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How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last?
    #23515825 - 08/06/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hi,

So let me first start by saying that shrooms are by far my favorite drug to do, if you want to call them that I feel they are more like a trusty old tool that is very therapeutic for me. I've suffered from depression on and off for the past few years.

Last summer I was doing mushrooms a lot sometimes multiple times in a week it completely snapped me out of my funk and my energy improved dramatically. As soon as this happened everything in my life started improving, my  mindset, relationships my love of life itself.

Unfortunately by the fall I was noticing that the shrooms were not having their full effect and that the " magic" aspect was gone, there no longer was the mind shift just mild visuals and the trip would start to end pretty quickly. I ended up having to do a 7 gram dose to have a full on effect, but this was a absolutely mind blowing trip where I thought I solved some kind of mystery of the universe connected to myself, Eric Clapton and his From the Cradle album and space, I was experiencing ESP and was convinced whatever this discovery was meant that everyone had infinite abundance...too bad it was just delusions...or was it :wink:. Anywhoo although these trips are fantastic they are too intense for regular dosing IMO. So since last Fall I have been unable to get the full on effect from my shrooms, I even took 3 months off and when I dosed again with a 3.5 gram dose still I did not get the full on effects.

It's really bumming me out now as I've sunk back into depression and want nothing more than to hit the reset button that a full on psilocybin trip does for me. I even tried a 5.5 gram dose last week and even with that I didn't get the full on trip. I saw some really cool CEV during come up but it quickly subsided..

Anyone have experience with long term tolerance and what can be done to either override it or diminish it? How long should I wait before trying to dose again?


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23516149 - 08/06/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

bumping because it's very important I get an answer to this. Surely someone else must have long term tolerance who is able to answer this?!?!?!?


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23516327 - 08/06/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

With me is the opposite, last year i was tripping a lot once a week for 6 months, and now my sensitivity is so high that dont need more than 1,5 grams


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Aureus]
    #23516369 - 08/06/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Waiting 10 to 14 will give you a tolerance reset. My suspicion is you are getting weak shrooms, unless you are on medication. If you are growing your own and need a print of something different to try I can hook you up.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23516436 - 08/06/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Waiting 10 to 14 will give you a tolerance reset. My suspicion is you are getting weak shrooms, unless you are on medication. If you are growing your own and need a print of something different to try I can hook you up.




Hey,

It's not that the shrooms aren't potent as I've done the same shrooms with friends and it fucked them up. When you say 10-14 do you mean weeks or months?

The long term started with some shrooms I had which previously had been the most intense shrooms I had ever gotten. The only medication I had been taking was clonezapam( which is a type of benzodiazepine) but I stopped taking that over 7 months ago so no reason now why it would be interfering and I used to be able to trip when on it a while back.

I just have a really bad long term tolerance right now.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23516599 - 08/06/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There is no "long term tolerance".  Just wait 2 weeks, be sure you have decent shrooms and nothing to interfere with the effects.  :shrug:

You could however be showing signs of schizophrenia, and that shit will REALLY fuck you up.  Your description of that one trip sounds very similar to what my ordinary waking experience was like during a very dark period with it years ago. 

FWIW though 3.5 g isn't going to be a mind blower for a lot of people.  IME that starts around 50 g fresh, and I recommend fresh far above dried.  If you aren't growing them you probably should be, it makes the trips much better.  :awesomenod:

But in general the same rule always applies - up your dose until you're happy with the results.  That's just the way it is.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23516844 - 08/06/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I meant 10-14 days.
Be sure you haven't eaten fot about 5 to 6 hours before you take them, then eat like 5 grams all at once and blast off. As stated above there is no long term tolreance, the shrooms are weak. Your friends may just be very sensitive to tripping and you aren't, i'm certain you'd be destroyed by 7 grams of potent cubes. I have had some shrooms that were just trash potency, it happens. If you aren't growing your own then I suggest you start and this wont be a problem for you any longer.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23517268 - 08/06/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I meant 10-14 days.
Be sure you haven't eaten fot about 5 to 6 hours before you take them, then eat like 5 grams all at once and blast off. As stated above there is no long term tolreance, the shrooms are weak. Your friends may just be very sensitive to tripping and you aren't, i'm certain you'd be destroyed by 7 grams of potent cubes. I have had some shrooms that were just trash potency, it happens. If you aren't growing your own then I suggest you start and this wont be a problem for you any longer.




I can assure you there absolutely is long term tolerance. 10-14 days will not be near enough time I took 3 weeks off between the last shroom's I took and didn't eat for hours like you said and the effects weren't nearly full on. I know what a proper 3.5 gram trip feels like when it's working properly. I get the buzzing in my head and full body stone and my mind shifts along with the awesome visuals. The shrooms I took had full effect on my friends so it's not the shroom's I'm telling you. Plus like I said before this long term tolerance started with shrooms which at one point had blown my mind( each time I would get fresh shrooms).

I've taken 2-3 months off without dosing and even then they just don't work properly anymore. This has never been an issue for me years ago so this is long term tolerance I assure you. And it's been documented before on this forum it's just that no one seemed to have an answer for it. HELP!!!


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23517286 - 08/06/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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There is no "long term tolerance".  Just wait 2 weeks, be sure you have decent shrooms and nothing to interfere with the effects.  :shrug:

You could however be showing signs of schizophrenia, and that shit will REALLY fuck you up.  Your description of that one trip sounds very similar to what my ordinary waking experience was like during a very dark period with it years ago. 

FWIW though 3.5 g isn't going to be a mind blower for a lot of people.  IME that starts around 50 g fresh, and I recommend fresh far above dried.  If you aren't growing them you probably should be, it makes the trips much better.  :awesomenod:

But in general the same rule always applies - up your dose until you're happy with the results.  That's just the way it is.




I'm definitely not showing signs of schizophrenia dude I'm just showing the effects of taking a mind blowing dose it was fucking fantastic. I never have these delusions unless i've taken shrooms. I've not had anything like what happened on the 7grams happen since. I may just try a major dose again one day although I may just choose to stay inside this time lol.

I'm telling you long term psilocybin tolerance is real I've taken the two weeks off plenty of times even 2-3 months off at times and it didn't make any difference I wasn't getting properly high. 5 grams is enough for a level 5 high for most people I shouldn't be needing to do that much to have a normal proper trip and even when I did 5.5 grams last weekend it still was not a full trip. I did have some intense CEV at first but then it quickly wore off. No body stone, no mind shift, no euphoria all of which I would experience were I tripping properly


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23517325 - 08/06/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

maybe the mushrooms are trying to teach you that you have the power to take control of your depression and climb out of the pit all by yourself. the mushrooms will always be there but if you reach for them like you'd reach for clonazepam they won't work they way you intend. once you start to take control of your life the mushrooms will do their thing, you just have to respect them.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: psilocyclops]
    #23517339 - 08/06/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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maybe the mushrooms are trying to teach you that you have the power to take control of your depression and climb out of the pit all by yourself. the mushrooms will always be there but if you reach for them like you'd reach for clonazepam they won't work they way you intend. once you start to take control of your life the mushrooms will do their thing, you just have to respect them.




I dunno maybe you're right maybe not maybe I need to take a full year off for the tolerance to truly subside and then give it another go.

I've had some DMT in my lockbox now for over 6 months which I've been holding off on until I had had a full complete psilocybin trip and felt like mentally I was in a very positive state. However I may just take the plunge and see how it pans out. Have dosed about 8-10 times before but haven't had the quote unquote breakthrough experience as of yet but was very close my first time I believe.

I'm just worried about having any negative energy taking that into a DMT flash might lead to some kind of nightmarish trip


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23517497 - 08/07/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mental illness is extremely hard to deal with.  It could affect your response to psychedelics as well because your brain chemistry is altered.  But it's just a thought, and a warning.  This is not a place you want to go if you can avoid it, at all costs.  :shrug:

For you, maybe, your tolerance has changed for some reason.  Don't sweat it, just up the dosage, they won't hurt you.  When I've taken them multiple days a week for weeks on end I get up to a 250 g fresh dose (as tea) of ordinary cubes or 175 g fresh of PE.  That's a huge dose and it's all due to tolerance, but that tolerance goes completely away inside of two weeks.  So don't mope around and feel like something's wrong, maybe your tolerance changed due to things you're not aware of so just UP THE DOSE UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY.

Let me say that again:  UP THE DOSE UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY!  It's the only way to fly.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23518996 - 08/07/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Mental illness is extremely hard to deal with.  It could affect your response to psychedelics as well because your brain chemistry is altered.  But it's just a thought, and a warning.  This is not a place you want to go if you can avoid it, at all costs.  :shrug:

For you, maybe, your tolerance has changed for some reason.  Don't sweat it, just up the dosage, they won't hurt you.  When I've taken them multiple days a week for weeks on end I get up to a 250 g fresh dose (as tea) of ordinary cubes or 175 g fresh of PE.  That's a huge dose and it's all due to tolerance, but that tolerance goes completely away inside of two weeks.  So don't mope around and feel like something's wrong, maybe your tolerance changed due to things you're not aware of so just UP THE DOSE UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY.

Let me say that again:  UP THE DOSE UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY!  It's the only way to fly.




The problem with upping the dose to the point they work fully means I have an absolutely mind blowing Level 4/5 like trip not level 3 which is my go to experience for recreational use. Don't get me wrong Level 4/5 are fantastic but a little too intense to be doing on any sort of regular basis maybe once per year. I like to be able to hang with friends also on shrooms and have deep thought provoking conversations. Level 4 I guess this is possible to an extent but you maybe having delusions about what you're talking about and come off as nuts even though what I may be experiencing is just another realm where perhaps these events are happening. But if they aren't on the same Level 4 trip will make it kinda hard to have any cohesion to the experience. And Level 5 is level 5 you like with your eyes closed fully submitting to the psychedelic realm


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23519232 - 08/07/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, you want recreational too.  That's not something I do anymore.  :lol:

Recommend you just grow your own and isolate strains until you find one that gives you what you like, kind of a half-on half-off strain should do that trick. :shrug:


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23519306 - 08/07/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I had no idea long term tolerance could even happen.

When I was younger I would do LSD and shrooms pretty often. I spent the span of a summer doing LSD twice a week, shrooms once or twice a week on top of it, sometimes even 2c-e and 2c-b inbetween, and after that summer was over my tolerance all disappeared with a 2 week break.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23519454 - 08/07/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If I only wait 2 weeks, things tend not to hit me quite as hard on quite the same level. Most of it is still there, I'd say 90%+, but there's just a little edge of something that kindof dies down for me if I only wait 2 weeks.

I understand though, it's hard to wait even 2 weeks when you have something good. I know I have a hard time with it. But if I'm being really honest, there is a certain magic that's lost if I use every 2 weeks.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: nooneman]
    #23519801 - 08/07/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

3-4 days for once in the blue moon use, up to a week or two for heavy use. The tolerance is purely psychological after 4 days. If in doubt wait a couple weeks and also take a couple grams of syrian rue with them. You'll at least get the anti depressant benefits from the rue, and likely trip balls.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23520135 - 08/07/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

smoke some DMT or maybe some salvia(research it well) because apparently there is reserve-tollerence, maybe that could help reset your "long term tolerance"

never heard of long term tolerance but it seems like u would just need to take more than usual to get what you used to out of it, can't use shrooms too often tho

but saliva isn't always super fun when smoked so maybe quid it, idk


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23520202 - 08/07/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I got what I got out of shrooms and took 15 years off.


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Re: How long does Long Term Psilocybin Tolerance last? [Re: sunshine]
    #23520393 - 08/07/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Did your tolerance go away though?  Mine did after 10 years.  :zombie3:


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