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AK1000
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Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet 1
#23518829 - 08/07/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This post has changed my life: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method
Everything is done in the jars. Everything starts in the jars and ends with the jars.
I wish I never messed with monotubs at this point or messed with spawn bags. This is such a beautiful way of growing. The only difference is, instead of using quart jars with lids, you use quart jars with lids that you can twist to lock or twist open slightly which provides fresh air exchange to signal fruiting.
Anyway, hope that helps. If anyone has any newer teks that work with this style, please let me know because this is the only post I know of that lays it out. I'm curious about using rye grass seed (instead of rye grain now) since it doesn't even require mixing with anything else.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: AK1000]
#23518927 - 08/07/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's definitely one way to skin a cat.
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fungi-funguy
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23547104 - 08/16/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive needed to try that it looks so easy! I wonder if you can do it with just quart jars?
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blackout


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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: fungi-funguy] 1
#23547128 - 08/16/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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fungi-funguy said: Ive needed to try that it looks so easy! I wonder if you can do it with just quart jars?
You could but the plastic is probably better. Most plastic containers are made by injection moulding, this is why they are tapered outwards at the top, so it can easily fall out of the mould, like why ice cube trays are tapered. This wide mouth means it it much easier to harvest the shrooms.
The plastic containers with screw on lids usually have taller lids than glass jars too, so it's easier to get away with leaving them cracked open as the contams have less chance of drifting upwards, under the lid, and along the threads and getting into the jar. To overcome this risk with glass jars I leave plastic sandwich bags over the jars, I have also smeared the upper section of the jar and bag with vaseline so any contams that do drift up will hopefully stick to the moist vaseline.
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: AK1000]
#23547220 - 08/16/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I mean it works but was invitro grain grows really some kind of big secret before this tek. I mean for the work why wouldnt you want to spawn to CVG. For the little nonsterile work you would have to do it greatly increases your yield. Plus ime the wait for invitro to fruit is much longer.
Edited by theGODSmademedoit (08/16/16 03:28 PM)
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
#23547261 - 08/16/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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glad it's working out for you. Got any pics of your success?
looks like too much work to me, but to each it's own.
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AK1000
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: Kenetic] 1
#23548038 - 08/16/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I mean for the work why wouldnt you want to spawn to CVG.
For the work? It requires almost no work. So why would you say that? It requires only 3 things: Those ziplock containers, grass seed from any garden store, and a pressure cooker. Inoculate it with whatever medium you got in a still air box and you're set. NO monotubs, no CVG, no boiling water, etc.
I could boil the grass, do a full run in my AA 941 with 14 of these containers at once, have it be cooled enough to inoculate them in the SAB with other grain and be done in 4 hours flat. Then I don't need to do A SINGLE THING for a week or two until it's completely colonized and consolidated. When I want it to fruit, I twist the twist-lid by an inch and that's enough to create enough FAE for the pinning to begin. NO fuss, no, muss, seriously. If you want a larger flush, you add some water ("bottom-watering") and the mycelium will suck it up from the bottom and provide it to the mushrooms. It's astounding simple. So simple in fact that you could gift one of these containers to your friend and give them the experience of seeing mushrooms grow. Anyway, I will update later and let you know what my yield is like.
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: AK1000] 1
#23548061 - 08/16/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kenetic said: Got any pics of your success?
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AK1000 said: no
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: cronicr]
#23548068 - 08/16/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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fungi-funguy
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: blackout]
#23548083 - 08/16/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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blackout said:
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fungi-funguy said: Ive needed to try that it looks so easy! I wonder if you can do it with just quart jars?
You could but the plastic is probably better. Most plastic containers are made by injection moulding, this is why they are tapered outwards at the top, so it can easily fall out of the mould, like why ice cube trays are tapered. This wide mouth means it it much easier to harvest the shrooms.
The plastic containers with screw on lids usually have taller lids than glass jars too, so it's easier to get away with leaving them cracked open as the contams have less chance of drifting upwards, under the lid, and along the threads and getting into the jar. To overcome this risk with glass jars I leave plastic sandwich bags over the jars, I have also smeared the upper section of the jar and bag with vaseline so any contams that do drift up will hopefully stick to the moist vaseline.
Ahh makes sense. But are you supposed to even worry about contams once theyre fully colonized? Also Would you get more fruit if your sub was closer to the top and just place those two liter bottles over it so the shrooms could grow past the top? It should be to hard to harvest if the sub goes to the top, no? Thanks for the tips blackout!
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: Inocuole]
#23548108 - 08/16/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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AK1000 what you need to understand is that the greatest risk in the hobby comes with the grain. Bad inoculation, a bad sterilization run, filter fail, are all areas where the grain can be contamed. To create grain spawn is the hardest part and because of that we want the most yield per volume of grain prepared as soon as possible.
Bulk will give you far more yield all up front. Cased grain methods like V tek are safer in one respect because the colony remains unbroken. But you will need to wait for weeks over many flushes to see the yield a mono can put out with the same amount of grain in one flush. Spawning to bulk requires far better practice than unbroken cased grain but, the trade off is far more yield far quicker. Monos are also more self sufficient and need far less maintenance.
If you only want small amounts and are content with having lots of inoculations and more babysitting then V tek is a really good and foolproof method. But I have yet to see anyone put out the same yield as quickly and in as small a space as a well run mono.
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: fungi-funguy] 1
#23553344 - 08/18/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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fungi-funguy said: But are you supposed to even worry about contams once theyre fully colonized?
You are right, you do not have to worry much. I wrongly presumed she told you to crack the lid before full colonization, but it seems she does not. I have been doing some tests recently to see how little gas exchange you can get away with. If the jar is only partially filled I thought there would be enough air to get it colonised, however mine did stall and I had to crack the jars and growth took off again.
If you want minimal effort you should look at growing sclerotia/stones/truffles, they should have a higher yield per jar over the same time.
Edited by blackout (08/18/16 01:51 PM)
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Re: Looking for a fool proof with minimal work and great yield? Check out the PODS TEK by Violet [Re: cronicr] 1
#23553383 - 08/18/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kenetic said: Got any pics of your success?
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AK1000 said: no
Tubs

Small tub

Bottle TEK(ala mudafuka and pastywhyte based)

And V-tek

I would go with one of the first 3. Less work or at the very least equal amount of work. And more results
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