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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23656223 - 09/18/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi Fractaliopsybe. Please elucidate about the other key features these mushrooms have that make them not of the Psilocybe genera.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23656308 - 09/18/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree that they look a bit wrong for a Psilocybe species. I know so little so my opinion is almost worthless on taxonomy. Here's some more images of spore prints. The flash just whites it out today so they are without the flash.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23656321 - 09/18/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Be careful my friend.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23656339 - 09/18/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The prints look dark brown with a bit of purple in it. I'll get some more later on today and have another go at printing them overnight. Maybe leave them for 24hrs to get a better print.
I'll take some more pics of them and their habitat as well.
I'd like to know what is in them if it isn't psilocybin. There was never any nausea but I've never been nauseous on Psilocybe species. P.cubensis comes the closest with me. It's more that they taste unpalatable and I should not be eating them.
I agree NBYK. They are a bit strong from my experience with mushrooms. Maybe they contain something else?
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23656346 - 09/18/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just don't want you to discover a new kind of lethal mushroom.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NobodyYouKnow]
#23656385 - 09/18/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are really cool looking!
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NobodyYouKnow] 1
#23656387 - 09/18/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe they are a Hypholoma species. Australia has so many. Some of them stain weird colours. RIP- Heyowana he shall be remembered for discovering this new species. Pity he isn't here. I can imagine that scenario very well NBYK.
A meditation group I used to go to were really strict about not taking any recreational drugs. Long story short I had an altercation with one of the members who was staying at my place. He asked for it. He stayed there rent free. Did nothing and used to steal all my home grown.
After he gets out of hospital he spills his guts about what I do. Grow dope and hunt for magic mushrooms. He tells the people in the group about this. So the guy in charge said I would kill myself one day eating the wrong mushrooms.
That was years ago. It haunts me to this day. I tried to help that guy. When I got really shitty with him he tried to strangle me. He tried to kill me so I fought back.
I wasn't impressed with that group after that. La Gringa says that saying things like that about people. Wishing them dead or ill is a death curse. So I guess I'm waiting for it to be fulfilled.
On a lighter note thanks maynardjameskeenan.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 1
#23657572 - 09/19/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I picked more today. They were only little ones coming up where I found the big dried out specimens the other day. I've been seeing these little mushrooms everywhere I then realised. Where ever there is clay with a layer of leaves on top they grow after the rain has washed water through.
They stain black. Not blue/black as I thought or more likely wished for. I don't think they contain psilocybin. They may contain a deliriant. Perhaps they contain traces of muscarine.
I am not going to eat them again.
Some more pics of these non Psilocybes.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23657582 - 09/19/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 1
#23657591 - 09/19/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Image 2 my puppy dog resting at habitat.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana] 1
#23657601 - 09/19/16 02:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I'll stick to the three species this thread is about. If I do find something different I'll post it separately in the ID forum. There I won't be able to carry on with all my baggage.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23657609 - 09/19/16 02:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't care about your baggage, I care about your life. Could those non ps ones you found be Stropharia Semiglobata? Like Bob said in the SA thread?
This post has the pics I thought were aluteaca....

That's why I haven't collected any, not 100% sure myself unless I bring glasses and break open kangaroo poo.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NobodyYouKnow]
#23657638 - 09/19/16 02:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Their mycelium is attached to the clay on the ones I found. Well there you go about those P.alutacea I thought you'd found. Best thing if you are in doubt is pick them and put them in a sealed container for a couple of hours. Then if they are P.alutacea they will go blue on the stem where there is damage or down the base.
Unless you are like me and think black is blue. I guess it shows where my passions are. I need to be more careful. My brother has been telling me this all my adult life. I just think people who aren't careless are boring. Especially when they say 'I told you so.'
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Heyowana]
#23657654 - 09/19/16 03:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't worry, you'll grow more boring with age. 
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NobodyYouKnow]
#23657673 - 09/19/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice to see(read)you Heyowana.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NobodyYouKnow]
#23657679 - 09/19/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ahh we all have baggage. Thats why we look for answers with mushys Age does not get borring just wiser from experience. Without risk there is no experience or learning. I rember the hard lessons and learn more than the soft ones that require repetition. Still intrested in an id on you finding. Keep up the good work and prove the nay sayers wrong. You create your destiny not some rightous judgemental yoga teacher. Your dog looks relaxed. Wish mine would fkn calm down. But then i dont. Looking forward to more pics
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bunya]
#23657715 - 09/19/16 04:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's the thing NBYK I'm feeling so darn good, This is a worry. No introspection like after a psilocybin trip. Just I get these waves of euphoria like I'm on a happy pill. I wake up this morning and go on my morning walk up a hill. I'm just watching the ground go by like its someone else doing the walking.
I'm walking around without a care in the world. I am even more absent minded than usual but I laugh about it like it's a joke. Eating dinner I don't even worry about it now. I just eat a bit of fruit now and again. I don't even care about that like what's it matter. It's all food.
This is why I don't believe I've had a psilocybin trip. That first little mushroom I found pages back I ate the next morning. In the afternoon I'm looking at the trees that look like they are covered in crystals in the afternoon and everything seems so magical.Especially my breath. I was thinking this has to be the strongest mushroom on the planet.
So when I ate 13g of them that evening perhaps that was overdoing it for that kind of drug whatever it is.
Good to see you too NothingsChanged
That one is relaxed Bunya unless another strange dog shows up. Then he becomes a typical ass hole Akita. He's getting old now but the fire is still there as I found out about a month ago with two strange dogs.
My other dog is hyper. He's actually more easy going with other dogs which is good.
I would be very interested to find out what's inside those mushrooms like with a lab analysis. Safer probably than me eating them just to get the good after effects.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Bunya]
#23657964 - 09/19/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Underlined what also intrigues me & Overlines what are what I would like to know too.
I've seen a lot of look a likes(LALs) to those while hunting in the hills.. Looking for any pix, But not many of those inactive Phenotypes.. + LALs
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Heyowana said: Hi Fractaliopsybe. Please elucidate about the other key features these mushrooms have that make them not of the Psilocybe genera. Heyowana said: I agree that they look a bit wrong for a Psilocybe species. I know so little so my opinion is almost worthless on taxonomy. Here's some more images of spore prints.--
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Heyowana said: The prints look dark brown with a bit of purple in it. -- I'd like to know what is in them if it isn't psilocybin. There was never any nausea but I've never been nauseous on Psilocybe species. P.cubensis comes the closest with me. It's more that they taste unpalatable and I should not be eating them. ("F: If not pleasant to taste. & unlike other*") I agree NBYK. They are a bit strong from my experience with mushrooms. Maybe they contain something else?:)
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Seen a few LALs to this Sp. with same descriptions as you have mentioned, But Due to Hunting for obvious signs of Content. Mainly only with P. Subs & P. Cubes. Though for these LAL's The Psilocybe Subaeruginosa Phenotypes made me check a lot of specimens out. Should have taken more pix.. but I was more concerned for photographing Subs before..
(Will be doing Hunting for any mushroom species as the years go by to help with Phenotype changes with in a genes potential to habitat.*Inactives) Anything like that, I tent not to even Touch(Brown-black ink-like spore/gills & orange to brown+redness of stem to cap.
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Heyowana said: That's the thing NBYK I'm feeling so darn good, This is a worry. No introspection like after a psilocybin trip. Just I get these waves of euphoria like I'm on a happy pill. I wake up this morning and go on my morning walk up a hill. I'm just watching the ground go by like its someone else doing the walking.
I'm walking around without a care in the world. I am even more absent minded than usual but I laugh about it like it's a joke. Eating dinner I don't even worry about it now. I just eat a bit of fruit now and again. I don't even care about that like what's it matter. It's all food.
This is why I don't believe I've had a psilocybin trip. That first little mushroom I found pages back I ate the next morning. In the afternoon I'm looking at the trees that look like they are covered in crystals in the afternoon and everything seems so magical.Especially my breath. I was thinking this has to be the strongest mushroom on the planet.
So when I ate 13g of them that evening perhaps that was overdoing it for that kind of drug whatever it is. -- I would be very interested to find out what's inside those mushrooms like with a lab analysis. Safer probably than me eating them just to get the good after effects.
Maybe this is something worth the time of extracting out of this little guy So your experience with this event could spark something cool.. Or YOU are lucky, That you didn't eat more..(?) Hence interest of contents, Could be beneficial to medical science or recreational use...? IMO they don't quite look like Galerina species or Stropharia genomes as they are generally not clay habitat fit..(?) Here are some link examples of Links I found on google* This *Inactive LAL always annoys me when hunting P.Subs.--> --------------- ""Bunya said: Ahh we all have baggage. Thats why we look for answers with mushys Age does not get borring just wiser from experience. Without risk there is no experience or learning. I rember the hard lessons and learn more than the soft ones that require repetition. Still intrested in an id on you finding. Keep up the good work and prove the nay sayers wrong. You create your destiny not some rightous judgemental yoga teacher. --Looking forward to more pics"" --------------------------------
& Well said at that.
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: Fractaliopsybe] 1
#23658432 - 09/19/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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those resemble Conocybe filaris minus the ring? Poison!
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Re: New South Wales P.tasmaniana, P.alutacea and P.papuana thread. [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23659615 - 09/19/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks Fractaliopsybe for all the info. I left some prints overnight and one came out quite good. I'll post it soon. Yes it might be luck. I've had my heart racing on psilocybin trips before. On these it seemed more intense. The visions didn't seem like distortions as with psilocybin but more hallucinations fuelled by paranoia later on.
For the first 4 hrs I really thought I was tripping on psilocybin mushrooms. The duration is way too long. Also the next day after feeling hot all night I woke up with my hand on my heart. My rib was sore. It wasn't before I went to bed. I meditated and felt really good like too good. When doing taichi I felt shakey for a couple of sets then I felt really good and out of it like on a psychedelic.
My breathing felt a bit weird that night when I was tripping. I kept deep breathing like I couldn't get enough air. The next day I was deep breathing and it felt magical. That's the thing there was no nausea. My head has felt light and I keep feeling like endorphines going from my balls up to the top of my head. That can happen to me on good dope and mushrooms that contain psilocybin.
However it was still happening last night which is 48 plus hours after I took them. When I look at the sporeprints they look more dark brown with a bit of black or some other colour in there.
Conocybe is a really mixed genus that's for sure NothingsChanged. Some species are poisonous and a few contain psilocybin.
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