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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23523651 - 08/08/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Assuming blacks are only 13% of the population so they only commit 13% of crime is where the fallacy occurs, it's imply not true and they actually commit a much higher percentage of crime and therefore are gonna have higher incarceration rates, it makes total sense to anyone not stuck on "crying racism" all the time
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23523658 - 08/08/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sophistic Radiance said: It is systemic racism if it disproportionately targets blacks.
are black a disproportionate amount of the crime?
are they arrested in proportion to the amount of crime they commit?
They do not commit a disproportionate amount of nonviolent drug offenses and they are not arrested in proportion to the amount of drug crime they commit. The degree to which they are targeted by drug laws is vastly disproportionate. I wouldn't know, but I can imagine that getting years in prison for selling pot on a street corner can harden a man.
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once again, you simply arent asking the questions, you're making the assumptions because they told you what to believe and you want to believe they tell the truth
I think you just don't ask as many questions as I do
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This is why the race card is so effective, it's literally impossible to prove something DOESN'T exist, the race hustlers can keep bitching about it all day long knowing full well proving a non existent fact is impossible,
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You just regurgitated something I said in another thread without any apparent regard for context
I mean, it's impressive, but also kinda weird
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Sophistic Radiance said: You just regurgitated something I said in another thread without any apparent regard for context
I mean, it's impressive, but also kinda weird
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Sophistic Radiance said: It is systemic racism if it disproportionately targets blacks.
are black a disproportionate amount of the crime?
are they arrested in proportion to the amount of crime they commit?
They do not commit a disproportionate amount of nonviolent drug offenses and they are not arrested in proportion to the amount of drug crime they commit. The degree to which they are targeted by drug laws is vastly disproportionate. I wouldn't know, but I can imagine that getting years in prison for selling pot on a street corner can harden a man.
hahaha. how do you know they dont commit a disproportionate amount of the drug crimes? did you survey them? I mean hell, it's ingrained into the urban culture, nearly ever rap song is about fucking hos, shooting people and drugs. they emulate what they're seeing because it's easy money and a rep. a real jump start to their rap career
as was already shown to you, they make themselves targets by selling drugs on the street to anyone that pulls up, they have their kids with them half the time, and they have their kids delivering the drugs, that's another of those little extras that warrant their higher sentences. it's not something you see white people do in every poor community. it seems whitey understands the value of staying out of the police's camera lens, if they can video you actually passing the drugs then they have to do an actual investigation and set up buys, get a warrant, etc...
when you're on the street corner dealing to anyone that rolls up, you eliminate the work for the cops, they could be the ones rolling up and buying the drugs
as crazy as it sounds, whites tend to get busted far more often in prostitution stings, maybe that racism too
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once again, you simply arent asking the questions, you're making the assumptions because they told you what to believe and you want to believe they tell the truth
I think you just don't ask as many questions as I do 
and just which questions would you be asking, how to get to the bathroom? how can a McDonalds ad for french fries be spun as a false racism allegation? how can I convince people I've been victimized today?
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23523828 - 08/09/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: This is why the race card is so effective, it's literally impossible to prove something DOESN'T exist, the race hustlers can keep bitching about it all day long knowing full well proving a non existent fact is impossible,
it's easy to prove this isnt happening as they claim, they'll just say you're wrong and stick their fingers in their ears and scream LALALALALALALA to drown you out
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Sophistic Radiance said: I think you just don't ask as many questions as I do 
No, he asks more. And the questions he asks are far more probing.
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: luvdemshrooms] 3
#23524012 - 08/09/16 05:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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And I know how much you enjoy being probed by Pris
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Weird how the #alllivesmatter crowd nevers shows up for rallies and protests and whatnot.
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Sophistic Radiance said: And I know how much you enjoy being probed by Pris
Ah, a gay inference. Why am I not surprised?
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Sophistic Radiance said: It is systemic racism if it disproportionately targets blacks.
are black a disproportionate amount of the crime?
are they arrested in proportion to the amount of crime they commit?
They do not commit a disproportionate amount of nonviolent drug offenses and they are not arrested in proportion to the amount of drug crime they commit. The degree to which they are targeted by drug laws is vastly disproportionate. I wouldn't know, but I can imagine that getting years in prison for selling pot on a street corner can harden a man.
so, first blacks are discriminated against by the cops. then you claim it's the justice system. now you are specifically claiming that DRUG LAWS somehow target black people
do you actually listen to/read these things as you post them?
next you're going to be claiming video-cameras discriminate against blacks by recording them more than whites
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This is more of a socially economic issue . If you look at every factor besides race the biggest indicator of wither someone will end up in jail is purely economic or a mental health issue.
Background and upbringing have more to do with this issue then skin pigmentation.
#Poorlivesdontmatter

Native Americans have a higher rate of poverty then those with darker skin why doesnt that matter? At least with the African Americans they found usefully for labor.
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: trekie]
#23524428 - 08/09/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This cant be true, as there are any less poor black americans, and they commit an insane amount of crime
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: Turtletotem]
#23524457 - 08/09/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Weird how the #alllivesmatter crowd nevers shows up for rallies and protests and whatnot.
Prolly because they have jobs, enjoy their free time, and don't wanna burn their cities to the ground
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There are black people on the street I live on. One goes to University and plays football, a nice guy. Another works and appears to own his own house, a nice guy. The third doesn't seem to do anything other than a little drug dealing. None of them are into protesting that I'm aware of. Protesting BLM is for those that have some education and have been inspired by intelligent black people.
I sat next to a girl on the greyhound once. She was reading Malcom X. I was tired and had been on the bus awake for 3 or 4 days (a total of 5 days to get to Norcal). She was kinda bitchy and racist and I think she's exactly what is behind any black awareness movement. Sorta played nice but the 'your the white devil' attitude.
I also called a helper in a mental ward the n word once. Everyone really freaked out and they called security. I tried to attack the security guy and they all brought me to the ground. Next thing I know I'm tied up in bed after being injected with mind altering drugs thru the ankle. All because I used the n word to some lady who wouldn't mind her own business.
Cannot really be racist at all to any degree these days. They give you the old thorazine or haldol.
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: demiu5]
#23524484 - 08/09/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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demiu5 said: do you actually listen to/read these things as you post them?
Did you even have to ask or were you just being polite?
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next you're going to be claiming video-cameras discriminate against blacks by recording them more than whites
That would be no surprise.
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#23524489 - 08/09/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did you even have to ask or were you just being polite?
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next you're going to be claiming video-cameras discriminate against blacks by recording them more than whites
That would be no surprise.
*extremely polite
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#23524496 - 08/09/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Weird how the #alllivesmatter crowd nevers shows up for rallies and protests and whatnot.
Believe it or not, the vast majority of all US citizens don't think there's a problem with unjustifiable police killings of innocent Americans.
Michael Brown was a violent thug that tried to kill a cop, other than a few radical idiots that said Wilson killed him for no reason, the evidence and majority of people realized nothing wrong took place, in fact if Brown was alive he would be charged with attempted murder.
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Re: Do you believe that #BlackLivesMatter? [Re: qman]
#23524580 - 08/09/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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what about, non-criminal lives matter? That makes mre sense. Im only refering to actual crimes, like murder, raping, stealing, abuse, not made up crimes like smoking pot or whatever though, if you sell heroin or crack, I really dont mind yo being locked up. That stuff is poison, and most people are too stupid or pathetic to use it responsibly. I havent me a single one, and my town is a heroin and crack town, plus pills. Pills are popular all over
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