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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23712227 - 10/06/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks NothingsChanged. Guess I'm a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. I don't fit in around here. All the best. I'll leave now because I can see my attitude can and will be a bad influence on new mushroom hunters out there.
If I find anything new I'll post it on Facebook. In fact it will be the only thing I'll post on Facebook. Thanks for your support but I'll leave now. I've tried Shroomery, Mycotopia and Shaman Australis. My internet mushroom career is over now and I'd like to fade into obscurity. Well to Tai chi away until the end.
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Bunya


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23712604 - 10/06/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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 I enjoy your posts. Keep em comming.
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bunya]
#23717066 - 10/07/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Bunya. I'm just paranoid about writing things that aren't politically correct on these forums. I don't care less until I write it and then I start to worry. For example the mushrooms that Inski ID as Deconica.
I wrote about them because of their effect. Then to have people say that they are poisonous or that they have a placebo effect needs an explanation I believe.
I tried them. They didn't. Their knowledge is based on what? Not on their understanding of that species. I wanted to leave this alone.
Inski they don't have a placebo effect. Sure its a guess on your part and I understand this. If it wasn't for you I wouldn't have a clue as to their identity.
NothingsChanged why will me eating them at half dosage make you miss me? Please explain what appears like an enigmatic statement to me. Thanks for your support.
Knarkkorven I appreciate your input. I always have because it helps me understand more.
I'll try and make this a photo thread of P.tasmaniana, alutacea and papuana. This is the third time I've said this I think. However I digress into fields that are totally unrelated. So anyone who wishes to contribute please bear this in mind. Heyowana is out of control and needs supervision.
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Bunya


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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23717440 - 10/07/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You cant make all the people happy all the time. But if you make some happy and your happy Fuc em. I imagine it would be quite difficult to get a chem analysis of them so it your opinion vs others opinion till someone gets them analyzed. Keep up the hunt and shareing the thoughts and great pics.
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bunya]
#23717528 - 10/07/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Bunya. My dilemma is this. Deconica equals non hallucinogenic Psilocybe species. Hence the discussion on my part. No examples of poisonous Deconica exist so far but I could be wrong. So either Inski has ID a Psilocybe species as Deconica or it's something else.
Poisonous Psilocybe species people talk about. So since the spores are similar in shape to Cordiosporae maybe I should be checking out poisonous Psilocybe species to find out what else they can contain. I know nothing about them. Anyone know what drug a poisonous Psilocybe species can contain alongside psilocybin????
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23717968 - 10/07/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or in a nutshell I could say. They get me out of it. First 4 hrs psilocybin effects. Spores almost identical to Deconica species that Inski found. Spore shape very similar to section Cordiosporae.
They bruise black. Maybe blue/black on some. I then went back to my first P.papuana find on "liberty cap allies" thread. Stem was bruising the same colour. Cap was the same shape and colour. Difference was the cap showed blue bruising.
I have known people that think a P.cubensis specimen that doesn't turn blue is something else. I have also proven them wrong by eating those specimens. I suggest keeping an open mind is just as difficult for other people as it is for me.
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NothingsChanged
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23718339 - 10/08/16 01:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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all i meant was if you were gone i would miss you. nothing more nothing less. Your experiments are real life knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23719570 - 10/08/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No problem Heyowana, all I observed was that the spores are like some Deconica species, if that is the case then they would not be active.
The spores here are similar to those species in Psilocybe sect. Neocaledonicae, I believe almost all of those species are now placed in Deconica.
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: inski]
#23783998 - 10/29/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The gills look wrong for a Psilocybe species to me. That's why I was surprised when you said Deconica Inski. Sporeprint looks about right though. They tasted really funky for a Psilocybe mushroom.That's one reason I thought they may be poisonous, along with the weird effects.
Psilocybe sect. Neocaledonicae thanks for that info I'll check it out.
I'm a bit too gutless to try them again NothingsChanged. I'd rather find ones like the species in your thread. So I'll keep looking and thanks for your well wishes.
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23784030 - 10/29/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm thinking Hypholoma species. They look more like them than Psilocybe or Deconica. Even the sporeprint with the yellow margin around it doesn't look right for those two genera.
I said Hypholoma before and they are as common as dirt around here after rain. They could also produce a strange poison like effect with some species in that genus.
So back to Psilocybe species. I hope.
Edited by Heyowana (10/29/16 10:16 PM)
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NothingsChanged
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23790248 - 11/01/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Glad your still around. Your posts are great.
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NobodyYouKnow
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23790380 - 11/01/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NobodyYouKnow]
#23793536 - 11/02/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you very much NothingsChanged and NBYK. Not getting much rain here so there are no mushrooms around now.
Those Liberty cap lookalikes you found NothingsChanged look so interesting.
Guess SA has dried up for mushrooms too NBYK?
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NobodyYouKnow
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23793556 - 11/02/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah..... outside.... for now.
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Fractaliopsybe
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23808591 - 11/07/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Summer is here

what's the averages for Pan Cyans on mid north coast if you know? (New England Nation park) thought they would have been around by now but P. Cubes are just about to be in my Scopes ---------------minimal inactives around too*
Have you guys seen any thing around?
see ya round
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe] 1
#23808612 - 11/07/16 05:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Check out cow paddocks in the low lands for Copelandia cyanescens. It's too dry now but after some storm rain they'll be popping up. They love hot days and nights. Cold nights are tolerated better by P.cubensis than Copelandia cyanescens.
So if you can see the ocean from the tops of the hills or aren't too elevated above the creeks and rivers, late November after storms and onwards until late March there should be plenty around. They grow thick in the right country on the mid North coast. The season lasts longer and starts earlier in the lowlands provided there's enough rain.
Copelandia cyanescens loves that hot humid weather after storms and rain we get in January - April on the east coast of NSW.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23809275 - 11/07/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fractaliopsybe
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: catnip40]
#23823692 - 11/11/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heyouwanna come to my journal for summer discussion
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Bagels
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bunya]
#23901244 - 12/06/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are your mushrooms still fruiting Heyowanna? I have been looking in horse poo for P. alutacea but I have had no luck. It would be good to see some more of your pics
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Heyowana
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bagels]
#23901366 - 12/06/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey Bagels It's been really dry here for the last two months. Yesterday I went next door and found a little P.alutacea. This was after 50mm the day before. Get home and upload the photos and they were all blurry.
P.tasmaniana should start fruiting soon because the spot where they were is wet enough now.
I hope P.papuana fruits soon too. The spot where I found them looked wet enough when I went there today.
I'll go for a walk next door now and see if I can get some clear photos of P.alutacea. Guess its pretty dry mushroom wise where you live now?
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