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sanchothestoner
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#23527580 - 08/10/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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man malcolm you were on all short half life benzos.... that sucks. at least you powered through it.
i had a very similar story as you guys with my first time quitting klonopin and etiz, on separate occasions. i only remember the etiz wd's, but it was cold turkey off like a 10-20mg a day habit.... sometimes more. i remember feeling this impending doom for weeks and hearing voices. was a damn awful time.
etizolam is the worst wd i've ever experienced. worse then meth, heroin, coke, alcohol, anything.... ime.
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Alcohol is pretty bad but etiz is up there for sure. The first 2 days I couldn't even get outta bed. Made up some story about getting a concussion and missed all my tests for the week.
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sanchothestoner
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#23527598 - 08/10/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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come to think of it, i've never really experienced bad alcohol wd's. i've always had ketamine or benzos to help.
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Im still taking etizolam every day but i am currently tapering.
Going well so far
I feel like im taking it too slow and could quit faster, but then i cant really afford to be a wreck and miss any work.
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23527708 - 08/10/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Without benzos my anxiety gets very sever, it's like having boiling water pouring on your skin, sometimes it feels like roof is falling down I can't leave house at all and hide in my room
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sanchothestoner
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: desant]
#23527739 - 08/10/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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desant said: Without benzos my anxiety gets very sever, it's like having boiling water pouring on your skin, sometimes it feels like roof is falling down I can't leave house at all and hide in my room 
i know exactly how you feel.... sucks.
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You can run from anxiety but you can't hide. Gonna have to face it head on eventually and make some lifestyle changes. Pills won't make you happy.
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Starstepper] 1
#23527963 - 08/10/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know for sure I never had worse anxiety than when I used to use benzos, and since I stopped I get no anxiety. Its a trick. You think you take Benzos to manage your anxiety, but you actually have anxiety because you use benzos a lot of the time.
Just remember, down regulating your GABA receptors will only make anxiety much worse.
People who use benzos for anxiety need to look into pregabalin, gabapenin, kava , valerian root and L theanine- all effective and superior choices.
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23527969 - 08/10/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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All I know is alcohol triggers the worst anxiety for me. The day after heavy drinking is insane.
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Starstepper] 2
#23527980 - 08/10/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alcohol and benzos both have awful WD because they are both GABA agonists. But generally it takes longer to get that level of dependence on alcohol.
It only takes about seven days of daily xanax to get in bad trouble with WD, most people need to drink daily for months of years to get that level, in either case once you are GABA dependent on an agonist (As opposed to an upregulator) you are in bad trouble.
GABA addiction is the worst. Even opiate addiction you don't generally need to worry about seizures/death.
At least you can be a xanax addict without killing your liver and getting cancer.
My uncle is a straight alcoholic and its a rough rough fate. He needs to constantly drink alcohol (which gives him cancer and destroys his body, liver and brain) just to prevent a seizure or a delirium tremens that could kill him...
He cant even digest food without alcohol.
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howsyournaggerdoin said: I have around 2020 0.5mg pyrazolam pills in my fridge. I use them as sleep aid after tripping and as a last resort should a trip get out of hand. The later has never been the case fortunately. I bought them on the clearnet for very cheap and theyll last me a lifetime.
What's up with pyrazolam? I was gunna order some but never did. Any good?
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23527996 - 08/10/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't take xanax every day and I rarely drink. You must have me confused with Sancho.
Were you diagnosed with GAD by a doctor Moonshoe?
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: Starstepper]
#23528005 - 08/10/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Starstepper said: You can run from anxiety but you can't hide. Gonna have to face it head on eventually and make some lifestyle changes. Pills won't make you happy.
Fucking truth.
I made the wretched mistake about 6 years ago to let my doctor "treat" my anxiety with Benzos. Of course SSRI's and similar drugs were offered, nay, imposed on me at first. But I figured I could take my Alprazolam RX as needed. Especially at that time where I only would get .5mg's a day.
That's certainly a joke looking back on it. My anxiety was constant with no improvement over 6 months before taking any meds. I had abused benzos a lot as a teenager and by my early-mid 20's wanted nothing to with any drug in that class.
Unfortunately it seemed to be the only thing that worked for me in order to lead a productive life. That was a false assumption on my behalf as well.
Over the days, months, and years tolerance built. After about a year, the doctor bumped up my RX to 4mg's a day. 4mg's a day which had absolutely no effect on me other than stopping me from having a seizure.
Since early 2015 I decided I couldn't be on this shit anymore. I dropped to 3.5mg,3mg, 2.5 etc...and then found a new doctor that actually cared about something else than making money off my visits. She switched me over to Klonopin (gave me the option to), and still RX'd me 4mg's a day of that, but now I'm down to between .5mg and .75mg's a day.
Every time I taper down, every couple months or so, it induces a lot of nausea and anxiety. Certainly not anything unbearable. It's when I get to those .25mg or under daily doses that scares the shit out of me.
Please don't make the same mistake I did, guys.
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sanchothestoner
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: kr0nik0]
#23528027 - 08/10/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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idk i don't see being on benzo's such a bad thing.... they really can help some people.
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your posts say differently sancho.
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desant
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Exactly
I can not work out my problems naturally
I am physically handicapped and I used to go to gym and wear out my anxiety naturally, but 9 years ago i lost my ability to work out
Add to that constant fear of being hunted and pursued by many things and then add to that betrayel by those nearest to u, add to that u don't know what's gonna hit u next, your brain is in overdrive mode. Right now the only thing that helps me deal with anxiety is carefully rationing sleep - 2- 3 hours of sleep a day - this way my mind is always tired and relaxed and ignores all the outside stimuli which trigger anxiety
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Mind, body and spirit.
I translated it into: Meditation, diet/excericse and mushrooms.
As natural of a treatment as I have ever found. Shit works. Just takes time don't lose hope.

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sanchothestoner said: idk i don't see being on benzo's such a bad thing.... they really can help some people.
I don't see it as a bad thing physically.
Mentally over the years it wears you down. A lot! I frequently notice my mind not being as sharp as it was. There's a huge chemical imbalance going on with my brain's GABA receptors. It's not something that is extremely detrimental to my life right now, but I sure as hell think it will be if I don't eventually stop taking them altogether.
I look at it like this: When I finally taper completely off of benzos, I'll give my brain a year to re-adjust. It could be that the conditions which caused me severe anxiety issues back in the day are no longer present. I'm almost sure of that.
So, if after a year of not fueling my brain with a benzo every day, I'm still where I was 6 years ago, I'll reconsider getting back on Klonopin (for the rest of my life )
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Nope. Will never be a regular benzo user. Have used a handful of times, have blacked out once. Watched loads of black outs. Do not understand the benefit bc I have never seen the benefits. But that's just my experience with it.
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Re: how many shroomerites use benzos? [Re: pachoo]
#23528146 - 08/10/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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U have a sound mind, good on u young lady
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