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Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's?
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Low-dose aspirin is often prescribed to promote heart health. Other NSAID's are known to increase the risk of heart attack or stroke.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fda-strengthens-warning-that-nsaids-increase-heart-attack-and-stroke-risk-201507138138
Can you believe that some obscure NSAID which was on the market for a few years caused 140,000 heart attacks?
As long as you take aspirin on a full stomach with a full glass of water, I'd say the proof is in the pudding that it's substantially safer than taking any other NSAID. Other NSAID's such as ibuprofin may be slightly better at pain management, but at what cost?
With all the research and knowledge on the subject, I can't see myself using any NSAID's for pain management except for aspirin.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle]
#23511381 - 08/04/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I take low dose aspirin or (if I'm out) another NSAID every day to lower my risk of blood clots
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle]
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it's true. I have a low dose aspirin in my med cab now. good info for those who don't know.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle] 1
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I use aleve. Aspirin does fuck all for my pain; so I don't take it.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23511594 - 08/05/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was under the impression that aspirin does a number on the liver, especially when you happen to be consuming other things that also do numbers on the liver.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: LobsterSauce] 1
#23511615 - 08/05/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've thrown up blood after taking aspirin. Also, daily aspirin use causes excessive bruising in a lot of people. I'll stick to aleve. Low dose aspirin doesn't do shit for pain, anyways.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle] 1
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You're going to get Reye's Syndrome.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: LobsterSauce]
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Low dose aspirin is a quarter of an aspirin. It has no pain relieving or fever reducing potential. My previous MD had me taking one every other day as a heart precaution even though I Have no heart symptoms including all tests. Then I read a study showing there is no advantage to low dose aspirin except people who already had heart attacks, so I stopped taking them. She said I was probably right, Comparing low dose aspirin is nonsensical, NSAIDs are potentially liver dangerous because people take them in high enough doses to kill their joint pain. I know a guy who takes 6 alleves when he gets out of bed every morning so he can work. ASpirin is a stomach killer, but not at low dosages, but comparing one baby aspirin every other day or every day, has no relationship with older people who depend on NSAIDs, to work all day every day. Odds are they are going to ruin their liver or go bankrupt. It's an issue that I don't think young people have any clue about. My own opinion is that at least ibuprophen and Alleve do something for you. IMO Tylenol is worthless and has the same risks.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Brian Jones] 2
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They're all bullshit if you ask me. That or I'm just in severe enough pain.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Adden]
#23511769 - 08/05/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I could've sworn I saw a recent study that said NSAIDs cause heart attacks... Hmmm ill have to see if I can dig that up. None for me though, I always get prescribed hydros because I'm allergic to aspirin... But I hate pain pills so I have a huge pain pill stash for absolutely no reason.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#23511772 - 08/05/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ahh ok I see now it's the non aspirin ones, I thought I had read conflicting information that it was the aspirin itself but I guess it was pretty much the same as the link.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#23511866 - 08/05/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aspirin and ibuprofen and aleve are just brand name tylenol no? I thought they were legally chehically indentacle.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: King Klick]
#23511902 - 08/05/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im supposed to be taking an aspirin everyday because i cut my brachial artery and the docs had to take a vein out of my leg and put it in my arm. The blood flow isnt as strong so they told me i needed to take it to help prevent clotting. I dont think its necessary as i havent been taking it for years now.
I did for a little awhile after the incident then quit. I dont think its great on your stomach. Whats considered a low dose?
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: King Klick]
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King Klick said: Aspirin and ibuprofen and aleve are just brand name tylenol no? I thought they were legally chehically indentacle.
No. All four of those are completely different chemicals.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: King Klick] 1
#23512046 - 08/05/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tylenol is acetaminophen, aleve is naproxen, Advil is ibuprofen and Aspirin is acetylsalicylic acid I believe. Of all of those I can only take Tylenol so no, they are definitely not the same.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#23512070 - 08/05/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont mind most NSAIDs but refuse to take acetaminophen.
I drink fairly consistently and im always worried about my liver.
Ibuprofin ftw
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: JvF]
#23512121 - 08/05/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I usually refuse to take any meds, there are natural solutions for pain. You're right to be worried, Tylenol is hell on your liver but know that any of the named medications have their own side effects when used long term. Aspirin and ibuprofen both have been known to cause ulcers when used long term.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#23512217 - 08/05/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't do aspirin. My meds interact with it in a bad way. The doc warned me about it from the get go. Once in a blue moon I'll have an Advil. Like maybe once every 2-3 years.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Patlal]
#23512384 - 08/05/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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if you have aids take a baby aspirin every day, if you fly take 2. i guarantee that shit will be gone in a month.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: sanchothestoner]
#23512409 - 08/05/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tylenol+Aspirin is my goto if I have a strong enough headache (and am not drinking/hungover), they work if you use them for their intended purposes.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: falsereality]
#23515334 - 08/06/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aleve>Advil>>>aspirin>>Tylenol. IMHO. There's this NSAID called ketorolac that works better than all of em, used to have about a months worth of that stuff about a year ago.
It's all trash on your body though. I'm pretty sure kratom contains NSAIDs, could be wrong, but I use the stuff for pain and it works way better than any OTC painkillers. Of course that could just be the opioid alkaloids
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle]
#23515341 - 08/06/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its best not to use any of them if at all possible.
Tylenol / apap/ acetemenophen is the worst of them but they are all harmful and dangerous in different ways.
Many people find cannabis provides safe pain relief.
Kratom is a superb painkiller .
If at all possible you shouldn't use any painkiller often and certainly not daily unless absolutely necessary.
Even a baby aspirin a day carries risks, although it's worth it for some if you are at risk of heart attack or whatever .
I keep baby also in my backpack in case anyone is having a heart attack.
Coincidentally my wife thought she was having a heart attack today. I gave her two baby aspirin and we are in hospital now.
It's a good thing to keep in your house, backpack and car.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23515430 - 08/06/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kratom feels much harsher on the stomach than aspirin nd some get ulcers from it
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle]
#23515475 - 08/06/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kratom is amazing for my digestive system and keeps me marvellously regular.
It' hasn't been associated with nearly as many stomach problems as aspirin which is notorious for causing stomach bleeding.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23515481 - 08/06/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kratom hurts my stomach whenever i take it i guess it just varies on an individual basis
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle]
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Kratom makes me constipated if my diet isnt right, which it isnt right now so im having to take milk of magnesia every once in awhile. Im far from regular lol
I use everyday though. Im sure if you didnt and eat a good diet it doesnt do any harm to the stomach.
That sucks it hurts your stomach sheekle.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Mr. Magic]
#23515953 - 08/06/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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meh, i'm not huge on krat anyway so it's no biggie
low doses make for a nice social lubricent tho, if i do enough to get noticably high i get boring and my voice gets croaky tho
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Sheekle]
#23516200 - 08/06/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I take ibuprofen. I never take acetaminophen Unless I have no kratom and need a T3. Last time i took a T3 was when i scraped like a third of my nail off on the sidewalk. So its not for normal pain.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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I'm on 80mg aspirin a day due to cardiovascular meds.
The rare times I want a painkiller I go for Acetaminophen, a gram at a time, three times a day.
If I need something extra I go for Naproxen 200mg 3 a day.Naproxen KICKS ASS and moreover, it lasts 12 hoiurs so you can get a full nights sleep off of what ails you. The sleep part is a BIG THING. Disease often get majorly exhausting by sleep deprivation, and most healing happens while you sleep.
I cant handle ibuprofen. Gives me a rash on the ankles.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Asante]
#23517560 - 08/07/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got a decent grade when I made aspirin. Although it smelled strongly of acetic acid, the prof didn't notice because his sense of smell is gone. I saved a vial.. anyone wanna try it?
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Asante]
#23517586 - 08/07/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said: I cant handle ibuprofen. Gives me a rash on the ankles.
Interesting. Naproxen gives me hives, an itchy mouth and rashes on my hands, arms and inner elbow.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Adden]
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said: ... because people take them in high enough doses to kill their joint pain. I know a guy who takes 6 alleves when he gets out of bed every morning so he can work.
... older people who depend on NSAIDs, to work all day every day. Odds are they are going to ruin their liver or go bankrupt. It's an issue that I don't think young people have any clue about.
Well I had the privilege to learn all about this  Nothing like blinding agony whenever you go to pick up a spoon
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: koods]
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koods said: It also makes you less empathetic
http://www.livescience.com/54739-acetaminophen-linked-to-less-empathy.html
Well there's another drug I can never touch. I can't afford to lose more empathy.
Also Tylenol can seriously fuck up your liver in a relativily short term.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Patlal]
#23518264 - 08/07/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tylenol is fucking obsolete garbage. People should stop taking it
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: hex_enduction]
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Naproxen is great for menstruals.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: idiotek]
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Excedrin works pretty well for a tension headache. aspirin, acetaminophen, and caffeine. Otherwise I take Tylenol/acetaminophen because ibuprophen upsets my stomach and naproxen lasts too long. 12 hours? I'll only take that if I anticipate my pain will last more than 12 hours.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Asante]
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3 gems of acted acetemenophen in a day is far too much IMO I think it shouldn't be used at all but absolutely not more than a gram a day
Thankfully we can get T1 in Canada OTC
I thankfully never need painkillers and if I did Kratom would be my first go to
People who take NSAIDs of other painkillers for arthritis should look into SAMe which is as effective as NSAIDs and drastically healthier .
If you must take Tylenol, NAC and vitamin C with it have been shown to mitigate liver Toxicity
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Moonshoe]
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My favorite NSAID is naproxen (Aleve). That shit does work. It kicks in fast, lasts a long time and is active at a low dosage. Naproxen is my shit yo
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Turmeric extract / curcumin is a powerful anti Inflammatory and is a great first option for many things you might use NSAIDs for such as arthritis.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Moonshoe]
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they replaced the active ingredient with chalk long ago. No one noticed the transition.
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Re: Did you know that aspirin is much safer than other NSAID's? [Re: Love_spirit]
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Active ingredient of what?
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