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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23516045 - 08/06/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Spawn to bulk would be best option yeah, but I have a feeling its gonna be a bacterial mess somewhere so you may just wanna throw some coir on top and fruit from the bag.

pf-tek is not complicated at all, and you dont have to sanitize everything just work with still air in your still air box.


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: spacechildo]
    #23516090 - 08/06/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The company sent me a plastic tub that I'm apparently supposed to fruit in. It only has one hole in it, for the HEPA breathing tube. Is that a passive system, or do I need to drill more holes in it? I'm sorry, I'm not good with the mycologist terms yet. I'm a very skilled cannabis grower, but mushrooms are a little bit different :smile:


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23516097 - 08/06/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Growing cannabis is nothing like growing mushrooms.  If you want to be successful don't rely on kits and outdated mushroom tek or videos.  READ a LOT.  Use the search function here on the forums and look for tek that isn't outdated from trusted cultivators.  Do this, and listen to veteran experiences, and you'll go far.


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: Mushierage]
    #23516122 - 08/06/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You can take everything that company told you to do and flush it. Everything. I thought that was clear by now. The only thing that can be used is the tub, prvoiding you drill more holes in it. Those companies set you up to fail, keeps you ordering more kits.

Seriously start reading. Forget that kit. Spending a bunch of time mooding over it only to find its contamed as fucK and won't even give you a flush is a waste of time. Do what space said and top case it with coir when it finishes to get a few fruits. Meanwhile get busy reading.


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: Mushierage]
    #23516132 - 08/06/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Like I said, I'm horrible with the terminology involved with mushrooms. There's no guide to all these terms that I can find anywhere. What does "tek" mean? I'm sure that this is a dumb question, but there was no glossary included in my kit's non-existant instructions. Is there a "Mushroom Growing for Dummies" book that I should be reading to find all this stuff out? I have the "The Mushroom Cultivator" and "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms" books, but I'm pretty sure that none of these terms were mentioned. I'm happy to read, I want to get as good as I can at this, but I can't find a good resource for beginners :frown:


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23516158 - 08/06/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I linked "the basics" on the first page. I'd recommend you start there.


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: dankington]
    #23516240 - 08/06/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm reading it right now. It's a good resource. Much appreciated. So, here's what I plan to do with the (possible) waste of time grow kit bags that only have me crossing my fingers for a shroom to pop out...

1. Keep bags at room temperature, around 70-75F for 2 weeks and disturb as little as possible

2. Check for contamination after 2 weeks. If a bag shows signs of contamination, I don't know whether to dispose of it or see if it makes a mushroom or two anyway, but I'll assume that it belongs in the trash if nobody tells me otherwise.

3. After the third week, if the bag is well colonized, I'll get one of those shotgun bins going, and get some of that casing material to fruit the mushrooms. I'm not sure exactly how I'm supposed to do that yet, but I'm sure that it's mentioned in the basics. I have three weeks to figure that part out, but I would rather know now than later so I can have time to re-do it if I screw up :wink:

If anyone has any better ideas than what I'm going to do, please let me know. I can't wait to get this trial run over with and start doing this right, with the kind instruction of the people who know what the hell they're doing :smile:


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23516262 - 08/06/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I advise you to not wait until your done with this grow to start the next. First nothing makes the waiting easier than staying busy. Second is that it's gonna be more likely to be what brings you success.

Your outline for the bag is pretty good tho. It's the best chance for it.


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23516266 - 08/06/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

1 yes
2 post pics
3 WTF happened to the DIY? Start some pf-cakes at least.


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: spacechildo]
    #23516301 - 08/06/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

After I put the casing material over the colonized grain, I need pf-cakes to have the best chance of getting mushrooms to fruit?


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23516339 - 08/06/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

PF cakes are good for simplicity. You don't need a PC and they are pretty forgiving if you just wanna stick with spore syringes.


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23516395 - 08/06/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't made it that far in the basics guide yet, but I'm reading it in between checking for forum replies on here. I just want to get enough mushrooms to get me by until I can get a real DIY setup going. I have one 10cc spore syringe left, and I want to use it after I know if I screwed the current experiment up. I'm definitely not going to quit doing this, I just don't have all the time that I would like to dedicate to this at the moment, and I thought I was going with the quick and temporary option, but this might have ended up being the crash and burn failure option from what's been stated here. I guess I'll cross my fingers. Thank you all for the help, and if you ever need help growing cannabis, I would be happy to give some advice :smile:


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23517344 - 08/06/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

anything besides PF-tek needs a PC. for pf-tek checkout www.mushroomvideos.com
dont mix up pf-tek and grains to bulk teks. 2 very different things. :goodluck:!


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: spacechildo]
    #23518846 - 08/07/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright. I've been reading the basics more. I'm at the part with the agar. I'm still very amateur, and I wouldn't know if I could pull it off at my current experience level, but I'm going to try it after the spawn bag experiment is over so it has my full attention, for the best chance of success. My environment isn't laboratory clean, I have to admit, so I would really like to learn a method that isn't going to screw up at the slightest bit of contamination. Also, I'm having problems regulating temperature in my small apartment. I'm not able to get the bags to between 70-75F, and I can only get them to 80F with a fan blowing into the cardboard box that they're in. I suppose that I could turn my air conditioner to a lower temperature than 70, that I currently have it set at, but then I would be afraid of the temperature getting too low for them. I think I've just had one epic screw-up after another, and I've ended up ruining these bags. I should have just started on my own instead of trusting this company for help. And in case anyone was wondering, I never did get a response to my request for instructions that were supposed to be included in the box. The only help that I have received is from the wonderful people on The Shroomery forums, and I didn't even have to pay you guys. You probably see a sucker like me on here at least once a day, but once I learn, I'll try to return the favor to many more noobs like me :smile:


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Re: First time grow in spawn bags [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23533900 - 08/12/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I have good news. Despite my low experience and poor handling of sanitation, all four of my spawn bags are showing white patches that look like the ones on the website that I bought my stuff from. This will give me motivation for my next project, getting a pf tek setup going. Thank you all for your contributions to my post, I guess that it's true that everyone has to start somewhere :smile:


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