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Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers * 1
    #23512226 - 08/05/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've got some real course wood chips ranging in size from 1/8"-2". I'm going to make some bags with a 50/50 blend of the course material and the mill dust I've been using.  I'll be growing some wild oysters as well as some golds and pinks on this mix and will update as it progresses. My guess is these might take a bit longer to colonize but maybe not. Please chime in with any experiences using larger or varied chips in sub blends.  Here's a pic:



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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23512795 - 08/05/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oysters should rip right through that. I would think willow or cottonwood would be excellent,thats where I've found most of the wild ones on.


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Quadman]
    #23512876 - 08/05/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

oysters also taste better on wood,,my opinion!

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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: anthiawe]
    #23512935 - 08/05/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Oysters should rip right through that. I would think willow or cottonwood would be excellent,thats where I've found most of the wild ones on.



Right on!  This is a blend of all hardwood with some trace pine.  I'm excited to see how it does.
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oysters also taste better on wood,,my opinion!

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Sorry anthiawe...I must have accidentally hit the button.  Accepting now!


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23515029 - 08/06/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

what kinda wood chip are you using?  i am working with some ash.

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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: john-hai]
    #23515382 - 08/06/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey JH, it's a blend of:
Ash, elm, oak, maple, basswood, black walnut, hackberry and some pine, spruce and cedar (last 3 are minimal) and occasionally fruit wood, like peach or pear. My hardwood guy reclaims old or dead or removed urban trees for his custom furniture.  I'm not too keen on the softwoods in the mix, particularly the cedar but there is very little of it.  I'll keep this thread updated with progress pics.  What do you grow and how do they like ash?  We have a ton of ash in our town. Pics?


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23515404 - 08/06/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats a really nice varied mix of wood. All recycled?


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Ferather]
    #23515480 - 08/06/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Thats a really nice varied mix of wood. All recycled?



Hey Ferather, yep, all recycled.  Pretty cool on a sustainability front, which is huge in our community.  When I picked it up, your comments on varied media immediately came to mind.  I'm looking forward to the results.


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23515508 - 08/06/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Wow nice one, I'm looking forward to that. Currently looking at Ochroma (Balsa) wood.
It completely replaces vermiculite for some teks.


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Ferather]
    #23515644 - 08/06/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Don't know if you have thought about it but,dead trees can be full of contaminates. Best is fresh cut living trees chipped and dried right away.


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Quadman]
    #23515705 - 08/06/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow nice one, I'm looking forward to that. Currently looking at Ochroma (Balsa) wood.
It completely replaces vermiculite for some teks.



Balsa should be interesting...only ever used it for building planes as it is very lightweight, at least the modeling stuff is.  Sounds like a superior/cleaner/safer alternative to verm as a reservoir material.  Are they using it over in the psilocybe forums?  How are you planning on incorporating it?
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Don't know if you have thought about it but,dead trees can be full of contaminates. Best is fresh cut living trees chipped and dried right away.



Hey Q, I hadn't really thought about that (heavy metals?)but my understanding is this is green wood that is kiln-dried and then milled.  Thanks for the insight though!


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23515828 - 08/06/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No I was just looking at it, seemed like it fitted in with a purpose.
I might try it one day, but I have no verm based tek.

I try to avoid grain based teks.


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Ferather]
    #23516005 - 08/06/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

wood chip is a great substrate as long as you dry them first.  i also add straw to fill in the gap.  i like to mix my chip but right now all i have is ash.  if you are using bag be gentle when you fill them or they will poke holes in the bag.  here are some pic enjoy.

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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: john-hai]
    #23516089 - 08/06/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No grains, bran or anything containing ready carbs?
If not, Fuc*ing amazing job mate.


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: john-hai]
    #23516156 - 08/06/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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wood chip is a great substrate as long as you dry them first.  i also add straw to fill in the gap.  i like to mix my chip but right now all i have is ash.  if you are using bag be gentle when you fill them or they will poke holes in the bag.  here are some pic enjoy.

john




Holy cow, good looking fruit you got there, JH!  I'm blending it 50/50 with mill dust to fill in the gaps. For the small batches I'm able to pick out the long pointy pieces, even so, you're absolutely correct on gentle bag filling to avoid holes.  What's the weight on your blocks and what's the yield/1 or 2 flushes?  Also, how do you brown your shiitake blocks? Again, great job and thanks for sharing!


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23517274 - 08/06/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)





Hey Q, I hadn't really thought about that (heavy metals?)but my understanding is this is green wood that is kiln-dried and then milled.  Thanks for the insight though!



You said they were tree service trees possible dead or diseased . The contaminates I was thinking of were fungus/mold or bacterial. Kiln dried should be ok?
J-H Nice's pics need to find ash  :like:


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Quadman]
    #23517298 - 08/06/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey Q, I hadn't really thought about that (heavy metals?)but my understanding is this is green wood that is kiln-dried and then milled.  Thanks for the insight though!



You said they were tree service trees possible dead or diseased . The contaminates I was thinking of were fungus/mold or bacterial. Kiln dried should be ok?
J-H Nice's pics need to find ash  :like:



Sorry, that was off the top of my head.  Here's a quote from their website:
"This specialty wood is reclaimed from trees that must be removed due to damage, illness, old age or development. The trees are then milled by hand to accentuate each tree’s special characteristics, color, texture, grain, age, species and physical form."
My guess is it's legit, also, I'm sterilizing so hopefully any nasties are cooked off.


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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23517675 - 08/07/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i use a 1 to 1 ratio(wood chip/straw) on mind.  i don't weight my block so i have no idea how much they weight.  the small block is made of 1 and 1/2 dvd case.  i use the 100 dvd case cover as a measuring cup and it is about 8cup.  the large block is 3dvd. as far as flushes, the wood chip substrate seem to get more mushroom per block then straw.  i am a home grower so any mushroom i get i am happy.  but the wood chip block will give you 3-4 very nice flushes.  i brown my shiitake in the bag at room temp. shiitake is a long term mushroom.  you have to let them brown then initiate them by cold shock.  i'm to lazy to do that so my shiitake will pin when ever they want. i make my shiitake block all year so i have some block that are pinning all the time.  my family like a study supplies of mushroom to eat all year long.

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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: john-hai]
    #23517816 - 08/07/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats very good, well done. First time I've seen such good BE outside my own experiments.
Well that concludes nutrient variation equals strength and better BE.

Using grains is becoming lolable !!

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Re: Woodchip and sawdust blend for oysters and other wood lovers [Re: john-hai]
    #23518094 - 08/07/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the input JH! Is that nameko in one of your pics?  Do you run any maitake and if so can you share your method?


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