid pattern on all sides inc. Top and bottom
Put your cake on tin foil or lids on the damp perlite mist with water fan with lid when starting to dry

Cost £15 don't know what that is in dollars but not much

Edit: Thought you were doing Pf tek


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
    #23524481 - 08/09/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This post is going to get crucified you know.

Just make a damn monotub or SGFC and cakes, it's just as self sufficient as that system. I seriously don't see how your system is any more self sufficient or easier.

Why the heater? Why the pre-sterile jars? By the way, anything marketed as "The worlds first hydroponic mushroom growing system." is guaranteed shit. There's no such thing as hydroponic mushrooms.

From what I can tell it's just a weirder, shittier Poor Man's Pod FC.

https://www.shroomery.org/9047/Poor-Mans-Pod

You could use the money to buy a decent pressure cooker instead.

Not trying to be smarmy, but this is ill-conceived and I hate to see you waste your money.


Edited by Greg (08/09/16 10:19 AM)


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
    #23524504 - 08/09/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Whether or not people don't like the post, I'm just posting it to show people the option.  Im not promoting it, nor am i saying its better in any way.  Yes, their are cheaper and better ways to go with growing.  I've seen a lot of bad reviews of universityscientific and sporestore and this is my experience.  I don't believe universityscientific is 100% reliable but i know sporestore is the only place i will buy spores whenever i get a new strain.  They can crucify me, thats fine.  Im just adding my information to the general public for others to have their own thoughts on.

  Not to mention, the lack of actual experiences of the site in its own.  Many of the posts on these types of sites are obvious its the website promoting themselves.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
    #23524522 - 08/09/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Stop posting vendors
Smells very troll like as all your other grows are in a bucket thing and a weird white box


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg] * 1
    #23524567 - 08/09/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Whatever someone is growing, always looks 'the bomb' when it looks like it's on life support!

The best way to grow something is to dumb it down completely.  More complicated sure as hell doesn't yield better results.  It's like all the stupid shit about growing weed.  The old ways do just great!


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart] * 1
    #23524598 - 08/09/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That setup is doomed to contaminate over and over again.

Please don't waste your hard earned money on this type of crap.

These setups feed off of the assumption that you can buy a great pre-made grow set up. Don't be the next sucker!

If you want an easy fool proof way of growing shrooms you should buy a grow bag, any of these other setups are just a waste of money because with the smallest amount of research you could build a much better set up at a fraction of the cost.

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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: george castanza]
    #23524633 - 08/09/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just want to point out that this is the caliber of poster who puts me on ignore.  that is all.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23524637 - 08/09/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I just want to point out that this is the caliber of poster who puts me on ignore.  that is all.




Seems like people like this don't want advice, they want reassurance for their dumb decisions.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
    #23524643 - 08/09/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I think this is the reply that made him click ignore, regarding his fruiting chamber and pins falling off his cakes:

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Not enough holes, didn't dunk and roll, stop handling the cakes so much if they fall off.




He never wanted advice, he's looking for a bunch of yes men to tell him he's doing a good job.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
    #23524644 - 08/09/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

which they will never get...

he got got.

it's also sad how some of these people like this can never admit they made a mistake.. you got got.. it happens.. just get over it, see that you fucked up, learn from it, and move on.. but instead they get all butthurt and start acting like fools.. some people just can never admit they are wrong.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23524701 - 08/09/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah I think this is the reply that made him click ignore, regarding his fruiting chamber and pins falling off his cakes:

Quote:

Inocuole said:
Not enough holes, didn't dunk and roll, stop handling the cakes so much if they fall off.




He never wanted advice, he's looking for a bunch of yes men to tell him he's doing a good job.




on point again. been coming across your posts here and there and always straightforward and true.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Spazumtart]
    #23524737 - 08/09/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm still a newbie ...  I have ran into problems ... I was surfing the web ... when i came across this sketchy website that my spore supply site advertises ... After reading the reviews of the site and how many people got f**ed from it,  I was obviously skeptical.  I eventually made the ... buy ... It came to $150.  ($119.99 + $29.99 Shipping.)






This is how the beginning of the post read, in this users head.

You could have saved yourself $150 and a headache by using the search feature; you would have discovered (for free) that grow kits are garbage. Grow kits exist for one reason, to separate people from their money.

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My main problem was my work schedule and the absence of me at home.  I was curious on making one of the mono tubs that are self-sufficient to an extent but realized i would eventually realize i would forget a thing or two while making it.




What does this even mean? If you follow the instructions, you shouldn't forget anything. If your memory is really that bad, print the instructions out or keep them up on your phone as you go along.

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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23524785 - 08/09/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I just want to point out that this is the caliber of poster who puts me on ignore.  that is all.




This is the kind of off topic posting that probably gets you put on Iggy.

Nobody likes being told they are wrong. Nobody likes getting ripped off when they spend their money. Not that your post is not 100% accurate, it's just the delivery that could be a little more friendly or if you prefer maybe just not so condescending. I don't know if you're trying to come off that way or maybe it's just your personality and you're not doing it on purpose. If the later is the case, I can certainly relate.

Sometimes irl people mistake my legitimate statements as smartass condescending remarks because of the way I deliver them. This usually results in my having to explain my remarks to the individual if I want them to still like me, which I have become quite good with.

Granted there are plenty of hard heads out there that are insistent on doing it the hard way.

I used to be very much like that as a youngster, however at some point I learned one of the most valuable lessons of my life, it's OK to learn from someone else's mistake.

The old adage "A hard head makes for a soft ass" could possibly be of use to the op, or anyone else who comes along to read this thread.

Not saying that going out of your way to be nice to people who post in this forum would help them take your advice, but it may cut down on the Iggy's. I'm sure you don't care that some butthurt newbie with tub full of contamination has put you on ignore, but most members are not priding themselves on numbers like that.

Since this thread is probably doomed to be dumped or locked at some point anyway since threads like this rarely go well, I figured I would chime back in with two more pennies.


I would also mention that the longer a business has been in business the better off you will be to give them your business so you don't wind up getting the business. This is especially true for spore suppliers. I don't recommend any sponsor over any other sponsors, common sense would tell you that a business with few complaints that has been operating many years is the business you want to give your business.

Under no circumstances should you send your money out to a non shroomery vendor if you can avoid it.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: george castanza]
    #23524848 - 08/09/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not entirely interested in people liking me though.  :shrug:  I'm interested in providing facts and learning new ones.  Dressing up the truth to be more palatable is something I do when I'm getting paid to talk.

  However, if one were to go solely by my reception here, it appears there are a higher percentage of folks who appreciate candidness than those who get their feelings hurt over it.  The entire purpose of my hall of shame is to illustrate how putting people on ignore because they hurt your feelings, is a symptom of life problems that don't stop there, no, for if you look, you'll see that not a single one of them can put out a decent grow.  They all struggle with basic concepts, wriggling and squirming their way around the need to follow simple instructions.

It's a matter of which information people are willing to accept, and using that as a measure of their maturity.  To proudly proclaim "I don't want this good information, and in fact, I never want to see any more information like it" is to put a stamp on yourself, illuminating your willful ignorance for all to see.  Yeah I'm a bit of a prick for popping in threads posting off topic stuff but drudging through the same boring posts every day is a little bland.  We could say this whole post is off topic, but if we were going by what's on topic, we'd be discussing heaters and air pumps and hydroton, and I don't think the community would benefit from that.  I don't see it going anywhere good though.  And I'm certainly not deluded into thinking I'm helping its case. 
Might just have to put on our fancy shoes and do the  :lockdance:


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23524857 - 08/09/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

the problem is people take things so personally when its not a personal attack. they cant hear what is said, because they get so butthurt over their own ignorance/faults. it has nothing to do with anyone besides themselves. they are just mad at themselves for being wrong or making a mistake or getting got by a vendor or whatever the case is and projecting it onto others.


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23524865 - 08/09/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Agreed.

For this post to remain on topic all the replies would be "don't use that" , "don't buy that" , or "use the search engine"


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Inocuole]
    #23524867 - 08/09/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have to agree from what I've seen you can be a bit blunt at times.

I also think that people who have an easier time finding the ignore button than they do finding the search function deserve every bit of it.

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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: mupetmower]
    #23524874 - 08/09/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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the problem is people take things so personally when its not a personal attack. they cant hear what is said, because they get so butthurt over their own ignorance/faults. it has nothing to do with anyone besides themselves. they are just mad at themselves for being wrong or making a mistake or getting got by a vendor or whatever the case is and projecting it onto others.





I wouldn't call it a problem so much as an unavoidable fact of life .


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Re: The HydroShroom and universityscientific.com [Re: Greg]
    #23524875 - 08/09/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

sure, he's blunt.. but is that ever a reason not to accept a fact? or advice?

but i mean... it is unavoidable...

all it really takes it for a person to drop their egotism/narcissism/self pity.


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