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OfflineSpiritwithin
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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: demiu5]
    #23519290 - 08/07/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
"My advice to you..."




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demiu5 said:
strong drink or strong pods





Isn't there some other thread for you to unload in?


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23519294 - 08/07/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, are we the thought police?  Just trying to bring a little levity to a rather depressing thread.  Chill bro.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23519301 - 08/07/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No, not thought police.
Idk. Whatever. Maybe OP laughs at this.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23519305 - 08/07/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow, are we the thought police?  Just trying to bring a little levity to a rather depressing thread.  Chill bro.





why is this thread depressing?


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: demiu5]
    #23519315 - 08/07/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's not depressing.
It's just kinda serious.

WOAHH... 39.000 posts?  :bow2:


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: demiu5]
    #23519317 - 08/07/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Extreme pain and the impetus for suicide are not cheerful subjects to me.  Call me crazy.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23519325 - 08/07/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spiritwithin said:
It's not depressing.
It's just kinda serious.

WOAHH... 39.000 posts?  :bow2:





most of those were in otd and have no bearing on much of anything.  good times, though




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Extreme pain and the impetus for suicide are not cheerful subjects to me.  Call me crazy.





i understand.  not being cheerful does not = depressing in my world.  to each their own


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23519367 - 08/07/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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My ulcerative colitis from several years ago has returned, and with it, a much higher risk of colorectal cancer.

The point of this post, is that I don't really care anymore. This last year has been excruciatingly painful emotionally. So much so that I literally wanted out, but could not do that to my family.

When the symptoms returned, I was like "Good! Maybe I can finally find some relief." Now no one really wants to die a slow, painful death, but I just want the deep ache to stop.

Am I a coward to not want any medical treatment? To just let things take their "natural" course and be done with it?




Einstein had cancer of the brain and refused treatment, so no its not cowardly. Intelligent preparation in case of severe pain might be useful - BUT you seem to have emotional issues as well, so making a distinction between physical pain, and emotional pain would seem highly worthwhile. Since there is emotional pain it also seems worthwhile to have an objective prognosis of factors pertaining to the disease, and in particular the effects of diet, and possibly a fast. I have done many long fasts. The body's ability to heal and repair many ailments while fasting is astounding, and unknown to the majority in the medical profession.

Psychological therapy which you mention having problems with, is of course a methodology that involves some degree of dependence on another - possibly a lot. Vipassana meditation on the other hand makes one more independent. Vipassana meditation has a specific methodology, and is not vague. It is also medically documented to be helpful.

I expect neither fasting (primarily for the physical side) nor meditation (for possible 'sorting'/clarification/resolving emotional issues) appeals to you, and only mention them, because due to random circumstances (1) I know them both from personal experience to be not only worthwhile, but interesting and (2) you may find considering impending death changes your perspective on both what you think you know about life, and how willing you might be to widen your horizons, & (3) attempting to remain the same, is considered by many, to already be a form of death, but who knows?


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: laughingdog]
    #23520278 - 08/07/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Before you end it (i won't blame you if you choose to btw) you may want to try this:

First, Fast for 2 to 3 days with a colon cleanse on day 1 being sure to stay hydrated. This removed a lot of crap that can interfere with the treatment efficiency.

Next, Take some colchicine dayly until it makes you feel sick, you can get it easily off the net. Don't over do it, stop when it feels like you have UC like symptoms again. It sounds homeopathic but it is not, this drug is a mild chemotherapy that is used to treat gout by inducing mild immune system suppression. In combination with the fast it gives your immune system a reset.

Make sure to drink plenty of water and take electrolytes until you feel better. Pediolite or similar is good, but NO high fructose corn syrup though! The next day, make a strong tea with tumeric and syrian rue with 1000mg of vitamin C added. It will taste nasty but will help. Tumeric as much as you like or can stomach, syrian rue no more than 3 grams of seed. What this does is give a mood lift, and also has strong antibiotic properties that help prevent a bacterial bloom in your guts that would negate the treatment efficiency.


Finally, Take some milk thistle seed powder mixed into a yogurt and fruit smoothie a day later, and resume your diet when ready. Milk thistle seed causes your liver to purge toxins that may have triggered the relapse.

Adding some cannabis can possibly extend and maintain remission. This treatment in general helps most autoimmune disorders. Good luck and hope this helps.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23520696 - 08/07/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks to all posters for your understanding and empathy. I will consider your perspectives and suggestions. :heart:


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23520713 - 08/07/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

if you do end your life, would you please inform us, and not just leave us wondering what happened in your absence?


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: demiu5]
    #23520782 - 08/07/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you figure out a way to inform us post-action, a glimpse across the veil would also be pretty cool...

Can't say I'm a huge fan of the cleanse idea, those have a tendency to be placebos...Most of the "crap" the comes out is actually just balls of the fat ingredient in your cleanse mix interacting with the other ingredients and becoming hard balls of cholesterol/fat as they travel through your intestines. Of course, placebos are usually pretty good medication, so, I would say do what you feel needs to be done.

This entire thread reminded me of the intervention scene in the beginning of Breaking Bad.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: Kryptos]
    #23521034 - 08/08/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No offence op but i feel your physical pain i suffer form uc and other ailments. But step up. Either work to be high all the time so the pain is less in which you dont care about anything. Or if death is what you want do something to increase your pain so you die of shock in which no one is then hurt by your suicide. My uc is alway active when i eat rice. So if i want to die i just eat two bowls of rice. But im sure your trigger is different. Suicide is not selfishness at all, population is to high for resources left on earth. Human beings need at our core to feel important without that, we are nothing. Be something or don't you know Whats right.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: LRG] * 1
    #23521445 - 08/08/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Suicide is incredibly selfish.




I disagree. Saying that is just a way to make the poor candidate for suicide feel guilty. On top of everything else.

It's only selfish if others totally rely on you for their own existence and/or happiness. Which is always wrong anyways, except for children.
And if you have people around you who truly love you for what and who you are... you wouldn't think about suicide anyways.




Good they should feel guilty. Then they should face that guilt and apologize to everyone they love for thinking about it. Suicide is the ultimate form of weakness. When it rains it pours, and the real question is what will you do when that storm approaches. Free will is the reason we are here.





An even weaker person imo than someone who commits suicide is one who attempts suicide and doesn't quite make it through the gate of death, and then tells people what they should feel about suicide because he or she is more experienced with the situation :rolleyes:


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23522398 - 08/08/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow, are we the thought police?  Just trying to bring a little levity to a rather depressing thread.  Chill bro.






OC no more microwave popcorn, even in a suicide attempt!  It's just wrong, bro.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23523638 - 08/08/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wash down some metamucil with some sort of probiotic slurry daily. Or better than metamucil half an orange including the peel, all chewed well.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23523735 - 08/09/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Death by organic salsa is The Way!


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23523815 - 08/09/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That doesn't make any sense at all.


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: yeah]
    #23523854 - 08/09/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Take it up with Mr. Microwave Popcorn. He started it... :razz:


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Re: Passive Suicide [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23523969 - 08/09/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lol


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