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If DMT became "mainstream"?
    #23523918 - 08/09/16 02:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lets say that DMT production could be scaled the same way that LSD is. Obviously this isn't really feasible but lets just say it was

So DMT hits the street and starts to go for about 25$ a gram let's say

Do you think that people would start doing it regularly? Like the same way LSD (esp with its recent surge in quality) has become a household name so to speak, do you think DMT would ever rise out of obscurity? Would it ever become a drug that is usually taken as a recreational drug (the same way that LSD has)?

I mean IMO DMT isn't really a recreational drug in the classic sense. Even L I feel can be done almost purely recreationally. I feel DMT is almost all spirituality and little hedonism if that makes sense? I feel I am not experienced enough to comment
Thoughts? I mean I feel at the 15-25mg (medium dose for ME), the effect generated could fit this description. Esp the 10mg dose did this for me


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82]
    #23523927 - 08/09/16 02:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think it could ever become mainstream due to the propensity for DMT trips to be difficult, 'non-recreational', or just damn right scary. The only drug which seems to take one further in that direction is Iboga, although I have not yet tried it (as much as I want to).

Most drug users just want straight up, easy, hedonistic fun, IME.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82] * 3
    #23523939 - 08/09/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Spirit molecule was on netflix. Anybody I know who likes lsd also likes dmt. It is mainstream and, I would argue, easier to obtain than lsd.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23523964 - 08/09/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spirit molecule was on netflix. Anybody I know who likes lsd also likes dmt. It is mainstream and, I would argue, easier to obtain than lsd.



I mean sort of. Anytime I have brought DMT up or someone else has in a circle of drug users, its some super mysterious hard to acquire mega-drug

I mean I am at a uni in california (university+california means the rates of drug use are relatively high) and I still feel that its fairly obscure

I am yet to meet a single person who has done DMT besides me. And multiple people seem interested in procuring it based on my convos with them. Similar to L in many ways. in the sense most of what is said about it is generally misinformation other than the people who have done it. I mean walking into a convo about DMT by 20

Also; Would you guys say the DMT headspace at light doses is similar to L or shrooms? I feel a 7-14 grams of cubes would be equivalent to a strong DMT dose. Probably more intense...right?

Like I said, I have experience with DMT but it is limited. And my exp with L and shrooms has never been beyond 3.5 grams or 1.5 tabs. So someone with more exp please comment/step in


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82]
    #23523981 - 08/09/16 04:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The smoked DMT experience if I had to describe it in such a way is kinda like taking an entire high-dose shroom experience and condensing it into a 20 minute time span

That's just a rough comparison but I don't really think it would catch on as well as shrooms or LSD simply because it'd such a sensitive chemical, it's easy to destroy it by using too much heat unless you make some infused leaf with it but most "mainstream" people probably wouldn't be inclined to do that


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23523984 - 08/09/16 04:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think its too powerful of a drug for most people to do and want to continue to use over time.
Also if it did become "mainstream" or readily available there is more potential for shitty people to get their hands on it and maybe sell it to people who are not experienced or kids, who might be thinking its just something like weed.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: SonicTitan] * 1
    #23524039 - 08/09/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hold up, I'm on lunchbreak in the new DMT bar, Let me get back at ya in 20 minutes because reality is fading fast right now.

It's a beautiful dream.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23524117 - 08/09/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I remember watching some stupid drug addict type tv show thing some few years ago.

It was like a documentary on these two white guys that would apparently smoke DMT everyday on their lunch break. Giving DMT the nickname "white mans lunch" or something like that.

I dont remember much of the show but thats the first time id ever heard about it, and i wasnt into psychs then so it had to have been awhile ago when i watched that.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82]
    #23524238 - 08/09/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It would be pretty easy to synthesize DMT on a large scale. Theres multiple routes to do it in tihkal and none of the chems needed are that hard to get as far as i know.

The real problem with selling DMT is that most people cant handle it. Theyll smoke way too much, get major hyperslap and seek revenge on the one who sold it.

I think something like 5:1 or weaker infused leaf might be viable. So that you cant smoke yourself to hyperspace in only a few hits. Then again why would you buy that if you could just get shrooms or lsd.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23524295 - 08/09/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You'd be extracting not synthesizing would you not?

DMT already is mainstream. Hell The shits practically sponsored by Joe Rogan


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23524311 - 08/09/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If I had to only choose between DMT infused leaf, LSD and shrooms for the rest of my life, I would choose DMT. Thats just me though


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82]
    #23524314 - 08/09/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

hahah bro wat? How do people think DMT is mainstream? It is on the level of like PCP in terms of obscurity. At least at my college. I think maybe my friend group just isnt as heavy with drug use or something. They all smoke weed heavily and take molly here and there. Coke here and there too


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82]
    #23524374 - 08/09/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If i wanted to sell DMT on a big scale id be synthesizing it.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin] * 1
    #23529903 - 08/10/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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If i wanted to sell DMT on a big scale id be synthesizing it.



I just looked up the synth online. If DMT really was in that much demand, it would have already been done. Makes a lot more sense


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82]
    #23530074 - 08/11/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

if dmt when mainstream, it would be blow my mind. Talk about a total restructuring of society forever....


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23530155 - 08/11/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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if dmt when mainstream, it would be blow my mind. Talk about a total restructuring of society forever....



Well my assumption is that within my lifetime, marijuana will become legal. Once that happens, the door with open up for the rest. I would say it will start with Molly, and shrooms. Then the rest

So that hypothetical "if" you are referring to will be reasonably soon. Like within the next century. After DMT and MXE become openly and widely available, who knows what the fuck will happen?


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82] * 5
    #23530165 - 08/11/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've said to myself for a few years now, that if mankind does the right thing and stops prosecuting, and imprisoning people simply for altering their own consciousness as they choose (providing they are doing harm to no other) that my faith in our species will be (at least partially) restored.

Cause right now, I'm one misanthropic fuck, and I think the fucking whole of the human race deserves to be wiped out. I can't see a single redeeming feature to our species as a whole.

Paradoxically, I think individuals are wonderful. But 'mankind'? What an absolute clusterfuck.

Carlin, as always, said it well:

People are wonderful. I love individuals. I hate groups of people. I hate a group of people with a 'common purpose'. 'Cause pretty soon they have little hats. And armbands. And fight songs. And a list of people they're going to visit at 3am. So, I dislike and despise groups of people but I love individuals. Every person you look at; you can see the universe in their eyes, if you're really looking.
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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23531083 - 08/11/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wow great fucking quote.
Sounds a little soft for carlin


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: topdog82]
    #23531187 - 08/11/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'd buy stock in Alex Grey tshirts.


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Re: If DMT became "mainstream"? [Re: wigglewak]
    #23531210 - 08/11/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I thought DMT (or at least, Ayahausca) was mainstream? Everyone's going down to Peru for the jungle juice. I say everyone. Everyone who can afford a "gap yah"



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