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Imagine.. A future drug dilemma 1
#23518612 - 08/07/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Imagine..
You enter Other Drugs Discussion and it is ablaze with threads about a drug you never heard about. A new Big Drug is found, a new drug revolution has begun.
Its a drug that does something which you probably find extremely interesting.
In low doses it makes you feel really good in a special way. Psychological issues appear to melt away when you are on it because you in a very relaxed and functional way feel quite OK
In high doses it is visionary in a special way, spectacular visuals and profound experiences and no bad trips - so to say, you dine on mount Olympus among the Gods. 
But - whether you dose low or high, it appears to be practically nontoxic, non habit forming and tolerance of intense use reverts rapidly. It appears to be safe to use in an euphoric dose every day and in an entheogenic dose every weekend.
Its epic. A Super Drug. Theres nothing like it. A game changer.
You read that this drug was originally invented by a pharmaceutical company as a potential cross between an antidepressant and analgesic, and they market it in low doses for those purposes, and in high doses its experimented with as a visionary psychotherapy drug to deal with psychiatric issues.
You hear members you know for years go on about how it helps them to quit their addictions, deal with their life issues and boredom and how they harp to no end about how good it feels in low dose and how mystical the high doses are. They also appear to function better, get better grades, are more positive people and all because of.. that.
You also hear that all the RC companies start to sell it too, for very attractive prices. Five grams for two hundred dollars, meaning you can get high and stay high for a entire year for about 150 bucks and do all that with a hefty trip in the weekend too for the 200 neat.
What do you do?
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante]
#23518651 - 08/07/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The Shroomery wasnt around in the mid 80s but MDMA kinda was a super drug back in the day. Super drugs will be invented ever more often and chances are they will get evermore Super as science gets a better grasp on how to tailor molecules to our nervous systems.
Something like this will happen inevitably - that we witness the birth of a Super Drug which becomes a complete game changer, like LSD was, like MDMA was, like Ketamine was.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante]
#23518663 - 08/07/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ketamine was a game changer?
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: ModestMouse]
#23518684 - 08/07/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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For a segment of the party population, it for sure was. Here was a drug that made you very intoxicated like alcohol and quite trippy, yet could be used intensely on weekend parties.
Ketamine brought its own scene, it enabled you to get smashed like you drank a fifth of vodka, trip out hard without having bad trips yet a few hours later, be sober and drive home safely. 
That was a game changer and many switched from alcohol and MDMA to K.
Of course the granddaddy of game changers was LSD.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante]
#23518861 - 08/07/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chances are I would wait for people whose word on these kinds of things I trusted to try it out for themselves before getting a nice heaping pile for myself. Thats what I've done in the past for nearly every RC I've wound up trying.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Cj-B]
#23518890 - 08/07/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The drug you're describing sounds like MXE when I first heard about it and first joined up here, and I hopped on that quick.
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Yes Mxe was and still is hailed as the next big thing. It can be used at a variety of dosages for different occasions, it doesn't spike tolerance fast, and it's nearly safe.
Unfortunately no one sees it fit to make it anymore I miss how lucky it made me feel. I always felt like I was on the verge of a life milestone or some shit after consecutive days of dosing... Like it was helping connect me to good fortune. Many times, oddly enough, it did. I got 2 different jobs, both of which were great stepping stones around the time of my two MXE binges.
Still I am hesitant with the stuff after having my ass handed to me on multiple occasions
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Quote:
hex_enduction said: The drug you're describing sounds like MXE when I first heard about it and first joined up here, and I hopped on that quick.
Same here... ahhh.. good times in WCA.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: falsereality]
#23518964 - 08/07/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If a few people whos opinions I trust on the matter said it was worth a go, I give it a go.
Has happened before, and will happen again.
Haven't been disappointed so far.
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Is this "future drug" MXE?
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Definitely not. MXE is not all it was cracked up to be. But one day soon there will be a drug that will take the world by storm and change EVERYTHING.
Personally I think it will start as a pharmaceutical.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante] 2
#23519009 - 08/07/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said: Definitely not. MXE is not all it was cracked up to be.
Am I just really high and daydrinking, or did you just diss MXE?
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante]
#23519089 - 08/07/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would wait to see the kinds of effects it has on people.
Are they able to control their use? Does it give them long lasting side effects or delusions? How much do they run through at a time and how quickly? Does their use cause them any problems in their lives?
If it was a totally new class of drugs, then I'd probably try it eventually if the above questions panned out well. If it was not a totally new class, then I'd want to know about what receptors it was targeting etc. before deciding.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: falsereality]
#23519103 - 08/07/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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falsereality said:
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Asante said: Definitely not. MXE is not all it was cracked up to be.
Am I just really high and daydrinking, or did you just diss MXE?
No I'm just being realistic about it, being 5 years and about 2 ounces in. In the beginning there were wild stories of hope that fell through. It didnt overcome permatolerance, it still is quite addictive and, well, it can't do it all.
I respect the crap out of it but, it cannot do it all.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante]
#23519111 - 08/07/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The situation in the OP isn't really what I would describe as a dilemma. You described a super drug, that has no negative side-effects and cures depression and drug dependence. What dilemma would there be taking this miracle drug?
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: PatrickKn]
#23519130 - 08/07/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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They said the same thing about Heroin.
Can something be that good and really be.. good?
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante]
#23519140 - 08/07/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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People have a hard time controlling anything, food, procrastination, etc. I can only imagine just how little self control people would have if they ran across a genuine wonder drug.
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Re: Imagine.. A future drug dilemma [Re: Asante]
#23519142 - 08/07/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It sounds great, but Id wait untill the decades of users showed their age I also am conservative about rc's, refined compounds(pure psilo, dmt, wax)
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