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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly * 1
    #23511967 - 08/05/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:ruggedwink: Okay folks, here goes:

As it's been the main way I've learned everything in life, I'm taking a new approach to grow logs. This should help all you discouraged newbs from getting discouraged.

We all fuck up. We all get contams. The way to succeed in this hobby is to 'not get too attached to your babies'. I know it's hard, especially in the beginning. But, if you wanna get anywhere, you gotta know when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em.

So this is the format that I'll be using. The first several posts here are for updating the grows. Each grow will be in it's own 'post' which will be updated with everything; The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. You'll see where I fuck up. And where instead of crying in my oatmeal, I'll just throw the fuckers out, brush myself off and keep on truckin'.

In an attempt to help people spot problematic spawn, I'll even spawn some of the sketchier spawn I get. Just so we all get to learn and grow from this. These are just a few of what I'm playing around with now. So it's possible I'll make a sequel or even more from this idea if it goes somewhat as planned (having good, bad and ugly, of course!)

Everything here will be started from spores. All the cultures I have atm will be grown out and/or stored. I expect this thread to be updated over the next several months. I'm expecting around 4-5 months total in order to show the whole process, including the weeding out and transfer selection.

I will be using pp5 pastyplates for this, so the agar photos won't be amazing. But I'll take pics of them after transfers, and of all the contam'd plates.

I hope this start to finish format will help everyone out in the long run. I mostly hope this helps point some people in the right direction. I've learned a lot and had loads of help along the way, so I'm trying to give back something. The secondary goal here is to light a fire under my ass to get to work! :dancer:

Keep in mind, it is possible this will be full of fail. But I'm not even gonna hide from that. I'm gonna share everything I can. Even if it's all just…

:deathstar:

Also, special shout to Filthy Knees for helpin' me out and making me do a log! :lol:


For Reference, all agar in these logs are color coded:
Red = Full ratio LMEA or Light Malt Extract Agar
Blue = Decreased nutrition ratio LMEA
Purple = Soft agar / full ratio PDA or Potato Dextrose Agar
Green = Decreased nutrition ratio PDA
Yellow = Full ratio PDA


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Psilocybe Semperviva (P. Hoogshagenii var. Convexa) [Re: dankington]
    #23511970 - 08/05/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Agar trials begin    8/5/16

Prepping the area (whole area and SAB sprayed with tap water):
Organized workspace



Aftermath:

   


Update: August 20th

So I didn't think there was any exceptionally nice growth from any of the germinated plates. However, it wouldn't do us any harm to try and see if there's anything we can clean from these plates here.

A bunch of the transfers got Sloppy as manwiches for two reasons. I germinated on softer agar, so the softer agar can be a little tricky sometimes to transfer to and/or from.

I also accidentally poured the receiving dishes a bit too thin on a few plates. So I expect I'll likely see some satellites on at least 3-4 of the 11 transfers I took.

Here are some before pictures of the plates. The growth looks pretty clean on a lot of these, but also keep in mind there is a lot of vertical growth too. I realize that from spores (especially since I think I was a little heavy handed with them), there will likely be a good amount of bacteria riding along.

If you read some of the descriptions of Semperviva, you'll read that it's 'resistant to contams'. That's bullshit, of course. What's so curious is that the mycelium continues to have very clean looking growth despite having contams. Which of course is a very different thing. I haven't been playing around long with it, but It's something I noticed when I first took some clean looking transfers to grains.

Anyways, here's before:

                           


And here's some pictures after the transfers. You can definitely see where I fucked up on at least one here.

               

That last one I just took a slice for the hell of it. I really didn't like the cut of it's jib at all.



whew. time for a little whiskey and a few :bongload:
and I'll just :crossmyfingers:


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Psilocybe Cubensis var. Penis Envy [Re: dankington]
    #23511972 - 08/05/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Agar trials begin    8/5/16

Prepping the area (whole area and SAB sprayed with tap water):
Organized workspace, but forgot to take a pic.

Placed a couple drops from syringe to each swab after flaming, then swiped to plates.


Aftermath:

   


8/17 still no signs of germination. Along with a couple of the others here, I will be reswabbing. The PE comes in a syringe, of course. So, I'll be putting a few extra drops onto a swab and lightly swab a plate. I'll then tiger drop a gladround of agar on top. I'm busy today, but will be doing this in the next couple of days.


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Psilocybe Cubensis var. Texas Orange Caps [Re: dankington]
    #23511977 - 08/05/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Agar trials begin    8/5/16

Prepping the area (whole area and SAB sprayed with tap water):



Organized workspace:



Aftermath:

   

Hey everyone, lets laugh at dank's ghetto-ass SAB :haha:


8/17: along with the AA+, it seems I accidentally used to many spores on the swabs. The growth is super thick and it's hard to see if there's any enmeshed molds. Being I had one plate mold soon after, I'll be doing agar sandwiches for the TXOC also.


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Psilocybe Cubensis var. AA+ [Re: dankington]
    #23511978 - 08/05/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Agar trials begin    8/5/16

Prepping the area (whole area and SAB sprayed with tap water):
Then organized workspace while air settles.



Aftermath:

   

8/17: There appears to be a lot of bacteria riding along with these spores. I will be doing some agar sandwiches in the next several days to see if I can re-inoculate some plates and pull clean growth off of them.


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Psilocybe Cubensis var. Keeper's Creeper [Re: dankington]
    #23511979 - 08/05/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Agar trials begin    8/5/16

Prepping the area (whole area and SAB sprayed with tap water):
Then organized workspace while air settles.



Aftermath:



1st Transfers -- 8/14/16

Out of the 5 plates of Creeper, I picked the three that looked like they had the best looking growth. I tried to take some pics of them before any work done, so you can see my reasoning.

This is from a very dark print, so it was hard to place just enough spores down, and so a lot of the growth is very much vertical looking. Some a little more than I was really comfortable with.

As I had done before, I get the area all ready for work:





so here are the contestants I chose:

       


Here are the ones I decided against:
       

As you may be able to see, there is a lot of very cottony growth. It could be that some of this is clean enough to try and transfer from, but it didn't seem worth the trouble to even try honestly.

Here you can try and see why I chose the spots I picked. At least one transfer got totally fucked, from not making clean enough incisions in the soft agar. You'll see the ragged looking texture of the myc after the transfers, but this is in part due to going in hot with a still pretty hot scalpel. Though I cool it in the receiving plate, it still happens--especially with soft agar plates.

   

…and done for the day. I wanted to try and get more done, but it's been a really long day, and wasn't really able to. There were definitely a couple of spots I wanted to transfer from also, but I just couldn't :/. Tomorrow I should get some more done, and I have a couple of other side projects to catch up on… :smile:





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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis var. Keeper's Creeper [Re: dankington]
    #23511997 - 08/05/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis var. Keeper's Creeper [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23512020 - 08/05/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23512044 - 08/05/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nothin' to lose but some pride :lol:
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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: dankington]
    #23512110 - 08/05/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23514242 - 08/05/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks very much, Sloppy. So good of you all to stop in. I really hope this becomes a good learning resource for newcomers. I hope I haven't simply bitten off more than I can chew :lol:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: dankington]
    #23514361 - 08/05/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cheers dankington bear!


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: Hashed]
    #23514369 - 08/05/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, Hashed. Welcome aboard. Maybe we'll all learn a thing or two. I'll try and document every last thing on here.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: dankington]
    #23514401 - 08/05/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's what it's all about. :super:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23514426 - 08/05/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23514430 - 08/05/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23514730 - 08/05/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23515209 - 08/06/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just wanted to wacth


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: tump]
    #23515298 - 08/06/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Inteligible info and pics! Two of my favs


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: theGODSmademedoit]
    #23515321 - 08/06/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Hashed]
    #23515807 - 08/06/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm laughing at your SAB. HaHa! Jk .... right on man definitely will help seeing the good the bad and the ugly at its best


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: dankington]
    #23525143 - 08/09/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My back hurts from moving pcs and pots of grain. Hope you're working hard.

Hope uncle chris is helping, still think you could bee helped by pouring a few hundred plates.

Good luck brother man, maybe we can munch down when im back on earth


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: filthyknees] * 1
    #23525188 - 08/09/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey brother man, thanks for stopping by! :hi: I do have a few dozen pp5's ready to go, but that would save so much time. I just gotta bite the bullet and do it.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: dankington]
    #23525687 - 08/09/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm excited to see how everything turns out! Good luck dankington.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23525701 - 08/09/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm laughing at your SAB. HaHa! Jk .... right on man definitely will help seeing the good the bad and the ugly at its best




Don't laugh at that SAB.  People use a lot more ghetto than that around here.  Come back when you've found a good soggy cardboard box SAB to laugh at.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
    #23525771 - 08/09/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm laughing at your SAB. HaHa! Jk .... right on man definitely will help seeing the good the bad and the ugly at its best




Don't laugh at that SAB.  People use a lot more ghetto than that around here.  Come back when you've found a good soggy cardboard box SAB to laugh at.



Trust me my first sab was a cardboard box haha


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23525777 - 08/09/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: blueconfusion]
    #23541592 - 08/14/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'll be watching this too Dank.  Good to see someone is doing this.  It would have helped when I started for sure to see one persons start to finish    The good the bad and the ugly helps us learn


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Skillzd]
    #23541734 - 08/14/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

welcome dudes!
I'll have an update here in a few hours / tomorrow. I'm about to take my T-1s.

AA+, Creeper and the Semperviva all have enough growth to choose some good looking transfers from.

PE hasn't even germinated. I remembered the day after I inoculated that I had trouble with this syringe before, so I will probably get more swabs ready for more attempts. I think the syringe is creeping up on 10 months old or so, so I'll have to put a few drops per swab... I think it'll just take some playing around with.

The TXOC hasn't really cooperated much either, but a couple plates of it have begun germinating. I already have a death star too.

I feel like this could get overwhelming, but I'm going to try my damnedest to make it work.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23541801 - 08/14/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What's a death star dank ? It just had a bunch of shit in the pub and off topic shit


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23542169 - 08/14/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This is a deathstar, noob:

TXOC plate. RIP

Basically anything that's not salvageable. In this case it's because I was working without a facemask (I think). I just forgot it for some reason :bongload:

I was able to work on the creeper, and updated the creep OP. My arm's been going numb, so I wasn't able to keep going unfortunately. But I started getting some growth on a couple other plates like the Semperviva

   

and at least one AA+ Plate



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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23542274 - 08/14/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh gotcha well in that case I must be a starwars fanatic cause I've got like thirty of those LMAO jk more like 29


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23542307 - 08/14/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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This is a deathstar, noob:

TXOC plate. RIP

Basically anything that's not salvageable. In this case it's because I was working without a facemask (I think). I just forgot it for some reason :bongload:




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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Hashed]
    #23543084 - 08/15/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

both the KSSS plates i made the other day have the same shit on them, dank.. all the other plates are fine, though, so im like :shrug:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23552711 - 08/18/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

only plates so far that had clean enough growth to transfer from were the creepers. I see a couple of areas on the Semperviva that look like I can transfer from, so I will try to do those later today.

The PE still hasn't germinated. The TXOC all have bacteria in the plates. I am giving them a little time to see if they can outgrow the bacteria to make transfers from. I'll take pics to try and show what I mean. They're not ugly, but I consider them too bad to be worth the effort (because I have more spores).

The AA+ have a lot of bacteria in with the spores. So I will swab new plates, and try and swab much more lightly. I will also 'tiger drop' onto a couple of plates I've swabbed to, to clean the growth from the beginning, like from a wild print.

I will be trying new swabs in the next few days too. I guess it's best these all wind up staggered anyways.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23552798 - 08/18/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:starwars:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Peteyboy]
    #23561693 - 08/20/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just so everyone knows, I haven't backed out of this. It's still coming along, and I've made a couple of updates. 'night!


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23568650 - 08/23/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

nice


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23569011 - 08/23/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just started agar work myself using the pasty tek. looks like we both used purple for our agar plates(my wife choose it:grin:)



i had a lot of condensation tho :rolleyes:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: mushboy]
    #23569068 - 08/23/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah condensation's nothing to worry about. Though next time, you may want to take them out before the agar sets :lol:

So far, I've found that my long sleeved shirts were actually a vector for me. The last transfers I made I was just wearing a T-shirt and gloves. They look much cleaner so far.

I have some nice looking growth from the TXOC, so I'm going to take some transfers today.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23569094 - 08/23/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i banged my pc by accident when it was cooling and some containers we knocked over. d'oh


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: mushboy]
    #23569096 - 08/23/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i banged my pc




Did you at least take it to dinner first?


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
    #23569133 - 08/23/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Haha fucking noc


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
    #23569138 - 08/23/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i banged my pc




Did you at least take it to dinner first?




psshh. bitches be lucky to receive the mush :mostinteresting:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: mushboy]
    #23569187 - 08/23/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:lmafo:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23584681 - 08/27/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

fuck. Kept pushing shit off and what hasn't overgrown has contaminated. I'll post pics.

The best looking specimens are the semperviva, which were done without wearing sleeves.

I'll stagger these grows now. I'll get the semperviva going a few transfers in, then I'll start adding AA+, TXOC, Creeps etc.

All the creeper transfers appear to have penicillium. But the good news, is I'm about to start having a lot more time to dedicate to this. :thumbup:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #23584852 - 08/27/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:nothingtoadd:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (moved) [Re: Shroomin 101]
    #23589790 - 08/29/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

+5 For puttin in the work.


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: dankington]
    #23926452 - 12/14/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

May the mushroom god guide you....you will surely be missed brutha you were a major shroomerite in all aspects of the word.:frown:


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: cronicr]
    #23930728 - 12/15/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sad. RIP


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #23930798 - 12/15/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dank you are part of shroomery history. You will not be forgotten. . .


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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23956432 - 12/25/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Merry xmas dank:smile:


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