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howsyournaggerdoin
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DMT gives some people heart problems which can lead to cardiac arrest (5-meo-DMT even more so). Also i think smoked DMT is more likely than other psychs to trigger mental problems because of the sudden onset. I cant provide studies to back up either of these claims so i might be wrong.
Id still vote for it to be freely available because self harm shouldnt be illegal
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There are no reported deaths from smoking DMT
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howsyournaggerdoin
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cardiac arrest apparently occured on 30mg iv DMT. Fortunately they managed to revive the girl but without medical attention she probably wouldve died. Ive read this in an old nexus thread (69ron was still around) but cant find it anymore
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Jokeshopbeard
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OK, so 1 person nearly died.
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Should of given her another dose. That would of sorted her out, probably.
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15mg orally after taking an MAOI nearly blew my fucking brains out. I cannot imagine 40mg IV.
There's always gonna be some dick who pushes it too far. I recall a couple of guys who died a while back after ingesting several hundred mg caffeine...
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Just from several hundred milligrams? A cup of coffee can have 100 milligrams of caffeine, so that's the kind of dose you would get from drinking several cups of coffee.
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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: psi]
#23533988 - 08/12/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Freely available when it's legal is fine, but not as it currently stands.
I have often said that everyone should have a DMT experience. It should be our society's right of passage, but it needs to be legal first.
I agree that most people will be turned off by the intensity of the experience, but this is more reason to be careful. If enough people came out and said DMT was a scary drug with the power to strike fear into your heart, then maybe the people in charge would heed their warnings before our praise.
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Quote:
Jokeshopbeard said: 15mg orally after taking an MAOI nearly blew my fucking brains out. I cannot imagine 40mg IV.
There's always gonna be some dick who pushes it too far. I recall a couple of guys who died a while back after ingesting several hundred mg caffeine...
I did 40mg orally with rue seeds extracted with 190 proof alcohol, had a pretty decent light(ish) trip.
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The times i have done pharma i usually use 1mg of DMT per body pound. I weigh 180 so i do 180mg. This is an incredible experience though and not for the faint of heart. I usually stick to 100mg nowadays when i feel the urge to do it, which is not often.
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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: natedawgnow]
#23534126 - 08/12/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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OMG! That would be a TRIP! I also used the yellowish extract with the rue seed alcohol extract. One has to time it just right I think, and also fasting is paramount, not 24 hours but a good 4-6 hours with a light good meal beforehand is fine. I would say a light meal that morning, or a lunch, depending on when one wants to take the journey (morning, eve, or night). I'll do some experimenting with my new extract over the next few months, I also have a partner to journey with, YAY!
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I use extracted DMT, and syrian rue tea. I mix my spice in with a shot glass of lemon juice to acidify the DMT and while it sits i drink half a glass of rue tea made with 5 or so grams of rue. Then i wait 15 minutes and pour the DMT/lemon shot into the rest of my tea and drink it down. Tastes awful but there is very little nausea.
I have a buddy that bakes pharma edibles. They taste like shit but hit really strong. More of a novel thing for sure.
Again this method makes for an incredible experience but it is just the way I choose to do it. Anyone else should work their way up to higher doses and not think that i am giving dosage advice or advocating doing 180mg as a 1st time dose.
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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: natedawgnow]
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I use capsules, seems to work great. I'm not giving dosage advice either. (don't do as I do/write here people)
Taking at the same time might work better, IDK. I do poke a hole in the capsules so they dissolve quicker though.
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natedawgnow
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One really important part is the acidification of the DMT. Salting it really helps with your body's ability to uptake. Even if you use capsules i would still recommend mixing the dmt in lemon juice and taking the shot that way.
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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: natedawgnow]
#23534270 - 08/12/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did it with O.J. seemed to work ok, I have stomach issues with acidity. Maybe a famatodine or ranitodine tablet a couple hours beforehand?
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How long does a pharmahuasca trip last you guys? About the same as a psilocybin trip? Is it comparable to a psilocybin trip?
I've only ever smoked it myself. I've smoked quite a lot of it, never delved into maoi mixes though.
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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: PatrickKn]
#23534307 - 08/12/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Same duration as a mushroom experience but it has the potential to be much stronger than mushrooms.
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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: natedawgnow]
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ummm, I remember it lasting 2-4 hours, dropped off really quickly once the decline was noticed.
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