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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23524368 - 08/09/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

look women are oppressed and segregated in different ways everywhere across the globe, i dont think it's really a competition... tho i dont think islam is often great for them either.

while it's great you are concerned about women's rights, your tone is totally patronising here, you, some man (part of the same history of oppression) telling a woman what she should or shouldnt wear on her head, and what she should or shouldnt think about her own religion :shrug:


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn]
    #23524384 - 08/09/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't tell her anything.

Here is some practical swimwear for Islamic women: http://www.eastessence.com/core/media/media.nl?id=16077&c=3374976&h=483ef707fb8cc7b28012

As to my tone, she is not a hero for wearing what millions of women wear. Where is the bravery?


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23524404 - 08/09/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Too much feet exposure.

Death by the stone!

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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn]
    #23524406 - 08/09/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The real heroes here are the long distance swimmers who swam through the raw sewage in that bay down there.  That took real courage.


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23524410 - 08/09/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Do you think it had any effect on them?



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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23524424 - 08/09/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Do you think it had any effect on them?






That was actually a banned Russian swimmer.


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23524922 - 08/09/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you basically imply she doesnt know any of that about her own religion

as i said, it's in reping those millions of women on the world stage when so many people hate them or are afraid of them and want to ban that clothing item is what makes it heroic imo  :ohwell:


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn] * 1
    #23524923 - 08/09/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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quinn said:
telling a woman what she should or shouldnt wear on her head,




but I'm supposed to remove my hat when I go in a bank !

so

obviously bank robbers should disguise themselves as Muslim women !

yeah that sounds about right

it's a an even better idea than making old men, women, and kids take off their shoes at airports

seems funny folks argue about right and wrong in such a silly & arbitrary world


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: laughingdog]
    #23524990 - 08/09/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

she wasn't in a bank??

...tho if she was im sure they could work out some process that doesn't exclude half the muslim population


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn]
    #23525271 - 08/09/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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she wasn't in a bank??

...tho if she was im sure they could work out some process that doesn't exclude half the muslim population




I didn't say she was, are you high on something weird?, or just incapable of reading comprehension?


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: laughingdog]
    #23525376 - 08/09/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i said that deliberately because banks seem unrelated to a thread about a muslim olympian?.. talk about reading comprehension


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn]
    #23525888 - 08/09/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i said that deliberately because banks seem unrelated to a thread about a muslim olympian?.. talk about reading comprehension




This is an OC thread, it isn't really a thread, more like a sort of a thread about something that may have happened.  It's an illusory thread to be followed up by some whining in a thread that should have gone into Physical and Mental Health Forum.  It's a pattern, it's a problem, it's got no solution.  We've allowed this thing to fester, in fact we've encouraged its growth in a morbid fascination of a high school biology student doing dissection.


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn]
    #23528461 - 08/10/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i said that deliberately because banks seem unrelated to a thread about a muslim olympian?.. talk about reading comprehension




the bank example was used to make a point about double standards, and political correctness, not about banks.

surely that is obvious?

anything that can go under the guise of religion gets all kinds of unmerited benefits. Hence Scientology was turned into a religion by Ron Hubbard after it started out as Dianetics. Hence Lenny Bruce, the comedian, put on a priest's costume and did his thing. etc. Really it's not an obscure point. Banks happen to be an example of a public space where people are expected to have their faces exposed to cameras.
After the London subway bombings etc, I'm sure many are even more concerned about this issue in Europe.

Invent a silly costume, call it part of your religion, and you can get away with wearing it anywhere regardless or whether others are allowed to do so. The Sikh's white turbans do not interfere with facial identification, which in this world in public spaces in unfortunately at times necessary. To pretend this isn't the case due to political correctness in regards to religion is surely misguided.


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: laughingdog]
    #23528491 - 08/10/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

https://a12iggymom.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/australian-muslim-women-must-show-faces-for-identity-checks-under-new-law/

Australian Muslim women must show faces for identity checks under new law

some people are starting to get it



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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: laughingdog]
    #23528569 - 08/10/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps this is where part of the confusion comes from, (see image) (they have so many different costumes & countries & expectations)

But Western political correctness about religion compounds the problem,
of getting people to adapt to the country they are in within reason.
There are no sandstorms in Paris, or Shieks trying to steal pretty daughters for their harem in Chicago. That terrorism is associated with the Muslim religion goes way beyond, the fears intelligent people may have about cops doing racial profiling. In this case there is no doubt about a correlation. This is of course unfortunate for those of them who are sane and peaceful, but for them to adopt an arrogant attitude toward their new countries, helps no one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536381/How-women-dress-according-different-Muslim-countries.html



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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: laughingdog]
    #23528638 - 08/10/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Is the first one for beekeepers?


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: laughingdog]
    #23530257 - 08/11/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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laughingdog said:
the bank example was used to make a point about double standards, and political correctness, not about banks.

surely that is obvious?




no it wasnt, particularly because those 'double standards' are not relevant to fencing in the olympics :shrug:

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religion gets all kinds of unmerited benefits.... Banks happen to be an example of a public space where people are expected to have their faces exposed to cameras.




public spaces should be accessible to the public. if a large portion of them require certain headwear then the public spaces should allow that.. off the top of my head why not finger print instead? working something out is not hard.


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Invent a silly costume, call it part of your religion, and you can get away with wearing it anywhere regardless or whether others are allowed to do so.



people can wear silly costumes in public spaces regardless of religion. are they going to ban Furries from trains too?

and do you really think we shouldnt have the freedom to wear whatever the hell we like? that's some 1984 shit

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The Sikh's white turbans do not interfere with facial identification, which in this world in public spaces in unfortunately at times necessary. To pretend this isn't the case due to political correctness in regards to religion is surely misguided.



i fail to see how seeing a person's face makes you any more safe?. can people wear make up? can they have facial surgery? can they wear putty on their nose or a mask or anything else?

do you really want a world of perpetual surveillance?

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Australian Muslim women must show faces for identity checks under new law

some people are starting to get it



australians are fucking racist. i know because i am one.

we just reelected a woman to the senate who once wanted to ban asians, stop funding the aboriginals and now wants to ban muslims too :cookiemonster:


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn]
    #23530313 - 08/11/16 05:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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australians are fucking racist. i know because i am one.



That's the only thing that bothers me about emigrating there at the end of the year. I'm already a citizen but have only lived there for a year. And I'm gonna be moving to the backwater middle of nowhere, and I know the racism is gonna be rife. I can see myself ending up in some heated arguments about it...


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23530408 - 08/11/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

ooh nice where you heading? i wouldnt worry too much there're lots of decent folk around here too


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Re: American Muslim Olympian Fencer declared a hero [Re: quinn]
    #23530435 - 08/11/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Northern NSW. About 7 hours drive south of Brisbane.


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