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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] * 2
    #24012472 - 01/15/17 03:45 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I had a look back where I found the P.papuana yesterday this morning. Nothing new to see. I found a bunch of old withered specimens that went into the collection.

Image 1 & 2 -same spot where yesterdays specimens came from.

Image 3 - collection for morning dose before Tai chi. This will be fun???


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] * 1
    #24013089 - 01/15/17 08:30 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Didn't get far with tai chi. Too concerned about going for a lovely walk in the sparkly, crystalline bush. After being involved with an internal dialogue telling me what to do and not to do "I" found my "way" out of the jungle.

Found a new P.tasmaniana out at the spot. Only the cap image wasn't blurry. Took other photos of an old one I didn't see before. Guess what? Every image was blurry. Think I'm an even worse photographer when I'm out of it.:blush::mushroom2:


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #24013176 - 01/15/17 09:07 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Gosh out here I'd look at that and think mycenoid and move on. Amazing how different these things look across the globe. This forum is amazing. Thanks again for your contributions. I love when this thread gets bumped.


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Adden]
    #24013193 - 01/15/17 09:16 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I might have said in Liberty cap allies thread that Mycena was my first observation. Then walked past them for a couple of weeks before I checked the gills.

I found two weird looking mushrooms yesterday. Both looked like P.alutacea coming out of the soil. I didn't have my glasses so left them. Had a look for one today and it was gone. In fact now I've brought this up I'll go for another wander to see if I can find the other one.:mushroom2:

Thank you very much Adden.:cool:


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #24013502 - 01/16/17 12:09 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Eight hours later ears ringing, head buzzing and  still getting CEV on and off. More like mescaline in that it wears me down because it won't wear off. When I'm walking around I feel like my body wants to go to sleep. Sit down and feel like I've drank coffee. P.papuana hangs in well on a small dose.

They are so difficult to find that I think it would be a fluke for me to find enough even for a 10-20g dose fresh weight. Its getting dry here again because the weather is hot. P.papuana could still pop up though.


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #24013757 - 01/16/17 04:08 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Your Bioassy reports are greatly appreciated. Thanks for sharing.









Your pictures are getting, and keep getting better. Nice job. I remember on your liberty cap allies thread, you were just starting to take pictures. You have come a long way.


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #24013797 - 01/16/17 05:36 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Hey thank you very much. I appreciate that.:cool: I just read this whole thread.:mushroom2: Still buzzing. Something I noticed when I first ate them was my stomach felt a bit nauseous. When they started coming on 20-30 min after it went away.

I've read of that happening to some people with psilocybin mushrooms. I've never felt that before even on big doses. I just chewed them a little bit and held them in my mouth as I drank warm water. The bitter taste went down with the water. After a minute or two I swallowed them with the water.

I think if I found a large quantity of these I would weigh them before dosage. The way they stain such a dark blue I don't think they'd be good for drying. Twenty grams fresh and see how it goes from there.:mushroom2::shocked:


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #24014605 - 01/16/17 12:42 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

"Hope your not busy for about a month!" 20 gms.......
At 1:00.

https://youtu.be/y_Ey3AucXFc


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Origyn]
    #24015187 - 01/16/17 04:11 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Good scene Origyn.:cool: Wonder what Great Dane.....? A classic. Up In Smoke and Nice Dreams were my favourites. Next Movie was pretty good too.

I wonder what 50g fresh of P.papuana would do? I was walking this morning and thinking its a bit of a relief that I've picked and eaten all but the fresh small specimens that I'd like to leave. They knock me around because they don't wear off like other mushrooms I've tried.

No body effect on the small doses I've had. In a moderate dose that might not be the case.

I can't even comment about P.papuana's character because I haven't had enough to find out.....yet.:laugh:


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #24016389 - 01/17/17 12:57 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)



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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #24016535 - 01/17/17 04:32 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Thanks for that. I'd better leave that info where it is. I checked it out when Inski proposed the name P.tasmaniana. I then acted like a know it all who knows nothing using that information to defend my stand that the mushrooms I'm finding are not in fact Psilocybe tasmaniana.

Inski pointed out Guzman's description plus other characteristics which suit my findings. Back then they were saying that P.subaeruginosa was nearly synonymous with P.tasmaniana.

You'd be better off asking Inski about that Juke Adro ID. I won't go into it because I'm not a mycologist. Inski was quite convincing when I asked him about it. What he said made loads of sense because my find looks nothing like P.subaeruginosa microscopically as well.

When Inski put the ID of P.tasmaniana on my mushrooms I requested him to post some of the relevent info on Liberty cap allies thread. Its there. I could post it here if you like to clear up some of this confusion.:smile:


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] * 2
    #24016549 - 01/17/17 04:51 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

The info from Inski about P.tasmaniana starts on page 26 Liberty cap allies fruiting in Australia in Summer. I don't want to quote it here because I acted like a jerk towards Inski back then via PM and posts on that thread.:blush:

I was just going with the general consensus of opinion like a sheep. Inski being a mycologist saw how good a match this species was with Guzman's description. He then patiently explained the similarities via PM.

I get annoyed with myself when I read how I carried on back then. Oh well perhaps I've learned something since then.:smile:


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #24016666 - 01/17/17 07:24 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #24037178 - 01/24/17 08:22 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Hey guys I have an ID request that would be much appreciated, I don't have the images of what I found but a descriptive writing is as much I can give for now. I suspect they may be papuana.

The shrooms we're found in a temperate rural area by a river bank, would have been a 40*c day, high humidity. Many other's in the vicinity I found were panaelous sp. Now To what I found:

Habitat: Temperate, High RH, growing in a coprophilous manor on cattle or horse dung by a river.

Physical Description: Slender stipes increasing in width the closer they got to the cap. The caps were a generally golden colour. Smaller specimens had a more bell/enclosed shaped cap as the older bigger ones started to come out to a more flat spherical shape. When picked they bruised to a dark purple colors on the stipe when handled, and the edges of the caps bruised the regular blue bruising color. The hymenium's gills were spread out a little more than most mushrooms are with a dark brown color. And the spore color was black. Forgive my terrible descriptive abilities but I've found them before and they were very close in description to liberty caps. I'll post the photo when I get a chance, thanks.


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin]
    #24037690 - 01/25/17 02:18 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

With black spores you probably have a Panaeolus species. Also dung habitat would point towards Panaeolus. P.papuana from all accounts so far in NSW was growing on red clayey soil as far as I know.

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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] * 1
    #24044451 - 01/27/17 04:24 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Heavy rain two days ago scoring about three inches. P.tasmaniana starting to flush again.
First image all same bunch.


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] * 1
    #24044462 - 01/27/17 04:27 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)



Next bunch of P.tasmaniana.


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
    #24044482 - 01/27/17 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Do they need high humidity as well mate?


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] * 1
    #24044491 - 01/27/17 04:34 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)



Not convinced these are P.alutacea. However they grow the same way off the horse dung. Unlike Protostropharia semiglobata that grows through horse dung. Its cloudy so they should mature. We'll see tomorrow.

Hey NBYK welcome.:smile: They fruit best under humid conditions. When its too dry after the rain they tend to abort in Summer.


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] * 1
    #24044714 - 01/27/17 05:33 PM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Hi Friend. looking good. On your next outing, could i talk you into stepping back a few feet for one of your shots? I am wanting to get a better perspective of the broad,long leafed plant in your  P.tasmaniana pictures. Is that a type of clumping grass? I see it often in your habitat shots? I like to go mentally hunting, in the bush. I enjoy and learn quite a bit from your info. I appreciate the lo-key non text book style you lay down the info. I don't do well in other types of learning environments. Just because somebody can't pronounce big scientific words, means nothing of there character. Were all the same and we all have stuff we can learn and share equally amongst all.Thank you.


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