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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 1
#23961369 - 12/27/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Few more. Image 1,3 and 4 same mushrooms.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23961886 - 12/28/16 04:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hahah bloody slugs!!!
Pretty cool stuff man! I'm amazed that NSW is potentially the only state that can/may be fruitful all year round!
So happy to have found Pan Cyans!
Will be checking wisemans area often very soon!
Moving back to the big smoke but will be back up at the farm after knowing of a storm to past.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe] 1
#23977987 - 01/03/17 04:56 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Queensland, there are actives all year around in cow pastures. NSW in Sydney I'd like to change the ID of meltdown P.cyanescens to P.cyanofibrillosa. After looking at threads about them they match that species more. The stems always were flecked with dark blue on little raised portions.
Kind of made them look like a woody tree trunk stained with dark blue. The cap also was never undulating as P.cyanescens can be. The cap was relatively small compared to the thickness of the stem. Was usually caramel coloured. Cap would detach very easily from the stem.
They were coming from a garden with Rhododendrons and Azaleas. Rhododendron Psilocybe is supposedly P.cyanofibrillosa. I have read that P.cyanescens can also frequent Rhododendron gardens.
Sydney's latitude would fit P.cyanofibrillosa better than P.cyanescens I think. P.cyanescens prefers more temperate latitudes. I'm writing this to add the name change to my list of NSW mushrooms.
So Sydney and Blue mountains region- P.subaeruginosa, P.cyanofibrillosa and P.pelliculosa plus another Liberty cap type mushroom in the pine forests that is as strong as hell. Don't know what they were.
Then P.cubensis, Panaeolus cinctulus and Copelandia cyanescens in cow paddocks.
Plus P.alutacea, P.tasmaniana and P.papuana up here. So about 10 active species for me in NSW. I could include P.semilanceata if the Qld ones I unintentionally introduced to Dalmorton were Liberty caps. I'm inclined to think they were because of the way they would kill off couch grass from fruiting in it.
Possibly 11 species then. I am not trying to stroke my ego. I want one thing. That is for people to be aware who live in this country that there is a diverse group of active mushrooms to go foraging for. Variety is the spice of life.
I'll crawl back under my rock now.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23978009 - 01/03/17 05:37 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Hahahah, Nah man shake that rock with pride!
I started a 2017 seasonal actives thread for the purpose of other learning the well known ones.
Which I stated there are six NSW Species, But after reading your consistent enthusiasm on these others... I really hope you can get the list changed and over time perhaps perfected with information to help highlight where and when they are most likely to be found.
Keep up the outstanding work mate!
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe] 1
#23979142 - 01/03/17 03:27 PM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Awesome thread Heyowana, I haven't checked out the mushroom hunting forums for a while so this is the first time I've seen your second thread. I had a read through and it's just as good as the last one.
I think it's great that you've spent so much time documenting and writing about these mushrooms (and sharing them with us no less!) I can picture these threads serving as great references for people years down the line
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Matai]
#23979317 - 01/03/17 04:37 PM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Spread the love.... & many spores too...
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23980365 - 01/04/17 12:16 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Thanks Fractaliopsybe and Matal. I'm beginning to understand what Inski meant when he said conditions in NZ haven't been right lately to find P.alutacea. The rain just isn't enough anymore for them to fruit here in my part of the state. I'm finding less specimens each time it rains. Also Summer sun dries them out very fast, but they are struggling.
I spent an hour or two looking at horse manure next door yesterday. Only found one and it was microscopic in size. I don't know how much manure I've dumped in my place but there isn't a sign of one P.alutacea fruiting on that manure. Even manure that had them all over it in Autumn last year.
Looks like we really need those East coast lows that drop a heap of rain to get their fruiting cycle started again.
I have to go to Sydney this year. I'm going to try and time it to look for one of two species I've mentioned. Either May to look for P.cyanofibrillosa. Or March/April to look for P.pelliculosa up the Blue Mountains.
Think May is more interesting for me. They'd only fruit where I lived for one month. The P.subaeruginosa would go right into the cold and into August sometimes. Last time I looked down there another Akita I owned ate another dog. That's going back to the late 1990's. Dogs can be a pain in the ass to take anywhere.
They put a highway through there and demolished all the houses. I remember seeing P.subaeruginosa all through that creek system in the Wandering Jew. That's the challenge to find the others. They grew from that Rhododendron garden down to the creek and only along it a bit.
SInce the house was demolished I'll need to find another like that one or just hope they are still in the area. They don't look much like P.subaeruginosa. Even as a novice back in 1981 I recognised that. Also their effects aren't like any other mushroom I've taken so sub hunters must not find them.
Either because they are rare or they look more like a Boletus at first glance. Their stems are that thick.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23980415 - 01/04/17 01:04 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23980431 - 01/04/17 01:19 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Its fuckn crazy different now with development and people. Roads tunnels and cranes. You may struggle to recognize some places. Eagerly awaiting your endeavors.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bunya]
#23980528 - 01/04/17 02:53 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Heyouwana let us know when and if you do come to Sydney for winter! Keen to meet and Hunt with ya!
I found P.Subs in spring but I'll only "show" you where.. 
Also keen to meet you out at the blue mountains or thy "wise men" area too.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bunya] 1
#23980535 - 01/04/17 02:58 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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I hate Sydney but I must go. Maybe the mountains would be better. I need to look before any snowfall up there. Some years they get it in May. More species to hunt though. Much bigger area to look. There is also Wentworth falls. Fellow there found black Liberty cap like species. After seeing P.papuana it could have the same ID.
Then there's P.pelliculosa out Oberon way. I have found them earlier in the year than any subs there. Places where you get cool breezes in the pineforest coming up from the wet valleys.
Every cool weather active mushroom hunter knows that breeze. It shows the way to where they grow. Once I'd find that breeze if it was wet enough, where it lurked the P.pelliculosa would fruit. Warmer the weather the more shaded the location.
Plus the other unknown Liberty cap looking species. They were small and delicate. Their gills looked more yellow brown with purple coming through. They looked like P.pelliculosa whereas the ones I am calling P.pelliculosa were more solid looking generally. Still with liberty cap type morphology.
I only found the unknown ones once. I talked about them on the other thread. They smelled sweet like almost lemon like at the gills. Stem was blue. Both these types stain strong blue on the stem and the middle of the cap where the umbo is.
Whatever they are I'd like to track them down. Perhaps because they are like liberty cap allies in looks I should concentrate on them instead of the Sydney P.cyanofibrillosa look alikes. That way I just have to catch the train to Sydney then return to the mountains where my home base will be.
Thanks Bunya. Sydney was too much for me years ago. Hi NothingsChanged. I'm sick of the lack of actives at the moment. So I'm going down that jewelled cactus road. again and again. Think psilocybin is over rated slightly. They are fun to find though,
I was discussing this with my brother who doesn't take hallucinogens. I was just saying that I have spent most of my life with psilocybin then along comes cactus and wow. I tried San pedro in the 1980's and had minimal effect off it. I thought it was over rated. How wrong I was.
Hey thanks Fractaliopsybe. Would be interesting to catch up with you I'm sure.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23980575 - 01/04/17 04:05 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Yeah thanks to you man, I know what to look out for when hunting in general (& what not to do...)
After hearing how many different species there are in Australia I'll definitely be on the look out for anything that when pinched, Turns blue.. 
I love to take pix of species I've never seen before, So hopefully I may find something new! ------- Hah come up here man! The farm is going off at the moment, I'm trying to scout as much as I can before I leave for Sydney next week.
By the looks of things I may get a flush like last seasons cubes (2.5kg/230gm)+ this time I know Pan Cyans too! The sky guy is being very nice to me and I hope I can dry it all in time! Hah
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23980590 - 01/04/17 05:06 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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You ought to give those Pan cyans a go fresh. Out in the fields with mother nature. I found they lose a lot of potency dried. Also they aren't a good mushroom to trip on in busy places. It can get a bit PAN icky. Easier to handle alone. Some of the stories people have told me over the years about tripping with friends on meanies.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23980611 - 01/04/17 05:38 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Hey awsome find man do you think far north Victoria would possibly have any simular shrooms ? Regarding Rhododendrons theres some great spots up in the mountains here in melb would I need to wait till autum to hunt for cyans ?
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: ChongBerry]
#23980629 - 01/04/17 05:57 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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If they are better than Cubes weight for dried weight then I don't mind...
But I am saving some for my Hunting buddy as we wanna try them together.
Pretty keen to eat fresh Cubensis though! Fuckers will be in an abundance in the next few days.
Also may make 3 way blended caps with them and P.Subs... & see how that goes hahaha -------- Chongberry; I think mid summer would be the best bet for Cyans as there have been recent finds on the NSW southern coastal areas...
 Happy Hunting man!
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: ChongBerry]
#23980634 - 01/04/17 06:05 AM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Hey ChongBerry. The meltdown mushrooms that I think were P.cyanofibrillosa would start fruiting beginning of May in Sydney when it rained. They would fruit into June and then stop when the subs were starting to get going strongly.
Worth a go for you to have a look for them. Good luck.
Fractaliopsybe if you haven't dosed heavy on meanies yet that old REM song called STAND is worth listening too. Meanies test the emotions at higher doses.
How changing the direction you are looking can make the difference between heaven and hell always intrigued me and others. If someone would ask Can you die on these? That signalled the time to stand and go for a walk with them.
They would be amazed how bad feelings would come and go as they changed direction on their walk.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23981675 - 01/04/17 02:59 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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What would you say a heavy dose would be for dried weight?? I generally do a trial dose of 1gm dried to compare how they come on.
Had 3-4gms of Cubes on NYE and didn't visually Trip that much but had so much energy and danced for 2-3 hrs straight.
Also after having a heroic dose at a Psytrance gig in Sydney, I hope their not too different from P.Subs in strength. Even if I did overdose on them... I know I'd still have a great time HA!
But I am very interested in The various effects of different Species, Alike how Cannabis has it's different strains and effects.
How you mentioned that changing directions of walking sounds familiar to Synaesthesia on LSD.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23981727 - 01/04/17 03:28 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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If you ever take too many mushrooms, walk between rooms or change environments. Whatever negative thought loops you have in your head should/might be stymied by a threshold event. Either that or nice music in a dark room alone, comfortable and warm/dry. My last bad trip I was on the coast and found a spot, buried myself in pine needles, and left 6 hours later good as new. I guess I had pissed myself some point in there so I changed in the restrooms and bounced.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Adden]
#23982172 - 01/04/17 06:25 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Meanies are a lot stronger than goldtops fresh. Dried the going can get heavy for some people on 4g. I used to take 4-7g dried because no matter how I dried them they would lose potency.
I am only 5 foot eight and weigh about 10 stone I think. Haven't weighed myself in ages. Most people I know who have tripped on meanies including myself have experienced ego death on them.
However I don't know of anyone who has on dried specimens. That's their problem. Fresh getting up to 40-50 specimens and you can have one hell of a trip including ego death at some point. I have taken more than a hundred over a day and find tolerance builds up fast.
I used to dose over 4 days. First day I'd take 20-30 for a lighter trip. Next day I would blast myself by eating them until things would go 2D. Might only be 40 or so specimens. Then at 20mins I wouldn't be able to chew them. So I'd go outside and as the effect started getting stronger I'd see bunches of them and would eat them a bunch at a time.
After that day I'd light dose for the next 2 days because I have found mushrooms a good way to get over the hangover feeling a heavy dose can produce.
Good advice Adden. That thought loop of repetitive doom can be so negative. It's funny how something like changing rooms, going outside or even writing on a piece of paper can change the ambiance of a trip.
You might be disappointed Fractaliopsybe if you take less than 4g dried. Depends what you want out of the trip and your tolerance to psilocybin.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23982230 - 01/04/17 06:46 PM (7 years, 26 days ago) |
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Around these parts. People believe benadryl will bring you back down to earth if you go to high. I wouldn't no. I like to get that out of it. Lighter doses just make me antsy and slightly annoyed felling. The dramatic negative/positive mood swings have never been an issue for me with Psilo cyan or Azure. On Libs and Cubes, That feeling of the trip derailing any moment, is always looming in my head.
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