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OfflineMrBlueYoMind
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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
    #23515872 - 08/06/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm pretty sure telling the whole world that if someone were to nuke America that we WOULDN'T retaliate with equal force is quite a foolish/weak position.

I didn't see anything in the video that said "Trump wants to nuke people" only that he would not refuse to nuke someone else if they nuked us. 

And it ought to be clarified WHY we shouldn't retaliate to a country that nuked us.  I mean I understand the destruction of the planet is horrible and I'm not condoning the use of nukes, but I am saying to tell everyone that we wouldn't would be a position of weakness.

But yes, this is quite a conundrum we are in.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 3
    #23515879 - 08/06/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I heard his plan to make American great again was to leave the country, if that's the case he has my vote.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Crystal G]
    #23515919 - 08/06/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Trump apparently asked a foreign policy expert why "we can't just use nukes."

I can totally see him accidentally starting a huge war somewhere. And when the shitstorm starts brewing, Donald will probably say, "Can nobody ever take a joke these days anymore? This is everything that's wrong with America!"



No he asked him 3 times consecutively :facepalm: He is adamant that he thinks nuclear retaliation "should not be taken off the table" he also said he is "more willing them any other president in history to use our nuclear arsenal in specific regions like the Middle East.

If you think I'm lying I can find the clips where he says it verbatim


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #23515928 - 08/06/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Everything I hate about Donald trump has been the words out of his own mouth. Supporters say you're just watching liberal news. First off I rarely watch news/polotics and secondly I don't believe almost anything I see on t.v. His own words are damning enough imo


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23515936 - 08/06/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If nuclear retaliation were off the table for any other president, then why do we still have them? :cookiemonster:

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
    #23516006 - 08/06/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
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Absolutely not true,” he said in an interview with Fox News. “The idea that he’s trying to understand where to use nuclear weapons? It just didn’t happen. I was in the meeting, it didn’t happen.”




How exactly does he know if he was in the meeting?




what meeting, was he elected as president and attended a meeting on security policy



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Scarborough simply said the meeting was with an unnamed advisor many months ago.




of course, since a mega progressive political commentator says an unnamed source
said it was true then it must be true, that must mean that everything we see in
fox broadcasting is true

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Why does nobody pay attention to these details. The only way he would know what meeting Scarborough was talking is if trump actually did ask that question. Manifort is lying. He does that a lot.





but political comentators citing unnamed sources never lie


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23516164 - 08/06/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If nuclear retaliation were off the table for any other president, then why do we still have them? :cookiemonster:




It actually has been of the table to nuke one country for every other president since Truman.

I have a day off so let me school you a bit . Let's take a president that actually had to deal with a close call in the Cuban Missle Crisis .“While it may be theoretically possible to demonstrate the risks inherent in any treaty… the far greater risk to our security are the risks of unrestricted testing, the risks of a nuclear arms race, the risks of new nuclear powers….”

“We will not prematurely or unnecessarily risk the costs of worldwide nuclear war in which even the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth.”

Next I'll move on  to Dwight D Eisenhowers atoms for peace speech http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/Atomsforpeace.shtml

In it he details how in 1953 the hudrogen bomb could carry an explosion rate of 30 Hiroshimas per bomb . Nuclear warfare ALWAYS ends in either an arms race or another world war. It's a domino effect and more then that we maybe should bomb them but nukes carry fallout and are completely indescriminatory . It's Asinine and quite frankly crazy for ANY president or presidential canidate to even consider using nuclear retailing in One country or even a whole region. Nukes should be reserved for total mutually assured destruction. And that's not going to be pretty for anyone involved.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23516203 - 08/06/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually it's mostly factual, the 100% of votes part and the losses in every state with voter ID, are 100% true




The part about voter ID laws doesn't make sense. There weren't very many states with those laws in 2012. What you seem to be implying is that voter ID laws help republicans win, which is exactly what they are intended to do. Republicans win elections by cheating.


The meme is almost entirely bullshit. There were some precincts in phila that did vote 100%. As snopes noted, an investigation could not find any republicans in the district. The rest of the facts are fabricated

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Many parts of Philadelphia and other big cities simply lack Republican voters, a fact of campaigning that has been true since Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University, said.

Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicans live in the [28th] ward's third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.

Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others didn't answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none of the neighbors across the street knew him.

James Norris, 19, who lives down the street, is listed as a Republican in city data. But he said he's a Democrat and voted for Obama because he thinks the president will help the middle class.

A few blocks away, Eric Sapp, a 42-year-old chef, looked skeptical when told that city data had him listed as a registered Republican. "I got to check on that," said Sapp, who voted for Obama.




You should probably fact check your memes


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
    #23516206 - 08/06/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Voter ID laws are racist. No one should have to show ID to vote.

It is a constitutional right! :crankey:

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23516229 - 08/06/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Democrats oppose voter ID becuase they will lose if its implemented.



And you're fine with laws intended to give republicans an electoral advantage. It's called cheating. Fortunately the courts have started to dismantle them.
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hostileuniverse said:
Actually it's mostly factual, the 100% of votes part and the losses in every state with voter ID, are 100% true



There were only four states.

One true thing in a list of 10 things is not mostly factual. It also implies that voter fraud was to blame. The only voter fraud of any significance in this country is making it harder for minorities to vote. Why is a Texas gun license valid ID for voting but note a Universuty of Texas College ID? Because college students are more likely to vote democrat than republican.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23516239 - 08/06/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pris, Scarborough didn't say who told him and didn't say when the meeting was, so how in the fuck can manifort say "I was in the meeting?" Lol. Get s clue.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods] * 2
    #23516242 - 08/06/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You honestly believe that Hillary Clinton is a better choice for America than Donald Trump? You'd have to be an Obama supporting retard to actually believe this.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 1
    #23516254 - 08/06/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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MrBlueYoMind said:
I'm pretty sure telling the whole world that if someone were to nuke America that we WOULDN'T retaliate with equal force is quite a foolish/weak position.

I didn't see anything in the video that said "Trump wants to nuke people" only that he would not refuse to nuke someone else if they nuked us. 

And it ought to be clarified WHY we shouldn't retaliate to a country that nuked us.  I mean I understand the destruction of the planet is horrible and I'm not condoning the use of nukes, but I am saying to tell everyone that we wouldn't would be a position of weakness.

But yes, this is quite a conundrum we are in.



Um we aren't talking about defensive use of nuclear weapons, we're talking about offensive use of nuclear weapons. As for defensive use of nuclear weapons, then only as a response to an offensive use.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23516274 - 08/06/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:
You honestly believe that Hillary Clinton is a better choice for America than Donald Trump? You'd have to be an Obama supporting retard to actually believe this.



Far far far better choice. Trump is totally unqualified to be president. He's not very bright, he's lazy, he's disorganized, he's got a hair trigger, he thinks being unprepared is a virtue (read the art of the deal), he's fundamentally dishonest and changes his mind and his story on a whim. These things are blatantly obvious to any observer. Christ he's on trial for running a fraud, being sued by thousands of people. Get your head out of your ass.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
    #23516278 - 08/06/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:
You'd have to be an Obama supporting retard to actually believe this.




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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23516296 - 08/06/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No principles. Totally dishonest.





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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods] * 3
    #23516303 - 08/06/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For every fault you find with Trump, there are a thousand faults with Clinton that you are completely missing or downright willfully ignoring.


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: koods]
    #23516316 - 08/06/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Zbigniew Brzezinski is probably the one that spilled the beans.

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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: mycosis]
    #23516326 - 08/06/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Make America great again? Perhaps take Canada back? :nicekitty:


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Re: Does anybody know what Donald Trump is actually planning to [Re: mycosis]
    #23516329 - 08/06/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If Trump truly didn't believe in foreign outsourcing labor, why is his product line made in China?

He has spend millions of dollars on his own campaign, why on earth would he even have to save money by importing from China?

http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/06/22/trump-flat-out-lie-about-why-his-clothes-are-made-in-china-and-mexico/

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