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OfflineRJ Tubs 202
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Re: Empathy [Re: FlowerofTitania] * 1
    #23526562 - 08/09/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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FlowerofTitania said:

Sanity and insanity have been terms that change so often depending on the times. What's sane in one time is insane in another.




Great point! Most of what is called "mental illness" today has not been viewed as abnormal in the past.

When little Johnny was restless and fidgety in school in 1800, nobody said he had a mental illness.

But now he's given drugs to alter his abnormal behavior, under the guise of fixing a biological defect.


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Invisiblenooneman
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Re: Empathy [Re: hTx]
    #23526634 - 08/09/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with the statement and it's general message.

The problem is that everyone has different perspectives and they're all (mostly) equally valid. So even if I agree with this statement, someone else might not. As a result, even if I treat someone well, someone else might be a total dick. In the end, we're at a stalemate of kindness vs. assholes.

No one is kind or an asshole all the time, so that makes it even harder to really change the way humanity as a whole treats one another because no one is really consistent in how they treat others.

We really need to grow the fuck up and mature as an entire species IMO.


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Re: Empathy [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23527291 - 08/10/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
if you spend 15 minutes in the New York Subway system you will see
that the average person actually has a lot of respect and empathy for and with their fellows.

I am enchanted with New York




I lived in Brooklyn and Manhattan for almost 5 years, and having spent many hours on subway cars, I can attest to this. Oddly enough, these sardine cans seem to bring it out more often than not.


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Re: Empathy [Re: PaulyAnna]
    #23527407 - 08/10/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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PaulyAnna said:
Quote:

redgreenvines said:
if you spend 15 minutes in the New York Subway system you will see
that the average person actually has a lot of respect and empathy for and with their fellows.

I am enchanted with New York




I lived in Brooklyn and Manhattan for almost 5 years, and having spent many hours on subway cars, I can attest to this. Oddly enough, these sardine cans seem to bring it out more often than not.




My experience happened to be the complete opposite there and quite frankly everywhere else. Such rules only apply to those who are "normal", if you're weird then no one gives a damn.


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Re: Empathy [Re: hTx]
    #23527595 - 08/10/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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hTx said:
"“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”

Robert Anton Wilson


How true do you think this statement is?

And does it give you the feels?




I think it's true.

But the real question is why.

I would answer.  "Because humanity has relinquished its relationships with its unconscious existence."

Meaning the crusades epigenetically removed what humanity needs to live full
lives with real freedom or Independence and hope based in a complete reality.


Edited by ChristopherABrown (08/10/16 09:05 AM)


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Re: Empathy [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23527789 - 08/10/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

ChristopherABrown said:
Quote:

hTx said:
"“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”

Robert Anton Wilson


How true do you think this statement is?

And does it give you the feels?




I think it's true.

But the real question is why.

I would answer.  "Because humanity has relinquished its relationships with its unconscious existence."

Meaning the crusades epigenetically removed what humanity needs to live full
lives with real freedom or Independence and hope based in a complete reality.




Freedom and independence are myths. Even a full life is little more than a vague concept. It's impossible to know what is truly "sane". It's nothing more than public opinion.


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Offlinezzripz
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Re: Empathy [Re: FlowerofTitania]
    #23528008 - 08/10/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

it isn't impossible. I know that what is being done to the natural world by profiteers is insane.


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