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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 1
#23993849 - 01/08/17 09:21 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 1
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 1
#23994093 - 01/08/17 11:33 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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I went back and found a mushroom growing out of the dirt in the log dump. I pulled it thinking it wasn't the same species to look at the gills. Now I'm not so sure. Its cap shape and colour looks identical to some P.papuana I found last year.
This specimen was fruiting about 10 feet away from where a couple of bunches fruited last year. It is actually in the runoff zone where water would have ran from their spore deposits on the ground.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23994112 - 01/08/17 11:42 PM (7 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23994323 - 01/09/17 02:48 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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These are growing about 2 feet away from where the biggest patch of P.papuana fruited last year near a log dump. Gills look Psilocybe. They stain black with a hint of blue on the stem where they were joined to one another at the base over the space of one hour.
Wow those ones look very interesting!
Have you done an ID request for both finds?
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These ones look like a Panaeolus Sp. Of some sort...
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23994366 - 01/09/17 03:54 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Last pic. They are not a Panaeolus species. The gills are the wrong colour. The cap margin is inrolled.They are not Deconica or Hypholoma. They stain dark black blue. The gills are the same as the Psilocybe species I found here last May. Anyway I'll probably find more when it rains again.
They don't come up straight after the rain. When it starts drying out they pop up. Same thing last May. Being Summer they dry out fast.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23994404 - 01/09/17 05:12 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Message me your ID requests if you do them
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23995511 - 01/09/17 03:18 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Psilocybe papuana confirmed the best way I know. Unless there is DNA sequencing of P.papuana and these which I doubt. Time will tell. I guess 1500 reasons why there isn't any sequencing done on them as yet.
See you all again when something interesting pops up.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23995555 - 01/09/17 03:37 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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nice find
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23996202 - 01/09/17 06:45 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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36,000 tested and documented out of an estimated 135,000 mushroom species in Australia... That's probably why hah
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23996494 - 01/09/17 08:27 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Thanks NothingsChanged. The season starts early in the year for this species.
Interesting fact Fractal but the 1500 reasons don't concern you. If it doesn't get sequenced I'll send some specimens off to alvalab.es. Pablo Alvarado said he'll sequence them if nothing gets done.
All the best.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23997013 - 01/09/17 11:56 PM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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Since Australia has a lack of Mycology field agents... haha
I think a may have found a calling card for bioscience degree direction. XD
Then again... Gynaecology sounds good too.
Hope it does too, The sooner the mush better!
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23997044 - 01/10/17 12:09 AM (7 years, 21 days ago) |
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My enigmatic statement about reasons Fractal would make perfect sense to you if you read the first couple of pages of this thread. If not read Liberty cap allies fruiting in Australia in Summer by Heyowana.
The three species this thread is about are not something you can help me with concerning an ID. Read your three previous posts. If that isn't reason enough to doubt your knowledge then actually read the Liberty cap allies thread.
Inski, Alan Rockefeller, TimmiT and Jan Borovicka have studied these species. You post an ID in the ID forum so what? What reference are TI's on this forum going to use to make an ID?
I don't want to have to keep repeating myself. I'd rather post pics. If someone who is qualified to make a comment does then that would be wonderful.
I think your pics are great on the NSW 2017 thread. Lets keep it in perspective. My reason for making this thread was to have them separated from P.cubensis, Copelandia cyanescens, P.subaeruginosa and Pan.cinctulus.
It saves all the fuss of explaining each time what these mushrooms this thread is about are. I also am having trouble seeing the relevance of your last post here. Perhaps you ought to post your comments elsewhere from now on..
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23997228 - 01/10/17 03:06 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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It seems you were just finding these. Time fly's.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23997249 - 01/10/17 03:20 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I'm sincerely sorry for my lack of thought before, As you would not post pictures of something else in this thread.
Just how you mentioned descriptions of the finds spun me out until now...
Keep up the good work on the front line!
Always like to see your Fungi Porn.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23997302 - 01/10/17 04:30 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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You are right NothingsChanged. Scares me a bit as I watch the years go by.
Fractal I don't want to sound like a control freak. I was just starting to wonder why? Yes I am here to learn. I know very little about mycology. I have respect for the mycologists who have helped me.
I write down my observations in the sequence they occur to me. Its all pictures and images in my mind. Then the words get put with it. That's where I put foot in mouth often I think. My sentences are often too long and hard to read in a flowing way.
I have posted pictures of something that wasn't a Psilocybe species in this thread before as we both know. So I'm being too hard on you then. Eating that species was foolish on my part.
The ones I just found smelled, tasted and effected me like P.papuana. Guess that's why I got all authoritarian about the ID. It was a micro dose on an empty stomach first thing this morning.
Now they have euphoria like P.tasmaniana. That's the only difference I could see at micro dose level. Plus they were stronger but my tolerance is very low at the moment.
Anyway thank you very much for your last post. You write a few lines and its all cleared up for me now.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23997323 - 01/10/17 04:56 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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To some degree that odd species experience you had was on my mind and was just wondering if it was a different species or just a differential in phenotypical appearances.
All good mate, I know I forget to be more specific! Often with things like this, That I have little experience or no knowledge on.
Wow these "puppies" sound really stronge!
Then again your the one with the hands on experience hehe.
Hope you get a decent flush of them again soon!!!
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23997351 - 01/10/17 05:40 AM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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I wish for that decent flush. I may be moralistic about my addiction to mushrooms- lately because I always thought people can't be addicted to them. With this species never having had a decent dose I 'd eat any quantity just to know what they are like in big doses.
Last season where they are growing at the log dump was the only place I've found them. I checked other log dumps to no avail. They seem to have an affinity for soil thats been infused with sawdust.
Inski made a comment about sand in my photos. At the time I was thinking no, its mudstone.
After that I went back and had a look where I'd been taking pics and there was saw dust every where. Old too. Its still there. I would have thought it would have broken down. The soil is very acidic around here everywhere.
Sawdust makes acidic soil I think when its added. So it would be interesting to take a PH test kit to the spot where the P.papuana are fruiting and test the soil.
I thought the kit was broken somehow when the PH was 4.5 where I hadn't improved the soil where I live. Probably more acidic out where the mushrooms are growing at the log dump.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23998293 - 01/10/17 01:46 PM (7 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yeah reading about you having a heroic sized dose would be interesting.
Hmm I thought that highly concentrated Alkaloid leaf litter took a lot longer to decompose then acidic litter.
What trees are around that spot?
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