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Cherub
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How to use mushrooms to quit smoking
#23518077 - 08/07/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is going to sound really stupid, but I'm wondering how to use mushrooms to aid me in quitting smoking cigarettes? Can I make a playlist with videos of lung cancer and stuff and watch it while tripping, or are there other methods people use?
All four of my grandparents died from lung related illnesses due to smoking, and now my uncle is moving in next door who is dying from the same thing. He might have a few months left. I need to quit now, I can't be smoking cigarettes knowing he's on his death bed smelling it, he's still struggling to quit himself.
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: Cherub]
#23518154 - 08/07/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the mushrooms would make the withdrawal more intense.
My recommendation are:
(1) to prepare yourself to suffer for a week and then quit cold turkey
(2) get rid of all you cigarettes, lighter and matches
(3) try not to hang around people who smoke
One week and you are mostly done. Nothing more to it.
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: CaptainCrunchy]
#23518203 - 08/07/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take a small dose (0.75g dried and potent, or less) and check out the book 'the easy way to stop smoking' by Alan carr. Shrooms are optional but may help.
Audiobook is available too, pirate it and then buy it if it works.
I had great success with the audiobook.
Edited by namelessidea (08/07/16 09:30 AM)
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: namelessidea]
#23518225 - 08/07/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personally, I just kept doing trips every two weeks to a month and I no longer had the craving. Didn't try any scare tactics or audio books, the need to smoke went right away. Now I'm three years clean.
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: CaptainCrunchy]
#23518306 - 08/07/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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CaptainCrunchy said: I think the mushrooms would make the withdrawal more intense.
My recommendation are:
(1) to prepare yourself to suffer for a week and then quit cold turkey
Going cold turkey is the absolute worst way to quit anything
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namelessidea
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CaptainCrunchy said: I think the mushrooms would make the withdrawal more intense.
My recommendation are:
(1) to prepare yourself to suffer for a week and then quit cold turkey
Going cold turkey is the absolute worst way to quit anything
I disagree, in particular regarding tobacco, for withdrawing slowly will ensure that you keep perceiving the substance as precious. When, really, one should be changing their perception of the substance to a more realistic one - that it is harmful and not as pleasurable as previously perceived (except for when relieving withdrawal).
I tried many times to stop smoking and i was never able to stop by cutting down - cold turkey was the only way. That may just be me though.
Just get it over and done with. Make your decision - are you better off with the substance, or without it? And then stick with your decision.
Edited by namelessidea (08/07/16 01:06 PM)
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: namelessidea]
#23519677 - 08/07/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's easier said than done. Much easier to just taper off because the withdrawals will slowly get less and less severe. I'm not sure if cigs are different but when it comes to other drugs like heroin or even just weed you're gonna wanna slowly taper off not just quit all of a sudden. That can set off major chemical imbalances in your brain.
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Personally, I just kept doing trips every two weeks to a month and I no longer had the craving. Didn't try any scare tactics or audio books, the need to smoke went right away. Now I'm three years clean.
great success story, this is why the mushrooms hold power, or at least give you the power to see the faults in your ways
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: ergoticmandala]
#23520260 - 08/07/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Use the mushroom to learn how to love yourself and be conscious and mindful, then you will not desire to do anything that harms yourself.
I find that I have become spiritually conscious I can't enjoy using drugs in ways that are harmful to myself anymore, and I have tried. Where's the fun in doing something that hurts you? Its only when youre half conscious that you enjoy such a thing. Once you become conscious enough to see the pathology of it, it stops being enjoyable.
i also would add, and this is my opinion/experience but I take a somewhat unique approach in that I believe that tobacco is also a healing/entheogenic plant which has been misunderstood and misused. So I recommend attempting to heal your relationship with tobacco. this could consist of growing your own tobacco, using tobacco in meditation and prayer, using chewing tobacco or snuff. Basically you need to break the association of tobacco with your addictive behavior and re associate it with something positive or beneficial. You wouldn't be so quick to abuse tobacco if you considered it a sacred plant.
ANd lastly I want to comment on the Allen Carr book. This is a good book that has helped a lot of people quit smoking. It contains lots of good arguments that help you see through your psychological rasons for smoking and see that the benefits you think it has are illusory.
However I have never been able to get fully behind Allan Carr because while I agree that most of the perceived benefit of addiction are illusory, I refuse to believe that tobacco itself has no benefits.
ALlen Carr's book relies too heavily on the hypotheses that the smoker derives no benefit from tobacco other than relieving withdrawal. This was almost certainly true in Allen's case as he supposedly smoked over 100 cigarettes a day. WHen you get to that level of dependence on a substance, then indeed it has no benefits and the only "benefit" is relief from withdrawal.
But I disagree that this is the case is a less addicted person. As I said above, I consider tobacco a healing/sacred herb and I would argue that it does have some beneficial effects, even when abused. For example, it increases alertness, relieves anxiety, and increases perception of pleasure. True these effects disappear with tolerance as ALlen Carr says but not all smokers are at the point of complete tolerance where they derive no benefits, like ALlen Carr seems to assume.
His book the easy way to stop drinking suffers from this same flaw. In this book he claims that alcohol really isn't enjoyable on its own and it's the social situations that we associate alcohol with that make us think we need alcohol to have a good time. That's obviously not true for me, because I used to prefer drinking alone and I would definitely experience relief from anxiety and euphoria from alcohol even drinking it by myself. Its possible ALLen Carr never experienced the levels of anxiety and depression that many substance abusers are seeking relief from and that's why he doesn't see the substances as providing any benefits.
Despite this, I still recommend his books. WHy? Because he does a very good job helping you realize that drinking and smoking aren't that great and stopping doesnt mean youre "missing out" on some great pleasure you cant afford to live without. you were simply conditioned, either by society or by your own deluded thinking, into thinking that substances can make you happy/that you need them.
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Edited by Peyote Road (08/07/16 09:06 PM)
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: ergoticmandala]
#23520341 - 08/07/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The hardest part of quitting cigarettes for me was the withdrawal, the want to smoke is there but not as powerful. Using nicotine patches for a couple weeks helped the withdrawal symptoms subside while I adjusted to not smoking. Still felt weird not having one after dinner, or while drinking coffee for a while, but there was no urge.
Didn't feel any withdrawal once stopping patches, either. They have different mg's in patches so you can start on the right amount and taper down accordingly. It was the best method for me, as it gave me time to break the habit without crippling withdrawal
I reckon if you tripped in conjunction with patches, the trip might give you an extra boost to go through with it and help you understand your habit better, in order to break it easier.
Whatever you do, Goodluck
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: Cherub]
#23520375 - 08/07/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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First you gotta eat a lot of shrooms and smoke the whole time, as much as you can, for the come up, then when you start bad tripping over how you hate smoking you immediately pop a piece of nicotine gum in your mouth and truly believe that it just saved your life- hold a piece in your hands and bless it. It works subconsciously. The "cigs are bad" message will sink in. Paul Stamets quit stuttering after a mega dose of shrooms. And no I'm not kidding.
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: ByCoverOfNight]
#23520398 - 08/07/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ByCoverOfNight said: First you gotta eat a lot of shrooms and smoke the whole time, as much as you can, for the come up, then when you start bad tripping over how you hate smoking you immediately pop a piece of nicotine gum in your mouth and truly believe that it just saved your life- hold a piece in your hands and bless it. It works subconsciously. The "cigs are bad" message will sink in. Paul Stamets quit stuttering after a mega dose of shrooms. And no I'm not kidding.
yeah the subconscious tricks really work
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Re: How to use mushrooms to quit smoking [Re: Peyote Road]
#23521421 - 08/08/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have done it cold turkey, its hard (psychologically not in a physical way as heroin) at the beginning...and after two weeks or something the urge to smoke was still there but it was fading and when i smoked a cigarette after quiting it didnt feel good at all, not physically or mentally. Its easier said than done but once you get over the 1st 2nd week you ll get over it and little by little this feeling that you want to smoke will fade.
You can do it man, anyone can...its been three years now for me.
Cigs are one of the worest meaningless things out there, they dont taste, smell or feel good and they destroy your health, makes your breath and clothes smell bad and it waste your money bigtime with out any real benefits...yea they can stimulate you just a little, but the disadvantages are waaaaay more than its benefits.
And ALOT of people around the world smoke, what a creazy species! Lets not also forget how the governments and smoking companies profit from such a thing.
And yea mushrooms can definitely help with addictions of any kind.
Good luck mate
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