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Leaf storage
    #23522068 - 08/08/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have some plants that I'd like to store the leafs from. They're not large enough yet to collect all the leafs I need at one time but they drop a lot of leafs a week that are currently being discarded. I'd like to save the falling leaf's but what would be the best way? I've read freezing destroys the alkaloids. In the places where they harvest they dry the leafs till yellow then extract but I wouldn't be extracting immediately can't make that much tea at once.
Would drying under grow lights then store in a dark dry cool place be the best choice? Would dehydrating with dehydrator be better or destroy the alkaloid (it should be reasonably obvious what the alkaloid is use for tea and Scarface's favourite nose candy)


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23522115 - 08/08/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok. I dont lnow about long term storagw. I have 2 novogranatense. I sprayed them down with insecticidal soap and they dropped some leaves. So imharvesting them and just lwtting them dry in a dish. Idont know how that helps any. But thats what im doing.:shrug:


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23522132 - 08/08/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mine drop all there leaves every couple months then flower ones gone mad with bud this time give me a min I'll post a pic


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23522146 - 08/08/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lots of buds

Another thats started flowering

Thats one plants worth in the window ledge in a little over two weeks of dropped leafs and I usually just use what I can then bin the rest but I have 5 plants so lots of waste


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23523817 - 08/09/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats alot of leaves. I say tou could get you a nice tea. I wonder why it loses its leaves like that.


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23523877 - 08/09/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They all do it every so often they drop all but a few leafs then bush out again I've read its normal


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23524769 - 08/09/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Check the on the right.


Looks kinda like yours with all the leaf drop but im sure it was the insecticidal soap too.


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23524947 - 08/09/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah very much when I spray with food veg  grade bug killer I do notice a lot of leafs falling off it really doesn't seem to take much.
How old are yours the leafs seem to drop off every time there is a slight change in environment.
Wow those pots are big my plants are around a similar size I might move up a pot, one of my favorite things is moving into the big boy pots!!


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23524968 - 08/09/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My gang mostly looking scrappy at the mo but there's plenty new growth so its nothing to worry about just collect and save as much as I cam

About to start flowering heavily hopefully get some berries to plant this time


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23526736 - 08/10/16 12:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Those look amazing man.:awethumb:

I dont know how old they are. Maybe more than a year. I have a thread where i started from seed and only 2 out of 10 made it. Well 4. But the other 2 were wimps and didnt hack it so i pulled them. Once these flower they will produce a bunc of seed. They have flowered but havent produced anything yet.

Those are good size pots for the foreseeable future. I plan to move them indoors once it gets cold.


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23531775 - 08/11/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So here's where I'm at
I gathered all the leafs chucked them in pure methanol in the blender

I'll leave it over night then filter then evap see what's left mostly gonna be chlorophyll then I'll figure out how far I wanna take this maybe just keep in fridge and figure out dosage in a bru I really wanna stay as far from cocaine extraction I can do it its not hard but that would be defeating the point for me


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23610665 - 09/04/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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ferrel_human said:
Thats alot of leaves. I say tou could get you a nice tea. I wonder why it loses its leaves like that.




This one lost every leaf bar one just started growing back the one leaf that survived dropped off shortly after the first new leaf appeared they seem to do it every 2-3 months or so


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23610829 - 09/04/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I know some plants drop leaves because of lack of humidity, read that a few month back.  I would think plants which are native to areas with warmer, more humid climates, might have to have something which raises the humidity, I don't now though just a thought.


Also, regarding that last pic, keep your indoor growing areas clean!  A dirty indoor grow area like that, is wonderful at harboring pests.


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: Lucis]
    #23610876 - 09/04/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I know some plants drop leaves because of lack of humidity, read that a few month back.  I would think plants which are native to areas with warmer, more humid climates, might have to have something which raises the humidity, I don't now though just a thought.


Also, regarding that last pic, keep your indoor growing areas clean!  A dirty indoor grow area like that, is wonderful at harboring pests.



Coca plants are known for dropping most of their leafs every few months for what ever reason I have two different varieties one does it the other doesn't the temp and humidity doesn't change. Which is besides the point I know why it happens and not concerned about it tbh its got nothing to do with my thread I was just showing ferral what I was talking about.
The cleanliness of my grow room is really nothing to do with anything plants grow in soil surrounded by pests one of my pots spilling a bit ain't the end of the world it doesn't need be sterile


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Re: Leaf storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23610886 - 09/04/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Taken from coca growers guide
3. Don't freak out when the plants go deciduous, usually about a year or a year and a half from sprouting. They drop almost all their leaves except the ones at the tip of the stems, turn yellow and mottled, and you think they're dying. They're not -- in fact, they're growing! Within a few days, little spike-shaped green sprouts will appear, and tiny, usually white, flowers. After a few years, the flowers will start producing little seedpods, roundish oval shaped green pods that the flower may still cling to. These then dry and turn slowly red on the plant, reaching a bright red like a cherry-colored coffee fruit, which contains the albumin and nourishment for the tiny seed in the center. Usually the shrubs will go through the leaf-fall several times, about once every 2 or 3 months, before the seedpods appear. Don't expect seeds until the plant is 3 to 5 years old.


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