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glbggg
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Post deleted by glbggg<p>Reason for deletion: fuck this hobby
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Junior Fungus
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Re: 1st flush 30galon tub [Re: glbggg]
#23520811 - 08/08/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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glbggg said:
since my sub is undoubtably over saturated shud I just harvest everything now?
First flush looks ready to harvest yeah. It's a very uneven canopy, and not a very high looking yield... Many factors could affect this I think. There's the bacterial contams, the insufficient FAE and/or excess substrate moisture, and multispore, which would cause uneven flushes since the genetics are not the same all around the tub.
Anyway, always harvest right before the veil of the mushroom breaks. If you don't know what I'm talking about google it or use the search function here. There are various reasons why you want to harvest at that moment.
That's when they are most potent. That's also right before they start spreading spores all over, leaving you with dirty black caps and spores all over the substrate too. These spores can act as food for contams. If you wait too long before harvesting, the mushrooms start to rot and the actives (psilocin/psilocybin) start to degrade! As with women, the young adults are the most fun.
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Re: 1st flush 30galon tub [Re: glbggg]
#23521027 - 08/08/16 02:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Junior Fungus said:
That's when they are most potent.
You won't notice a difference in potency between a shroom harvested before the veil tears and a shroom that already tore it's veil. While I agree that you shouldn't wait until the mushrooms start to degrade, picking before the veil breaks is too early IMHO.
I always wait until the mushroom's caps open up. I notice that they grow most in those last few hours, not to mention they are prettier when they open their caps. Spores are not an issue if you don't wait too long, they won't start dropping spores intensely until the cap starts to curl upwards, or just before.

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glbggg said:
 i apologize for the shitty pic ill try to make them better for the next updates
a bit over saturated i fucked up moisture content of the sub, its weird i didn't notice the saturation on the caps / darkening of caps until this stage of fruiting. I took out poly from one of the top holes and manually fan every so often. about to harvest. Im really happy with what the first flush is looking like i used bacterial cotam'd spawn, kept temps cold during colonization and fruiting but Im also not using a trash bag at the bottom of the tubs and it being the temp it is I'm probably getting less evaporation than i should be.
I spawned 2 1/2 quarts of contam'd spawn to a half brick coir + 1 quart of verm + gypsum
just looking for some opinions, tell me how it looks, if I'm doing good, if I'm doing bad! I finally have clean iso's that have been spawned to masters and my (Clean) bulk dream will shortly come true.
i ended up stretching out 10 contam'd jars to around 30 and am using them as I am not patient enough to wait for this step ( i really wanted to practice and get good at the proper pasteurization) and have read bacterial contams don't do anything to us when dried. In this tub there ended up being only 1 mutant or whatever, and it looks like the boobies mutant almost identical to a post/picture in the "what it should and shouldn't look like's" mutant section XD
anyways I have a got more tubs still in colonization, mostly in the dark, just now I've taken them outta the garbage bags and letting light hit them, I didn't do that with the last tub but I manually' d fanned as soon as i introduced into fruiting conditions. I made the moisture content of the new tubs way lower than the first. truthfully it was an accident i used too much water for what little coir.. Is that a decent pin set? this was MS too. MS into a few grain to grains and then finally to tubs anyways. Im also about thinking of using wax paper for my very next tub. although truthfully I am very happy with my results thus far.
Looks like the genetics were pretty even throughout the tub. mostly just a bunch of clusters consisting of 2mushrooms. Nothing worth cloning right? I was also wondering why some of the caps are darker than others too? not just because spores have been landing on them but that is something I noticed before veils started breaking. Im assuming they just begin getting lighter in colour as they mature? and am I supposed to remove all the aborts and everything when i harvest? im not 100% but i think i remember something RR may have said about rehydration of the sub and bringing those mushrooms that stopped growing with the sub along to the 2nd flush please correct me if I'm wrong! so u see how theyre all different sizes, or well some of them, do I harvest those smaller ones with them? or wait a bit longer for there caps to open up too? I don't care about potency going for quantity and is it possible to harvest the more mature ones, let those smaller ones grow out, then rehydrate and go into 2nd flush?
ALSO before i forget, on ONE of the corners of the tub (possibly where moisture drips down into the tub) 2 or 3 of the small mushies there have what looks like aerial myc, or fuzzy feet only at the base of the stems, and the other one has what looks like super soaked myc at the base and is puffy/wet looking anything to worry about?
EDIT: I just read somewhere the mushroom retain more water at this stage in their life. ahhh since my sub is undoubtably over saturated shud I just harvest everything now?
If you want people to answer any questions you have, you need to make your posts shorter. No one is gonna remember every single question in a post that long and they are definitely not gonna read it all again to see if they missed any (I didn't even read it thoroughly once, I just skimmed it).
Anyway, it's not a bad grow, as long as you are getting some fruits, the learning curve is more important than the yield at first. One question of yours that stuck was if it was worth cloning the ones that grew in 2 shroom clusters. If you like the size, shape and speed of the mushroom, it wouldn't be a bad idea to clone it. If you don't have much clones to test, you've got nothing better to do anyway. I've cloned mad clusters from my MS PE grows and still get shitty results. There is still some luck involved so you really don't know what you're gonna get.
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