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Sub Rosa
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Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones
#23522471 - 08/08/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive taken mushrooms about 8 or 9 times now and the last few trips were difficult, very harrowing and humbling. Despite this, I still have noticed acute benefits for a few days or weeks afterwards. It sort of seems to resert my brain in some way or another.
Does anyone else experience the same thing? I do admit my first few trips were probably the most important and least unpleasant.
Edited by Sub Rosa (08/08/16 05:08 PM)
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: Sub Rosa]
#23523662 - 08/08/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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How harrowing were they? Not to scare you off or anything but on my 13th mushroom trip I had to relive watching a snuff film. Wasn't really a bad trip though just a bad part of the trip but yes I and many others have noticed that all trips tend to be beneficial in some way or other..even the ones that feel like heel. Often times even the 'nightmare' ones if thats what you're referring too.
I noticed you said you took mushrooms 8 or 9 times so far. Well for me around my 7th or 8th trip is when mushrooms stopped being recreational for me and after my 13th and 14th trip they lost all recreational potential for me. Still very beneficial and still a good reminder tool for my spirit but my trips are far too deep now and far too profound and...exotic..to be considered anything close to "recreational" or even just any street drug or everyday "fun" activity.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: Sub Rosa]
#23523845 - 08/09/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sub Rosa said: Does anyone else experience the same thing? I do admit my first few trips were probably the most important and least unpleasant.
I would say around 99% of my trips were "difficult" in some way or another. I purposely don't use the word bad trip. In my opinion there is no such thing, the only thing that can make it "bad" is your preconceived perception of the trip. Any regular tripper will tell you, trips are never predictable and therefore can never be preconceived.
I also tend to trip harder than most at the same dose. A recreational dose for friends would see me crossing the line into an alternate universe. What I am saying is not everybody is a psychonaut and can stomach crossing the line into a difficult trip and go back again and again with an open mind and bring something back. A lot of "psychonauts" take xanax and other benzo's when things get "difficult". There lies the difference between a weekend tripper who wants pretty visuals and will only accept a "good" trip. Psychonauts bring both the good and difficult back into their lives.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: Jeff Vader]
#23523934 - 08/09/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I feel like the vast majority of my trips were beneficial regardless of whether i felt good or bad in the trip. i think as long as you respect the mushroom and respect yourself, take in right set and setting with good intentions things are unlikely to go wrong. they might "go wrong" in the short term, meaning you have an aweful experience but years later you look back and see it was just what you needed.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: Jeff Vader]
#23524062 - 08/09/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sub Rosa said: Does anyone else experience the same thing? I do admit my first few trips were probably the most important and least unpleasant.
I would say around 99% of my trips were "difficult" in some way or another. I purposely don't use the word bad trip. In my opinion there is no such thing, the only thing that can make it "bad" is your preconceived perception of the trip. Any regular tripper will tell you, trips are never predictable and therefore can never be preconceived.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: LRG]
#23524558 - 08/09/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The first time I ever did shrooms I had a very difficuly time for about and hr of my shroom trip. After that night it didn't scare me away from doing mushrooms it actually made me want to explore mushrooms more and figure out why I had a bad time and what I could do to not have that happen again. Looking back at it I don't regret having that bad trip.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23525758 - 08/09/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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AuroraBorealis88 said: How harrowing were they? Not to scare you off or anything but on my 13th mushroom trip I had to relive watching a snuff film. Wasn't really a bad trip though just a bad part of the trip but yes I and many others have noticed that all trips tend to be beneficial in some way or other..even the ones that feel like heel. Often times even the 'nightmare' ones if thats what you're referring too.
I noticed you said you took mushrooms 8 or 9 times so far. Well for me around my 7th or 8th trip is when mushrooms stopped being recreational for me and after my 13th and 14th trip they lost all recreational potential for me. Still very beneficial and still a good reminder tool for my spirit but my trips are far too deep now and far too profound and...exotic..to be considered anything close to "recreational" or even just any street drug or everyday "fun" activity.
Mushrooms have never been a fun or recreational activity for me, even my first few times. They are very introspective, with this sort of tough love father figure quality. My trips make me question everything. The last few were just very unpleasant, my thoughts were cluttered and i felt almost intoxicated like i had been poisoned. The trip itself felt like a total waste but afterwards i feel better.
Edited by Sub Rosa (08/09/16 07:04 PM)
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: Peyote Road]
#23525847 - 08/09/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jeff Vader said:
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Sub Rosa said: Does anyone else experience the same thing? I do admit my first few trips were probably the most important and least unpleasant.
I would say around 99% of my trips were "difficult" in some way or another. I purposely don't use the word bad trip. In my opinion there is no such thing, the only thing that can make it "bad" is your preconceived perception of the trip. Any regular tripper will tell you, trips are never predictable and therefore can never be preconceived.
I also tend to trip harder than most at the same dose. A recreational dose for friends would see me crossing the line into an alternate universe. What I am saying is not everybody is a psychonaut and can stomach crossing the line into a difficult trip and go back again and again with an open mind and bring something back. A lot of "psychonauts" take xanax and other benzo's when things get "difficult". There lies the difference between a weekend tripper who wants pretty visuals and will only accept a "good" trip. Psychonauts bring both the good and difficult back into their lives.
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Peyote Road said: I feel like the vast majority of my trips were beneficial regardless of whether i felt good or bad in the trip. i think as long as you respect the mushroom and respect yourself, take in right set and setting with good intentions things are unlikely to go wrong. they might "go wrong" in the short term, meaning you have an aweful experience but years later you look back and see it was just what you needed.
I would agree, and the unpredictable nature of trips are probably the reason get peopke scared. It's not like LSD, I have almost no control over any of my trips. The ability to let go completely can be very hard unless you take a high enough dose to where you just give way.
Edited by Sub Rosa (08/09/16 07:40 PM)
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: Sub Rosa]
#23526380 - 08/09/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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All trips are beneficial IME but exactly why can take a while to figure out.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23526464 - 08/09/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shit I swore off mushrooms for 12 years starting in 2004 but just came back to them like 2 weeks ago lol.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: Sub Rosa]
#23527320 - 08/10/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sub Rosa said: Ive taken mushrooms about 8 or 9 times now and the last few trips were difficult, very harrowing and humbling. Despite this, I still have noticed acute benefits for a few days or weeks afterwards. It sort of seems to resert my brain in some way or another.
Does anyone else experience the same thing? I do admit my first few trips were probably the most important and least unpleasant.
I've experienced the same - difficult, harrowing, humbling - but I wouldn't consider them bad as your title labels.
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: dcthestar] 2
#23527334 - 08/10/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I also don't believe in a such thing as having a bad trip. The best way I can describe it is to imagine all the baggage, trials, tribulations, emotional struggles and pain you bury in your subconscious are items you are carrying around in your pockets; well when you take shrooms, it's like having a big table in front of you, and the psychedelic is making you take all these things out of your pockets and lay them out flat across the table. This is the point in which you are forced to assess these difficult items and organize them in a way that you aren't still carrying around a pocketful of emotional items or baggage. You can also consider it as having to face and fight your inner demons.
The last experience I had, I was forced to deal with a lot of underlying problems in my life that I have been thinking about quite a bit for the past few weeks. Parts of the trip were uncomfortable, parts of the trip I felt like I had finally did it and had gone completely insane, parts of the trip I felt as if I were in hell, but by the end of the trip I emerged victorious of my emotional problems and was left sitting there beside my Atman(inner soul/spirit) joking and playing around with him as if I had just met up with an old friend. He showed me I have been here and done this before. That I have witnessed the rise and fall of empires and civilizations; that I have always existed, that I do exist and I will forever exist. That he has always been there beside me every step of the way and to never forget that and to never lose myself during the trials and tribulations in life no matter how dark or chaotic things may get.
Edited by SyzygisticSoul (08/10/16 07:09 AM)
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Re: Every mushroom trip seems beneficial, even the bad ones [Re: PaulyAnna]
#23528036 - 08/10/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sub Rosa said: Ive taken mushrooms about 8 or 9 times now and the last few trips were difficult, very harrowing and humbling. Despite this, I still have noticed acute benefits for a few days or weeks afterwards. It sort of seems to resert my brain in some way or another.
Does anyone else experience the same thing? I do admit my first few trips were probably the most important and least unpleasant.
I've experienced the same - difficult, harrowing, humbling - but I wouldn't consider them bad as your title labels.
Those qualities alone aren't the only reason i consider some trips "bad". The worst trips ive had had intoxicating confusion, delirium, disorganized thinking, unhealthy rumination over trivial matters, amd physical symtoms such as nausea, bloating, or dizziness. Though some say thats not necrssarily a problem, some ayahuasca brews purposefully cause vpmitting and diarrhea to "cleanse" the body of parasites and other ailments. I suppose you just have to trust that the mushroom wont fail you.
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