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knarkkorven said:
Very nice! Still in your front yard?

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Thanks! Yea still there, hopefully more to come.
Panaeolinas are making their comeback also, so hoping for some more Cinctulus too! I smeared spore prints all over my yard and also buried a couple of Ph. cyanopus caps from two years ago in the places I've found them this year. No idea if it's gonna do anything, but I guess worth the try if they grow on my yard anyhow.

The odor is pretty damn strong for a such a small mushroom.

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knarkkorven said:
If you find small pins, please record how long it takes for them to grow up. It would be interesting to know.

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I've been trying to catch some pins, but sometimes it's hard to spot even the mature ones. But what I've gathered a couple of days, maybe three from the smallest ones I've found and then the caps are opened to the bell or conical shape usually.

Here's some more.

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elprawn said:
Cool find. I'd be too chickenshit to try them myself, but I kind of hate myself for that because then I become what makes me cringe when people tell me how dangerous mushrooms can be.

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ST1R said:
I need to search this specimen from Estonian. I'm pretty sure, that I've seen them.
Do you have any habitat pictures?

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They might be there, who knows. They have been reported in the surrounding countries of Estonia I think and I don't know if they're as rare as considered. The biggest problem with this species, apart from the possible deadly poisonous look-a-likes, is the size I think. They are so small that you really have to get down to the grassroots level and even then it's hard to spot them and pick them up without losing the base of the stem, atleast on my current habitat. They're also guarded heavily by fire ants on my yard.
But I'll try to take some habitat photos later on.

I've been smelling some Conocybes lately and I think the odor of this species is really something worth noting. These smell incredibly strong, sweet and somewhat magical while the other Conocybes have had just normal dull, not so strong mushroomy odor. I opened a jar of my previous Pholiotina cyanopus finds from two years ago and the dried ones smelled like dried Psilocybe cubensis to me.
Can you smell the active indigrients in mushrooms? The smell just has something in common with other active species I've found in the past. Anyhow, I'm really starting to like their odor.

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I don't know if they're as rare as considered.

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I consider them to be rare. Since 2011 when I found my first (after searching several years for them) I have searched for more spots and spent much time doing so. Liberty cap habitats of course, since they grew a couple of meters from some liberty caps flushing in massive amounts. But I also check normal lawns and along forest paths and places with wood chips since this also was present, and is present on other peoples pictures... But I haven't found them anywhere else yet. The reports of European active Pholiotinas are also very rare. When I found my P. smithii it was considered the first find in my country by a national expert commenting on Mushroom Observer.

So you are one of the few lucky people to have found it. The only think perhaps pointing in the direction of them being overseen is that you found then in your own lawn. You need to look around more in the neighborhood

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I've been smelling some Conocybes lately and I think the odor of this species is really something worth noting. These smell incredibly strong, sweet and somewhat magical

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knarkkorven said:
How is the smell compared with fresh Psilocybe semilanceata?

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Hard to describe, but it has the same sweetness in it's odor than fresh semilanceatas. But in my opinion Psilocybe semilanceata has more grassy than earthy mushroom smell, which probably how I'd describe the Pholiotina cyanopus odor. Just with extra sugar. I've also noticed the same sweetness on fresh Panaeolus cinctulus.

The habitats I've found them are old "farm sites" that have been pretty much inactive for decades and the wilderness has taken over the yard. The surrounding fields are still in use thought. Also found them a couple of years ago in a probably thousands of years old forest with lots of moss around. But anyway after a year of scything and lawn mowing, these mushrooms appeared. There's also a lot of that sphagnum moss around, which might have something to do with this mushroom as I recall you were also wondering in some other cyanopus observation. Atleast it has been growing on every place I've found these. Also some grass, clover and cow parsley or something similiar along with the moss observed. I've never found these in same habitat than Psilocybe semilanceatas in Finland.

But yea, I consider them rare also until I start finding them in other places too and in greater numbers. Not too keen on going to the neighbours lawn hehe.

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knarkkorven said:
Good, keep track of those now

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Will do.

I'm getting a bit worried about the weather though. These things disappeared two years ago right after the warmer season in Finland was over.

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I don't know if they're as rare as considered.

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I consider them to be rare.

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how many are out looking specifically for Pholiotina or Conocybe spp. in the first place?

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I have a Norwegian field guide from the '70s calling Panaeolina foenisecii a rare(!) species.

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Then another question is - how habitat specific are they?

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knarkkorven said:
Yeah, your probably correct about that. But I would presume a few people who actually was searching for other active species (like P. semilanceata) would pick them and ask for ID here or at other places. I have followed ID threads for >10 years, and it's very rarely seen. I mean, C. tenera and C. apala is probably a hundred times more common.

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Wow, I would say that's a very common species, found in many villa lawns, and very easy to spot. Could it been less common in Norway at that time?

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Have you found any yet Anglerfish?

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